Russia, Ottoman & the Balkan in a Napoleon victory

Assuming that Napoleon was less ambitious than OTL and soon reached a negotiated peace with Britain and Russia. France still controled Western Europe (including Italian peninsula and the Confederation of the Rhine) and also had Austria and Spain as close allies. Eastern Europe, except the Duchy of Warsaw, remained within Russian sphere of influence. What would Russia do with the Ottomans if France gave them a free hand? I can think of two courses of action:

1/ They liberated the Balkan, setting up states based on ethnicity, then gave Constantinoples to an enlarged Greece with a Romanov on the throne.

2/ They annexed everything on the Balkan on the way to Constantinoples and Salonika to establish a land connection.

Which of these two would be the most practical move for Russia? Also would they keep a rump Ottoman state (with its Arabian possessions intact) as protectorate or completely dismember the empire?
 
I always preferred the idea that they would decided to partition the ottoman Empire

Russia:maldova (inadition to beseribia) and Armenia
Austrea:waliacia and Bosnia
France egipt and Syria up to modern day turky + Cyprus as a navel base
Briton: Mesopotamia + Cyprus as a navel base (ether or depends on how powerful britain is after the Napoleonic wars but considering how doggedly the foute in the actual np wars they would have to be purity week to even accept a Napoleonic France in control of western Europe )
Kurdistan as a buffer zone between Russia France and Briton
Greece and Albania as french satellite kingdoms
Serbia and Montenegro as satellite kingdoms of Austria
And Bulgaria and wates left of turkey as satellite kingdoms for Russia
Edit: and the strates (including costandinopal) is controlled but a international body made up of all the major powers to make sure no won has to much power over saed strates (im looking at you russia)
Man, I have thout way to much about this for a Napoleon victory time line I'm never going to white because my trable spelling.
 
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Assuming that Napoleon was less ambitious than OTL and soon reached a negotiated peace with Britain and Russia. France still controled Western Europe (including Italian peninsula and the Confederation of the Rhine) and also had Austria and Spain as close allies. Eastern Europe, except the Duchy of Warsaw, remained within Russian sphere of influence. What would Russia do with the Ottomans if France gave them a free hand? I can think of two courses of action:

1/ They liberated the Balkan, setting up states based on ethnicity, then gave Constantinoples to an enlarged Greece with a Romanov on the throne.

2/ They annexed everything on the Balkan on the way to Constantinoples and Salonika to establish a land connection.

Which of these two would be the most practical move for Russia? Also would they keep a rump Ottoman state (with its Arabian possessions intact) as protectorate or completely dismember the empire?

Neither, as Russia is hardly an unstoppable juggernaught or the Ottomans merely a 'Sick Man' in the early 1800's, Great Britain is still a Great Power and would certainly align behind the Sultan as an ally on the Continent, and the French sphere has no reason to support such a major power-boost on the part of the Russia (Especially Austria, who hardly coulden't feel threatened as Russia expands its influence across her southern border and shifts the balance of strength away from Paris and towards Moscow in any potential conflict... in which they would be taking the brunt of the damage of any aggression or subversion coming out of Russia). France and Russia may have a negotiated peace, but they have naturally conflicting interests and any statesman with a long-term vision would see that what's good for the other isen't nessicerily good for themselves.

The two aren't allies, and any alliance or co-operation between the two is unlikely to be lasting.
 
The two aren't allies, and any alliance or co-operation between the two is unlikely to be lasting.

Also very true but I can see them do another polish partition to keep the balance of power in the rigon if the ottoman do fall for whatever reason later on in the 19th century.

By the by the ottoman where totally teetering in the 18th century and it was only differing commitments by European countrys and major attempts at reform that allowed it to survive for as long as it did.
 
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