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Well this isn't anything new; the Bible isn't exactly a G-rated book after all.
Rumsfeldia: Fear and Loathing in the Decade of Tears
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Well this isn't anything new; the Bible isn't exactly a G-rated book after all.
Actually, the majority of "moral guardian" types aren't bothered at all by violence in media-it's sex that gets them into a rage. As someone once said, you can cut off a breast on TV, but you can't kiss it.
Bookmark1995
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And yet "Moral Guardians" believe everything else should be G-rated.
I think this attitude is more evidence about the need to separate church and state.
The South Park movie satirized this: Sheila hates swearing, but has no problem waging a genocidal war against Canadians.
The documentary This Film Is Not Yet Rated makes a very disturbing observation: the people in charge of movie ratings aren't bothered by scenes of abuse, but hated a scene that depicted sex as pleasurable.
It is frightening to think the Southern Strategy took this madness and watered it down to a less dangerous form.
But it is still mind-boggling that American society has a greater apprehension toward sex than guns.
Yeah, i have seen it and it's…peculiar and hardly forgettable and frankly it's hard to see any remake of it that not quickly become a cheap exploatation movie
Pasolini was a man that loved party extremely hard and usually surrounded himself of people of very dubious reputation (he died in an altercation with a male prostitute), so while the incident can be butterflyed away it's very probable that another will happen
There were rumors of more people involved or some conspiracy by right wing extremist or the thief of some roll of Salò but in reality it much more credible that Pasolini die in such manner know the type as by admission of his friends it was not the first time that happened (minus the extreme violence)
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Pelosi it's in italian but this is the man in the end condemned for the homicide of Pier Paolo Pasolini
Bookmark1995
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Or was Pasolini like Marquis De Sade? A dangerously hedonistic man who loved feeding his sick whims.
Bookmark1995
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One of the most chilling things about this TL is this:
Whereas the disasters of the early 20th century were (largely) the result of bloody interstate conflict, the disasters that have struck the TTL late 20th century have been the result of governmental incompetence and mismanagement.
Magnus Malan, Lesser Mao, Donald Rumsfeld, Douglas Coe, and many other rulers of this period all claimed that they were building a bigger, stronger nation. They all claimed their actions were for the greater good. They all claimed they were protecting their people from outside threats. But in the end, they did more damage to their own countries than any enemy ever could, and became as bad as the people they were opposing.
Like all the colonizers out there, Malan called himself "a defender of civilization" and a "warrior against communism." But he had little problem sacrificing such petty Western things like human rights and rule of law. Even toward his own people, he had become incredibly exploitative. And as his reign dwindled, he would also destroy and contaminate the lands he claimed he was civilizing.
Lesser Mao called himself a defender of the Chinese people and the heir to his uncle's Revolution. But by the time he dropped the bomb on Kwangsi, he was no better than the Emperors or the evil European colonists. He turned China into one giant Congo Free State, working his people to death for a single cash crop, and happily exploiting the misery and poverty of the nations around him. And in the end, he plunged his people into decades of even more terror and violence.
Donald Rumsfeld called himself a defender of free enterprise and freedom. But like the commies, he was willing to imprison and torment his own allies for daring to question his ideas. Him imprisoning Goldwater is the equivalent of Stalin imprisoning Karl Marx. And his economic policies degenerated into a wicked form of state capitalism. And by the time he was overthrown, he turned America from prosperity to poverty and desolation.
Douglas Coe picked up the pieces of Rumsfeld's mess and promised good Christian Values. And like the Lesser Mao before him, he had little problem cracking the nuclear whip, building slave labor camps, and poisoning his own people when they dared to resist his lunacy.
Collectively, these men leave behind a death toll that could potentially surpass that of the previous two world wars combined. Their pride proved to be more deadly than even the genocidal madness of Adolf Hitler.
Whereas the disasters of the early 20th century were (largely) the result of bloody interstate conflict, the disasters that have struck the TTL late 20th century have been the result of governmental incompetence and mismanagement.
Magnus Malan, Lesser Mao, Donald Rumsfeld, Douglas Coe, and many other rulers of this period all claimed that they were building a bigger, stronger nation. They all claimed their actions were for the greater good. They all claimed they were protecting their people from outside threats. But in the end, they did more damage to their own countries than any enemy ever could, and became as bad as the people they were opposing.
Like all the colonizers out there, Malan called himself "a defender of civilization" and a "warrior against communism." But he had little problem sacrificing such petty Western things like human rights and rule of law. Even toward his own people, he had become incredibly exploitative. And as his reign dwindled, he would also destroy and contaminate the lands he claimed he was civilizing.
Lesser Mao called himself a defender of the Chinese people and the heir to his uncle's Revolution. But by the time he dropped the bomb on Kwangsi, he was no better than the Emperors or the evil European colonists. He turned China into one giant Congo Free State, working his people to death for a single cash crop, and happily exploiting the misery and poverty of the nations around him. And in the end, he plunged his people into decades of even more terror and violence.
Donald Rumsfeld called himself a defender of free enterprise and freedom. But like the commies, he was willing to imprison and torment his own allies for daring to question his ideas. Him imprisoning Goldwater is the equivalent of Stalin imprisoning Karl Marx. And his economic policies degenerated into a wicked form of state capitalism. And by the time he was overthrown, he turned America from prosperity to poverty and desolation.
Douglas Coe picked up the pieces of Rumsfeld's mess and promised good Christian Values. And like the Lesser Mao before him, he had little problem cracking the nuclear whip, building slave labor camps, and poisoning his own people when they dared to resist his lunacy.
Collectively, these men leave behind a death toll that could potentially surpass that of the previous two world wars combined. Their pride proved to be more deadly than even the genocidal madness of Adolf Hitler.
They're simply the places where the pre-CV US government managed to hold on.
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When did the practice of “buying votes” start? Was it 1984 or was it 1986?
First time I read about it was the CV buying votes in exchange for redeeming investment certificates in the Bedford Falls update. I would assume that it started in 1986-87 until Rumsfeld.
Jim Balaya
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Hello, new poster here. Please tell me if I'm allow to post this there, otherwise, may the moderators nuke it into oblivion.
Please note I post this link because it looks like an OTL mirror, in 2020, of Drew 1972 constitutional crisis.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/
I don't care about present politics or DJT, just about the inner mechanics of such constitutional crisis, as shown in the article.
Please note I post this link because it looks like an OTL mirror, in 2020, of Drew 1972 constitutional crisis.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/
I don't care about present politics or DJT, just about the inner mechanics of such constitutional crisis, as shown in the article.
Bookmark1995
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I think the issue TTL was a deadlocked electoral college, plus a whole bunch of other bits of craziness.
How powerful was that nuke anyway? Even if it was a low-yield tactical weapon, I can't see it destroying just the Capitol building while leaving the White House and the rest of the city intact.
Er, what makes you think there were nukes in those missiles? He probably just used conventional warheads.
Apologies if this has already been discussed on here, or if it's considered current "politics", but given the circumstances, you have to wonder how a semi-authoritarian anarcho-capitalist regime in the United States would have responded to a pandemic a la COVID-19 breaking out in the timeframe.
Naturally the conclusion one would draw is that, with the Rumsfeld administration's generally Social Darwinist attitude to society in general, it's blind worship of the free market, and it's attraction to conspiracy theories, it won't lift a finger, beyond generally telling the American public to get on with it, or blaming it's spread on the usual scapegoats. You could also imagine that, in the few instances where it would even be acknowledged, it would see it as an engineered virus exported from a lab somewhere in the Soviet Union. You might even see references to it being a Socialist virus or something along those lines.
On the other hand, the possibilities that a pandemic offers in terms of exerting control over the population might be very tempting to would-be authoritarians in the Rumsfeld administration. Whereas before you might have seen dissidents removed due to alleged mental breakdowns, perhaps now they might be diagnosed as having caught a particularly bad case of COVID, and are being cloistered away for the sake of public health (they might even put down mysterious i.e. deliberate deaths to COVID cases). Still, the lamentable approach of Rumsfeld and his followers to public health (or public anything really) l makes this a bit hard to believe to be honest.
Naturally the conclusion one would draw is that, with the Rumsfeld administration's generally Social Darwinist attitude to society in general, it's blind worship of the free market, and it's attraction to conspiracy theories, it won't lift a finger, beyond generally telling the American public to get on with it, or blaming it's spread on the usual scapegoats. You could also imagine that, in the few instances where it would even be acknowledged, it would see it as an engineered virus exported from a lab somewhere in the Soviet Union. You might even see references to it being a Socialist virus or something along those lines.
On the other hand, the possibilities that a pandemic offers in terms of exerting control over the population might be very tempting to would-be authoritarians in the Rumsfeld administration. Whereas before you might have seen dissidents removed due to alleged mental breakdowns, perhaps now they might be diagnosed as having caught a particularly bad case of COVID, and are being cloistered away for the sake of public health (they might even put down mysterious i.e. deliberate deaths to COVID cases). Still, the lamentable approach of Rumsfeld and his followers to public health (or public anything really) l makes this a bit hard to believe to be honest.
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