Rumsfeldia: Fear and Loathing in the Decade of Tears

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And North Korea is very reformist whilst looking towards Moscow. I would call Ryhzkov's Russia a Scandinavian-style economy more than anything; it looks like Scandinavian economics may well be the trend set for the foreseeable future. By the way, I seem to remember reading this a few months ago - aren't the Japanese government very militaristic and trying to repeal Article 9?

Nope, just stretching the definition of "Self-Defense" to include nukes and aircraft carriers.
 
Ah. Not too far from our timeline then, given Tokyo has desert vehicles in its "Ground Self-Defense Force" because, as we all know, Japan is surrounded by desert.

Of course, their program is justified by the mess that China became, and the increasing belligerence of Rummy.
 
You know a scene in Vice got me thinking, the part where Cheney asks Rumsfeld, “what do we believe?” and Rumsfeld laughs as though it’s the funniest thing he’s ever heard. With most of the people who worked for the Rumsfeld Administration either dead or recovering from being in bedlam house or joining the CV to descend into madness, Cheney is the last one left to write the narrative on Rumsfeld as a person. I think I know where the Rumsfeldia apologists get their narrative from.
 
You know a scene in Vice got me thinking, the part where Cheney asks Rumsfeld, “what do we believe?” and Rumsfeld laughs as though it’s the funniest thing he’s ever heard. With most of the people who worked for the Rumsfeld Administration either dead or recovering from being in bedlam house or joining the CV to descend into madness, Cheney is the last one left to write the narrative on Rumsfeld as a person. I think I know where the Rumsfeldia apologists get their narrative from.

Maybe.

But millions of Americans aren't going to look fondly at the lunatic who laid the foundation for America's downfall.
 
Maybe.

But millions of Americans aren't going to look fondly at the lunatic who laid the foundation for America's downfall.

A small part of me wishes once Coe dies, he meets God and God sends him to hell, just to see what he says to God. The person he did all these atrocities in the name of and watch God be disgusted by his actions.
 
A small part of me wishes once Coe dies, he meets God and God sends him to hell, just to see what he says to God. The person he did all these atrocities in the name of and watch God be disgusted by his actions.
I'm reminded of a great quote from a teen Titans fanfic I think that's gonna sum up the reception he's gonna get:

Beast Boy: When your time of judgment comes, you will pass through the gates. You will walk to the throne of our Lord, and kneel in expectations of your thanks and gratitude. And He will look at you…not with pride, not with joy…but with sadness. And He will speak but four words. I don’t know you.
 
I'm reminded of a great quote from a teen Titans fanfic I think that's gonna sum up the reception he's gonna get:

Beast Boy: When your time of judgment comes, you will pass through the gates. You will walk to the throne of our Lord, and kneel in expectations of your thanks and gratitude. And He will look at you…not with pride, not with joy…but with sadness. And He will speak but four words. I don’t know you.
A powerful quote, made instantly hilarious that its from a Teen Titans fanfiction.

What kind of fanfiction was that.
 
A small part of me wishes once Coe dies, he meets God and God sends him to hell, just to see what he says to God. The person he did all these atrocities in the name of and watch God be disgusted by his actions.

I can picture a lot of stories about this topic: CV supporters and officials being condemned to Hell for their criminals. Some of them might be philosophical and brooding, Others might be revenge porn, with Coe and his fellow nutcases suffering great agony in the Nine Circles.

I'm reminded of a great quote from a teen Titans fanfic I think that's gonna sum up the reception he's gonna get:

Beast Boy: When your time of judgment comes, you will pass through the gates. You will walk to the throne of our Lord, and kneel in expectations of your thanks and gratitude. And He will look at you…not with pride, not with joy…but with sadness. And He will speak but four words. I don’t know you.

Man, those words cut more then even the most thundering threat of damnation.
 
Beast Boy: When your time of judgment comes, you will pass through the gates. You will walk to the throne of our Lord, and kneel in expectations of your thanks and gratitude. And He will look at you…not with pride, not with joy…but with sadness. And He will speak but four words. I don’t know you.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
I'm reminded of a great quote from a teen Titans fanfic I think that's gonna sum up the reception he's gonna get:

Beast Boy: When your time of judgment comes, you will pass through the gates. You will walk to the throne of our Lord, and kneel in expectations of your thanks and gratitude. And He will look at you…not with pride, not with joy…but with sadness. And He will speak but four words. I don’t know you.
Yikes. Talk about a cold condemnation.

So a question comes to mind, and sorry if I'm annoying anyone for asking: When's the next update due? And what happens to Wallace? I personally hope for a last stand; it's cruel, but better than being dragged before a kangaroo court and being sentenced to a labor camp or being executed.
 
Yikes. Talk about a cold condemnation.

So a question comes to mind, and sorry if I'm annoying anyone for asking: When's the next update due? And what happens to Wallace? I personally hope for a last stand; it's cruel, but better than being dragged before a kangaroo court and being sentenced to a labor camp or being executed.

Here's how it has been.

Drew has been very busy, and thus can't focus on the TL. So, I've been helping Drew along, since I have a lot more free time. I sent some events, Drew edits, and it gets published.

Simply put, you have to wait for Drew to find time to go over the edits to the stuff I send.
 
Here's how it has been.

Drew has been very busy, and thus can't focus on the TL. So, I've been helping Drew along, since I have a lot more free time. I sent some events, Drew edits, and it gets published.

Simply put, you have to wait for Drew to find time to go over the edits to the stuff I send.
Got it, sorry about being a pest.
 
I can't blame you. The reason why I'm helping Drew is because I really, really, wanted this story to continue, so I decided to help him out.
Speaking of that (and speaking from India) would it be possible to do some India interludes? I've been spending time with my relatives listening to stories of the Emergency, and I have a little inspiration. Can I PM you a possible snippet for evaluation later?
 

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This might seem like a bit of an odd query, but how many mass murders (specifically committed with guns) and serial killings are happening in the now ruined United States? I'm a little bit shocked that with this timeline's very anti-conservative bent I haven't seen one update about a mass shooting.
 
This might seem like a bit of an odd query, but how many mass murders (specifically committed with guns) and serial killings are happening in the now ruined United States? I'm a little bit shocked that with this timeline's very anti-conservative bent I haven't seen one update about a mass shooting.

The sort of people who would normally commit mass shootings in OTL are likely the people that are handed guns and told to go round up their neighbors, or make some of them disappear. Basically, they have an outlet and job satisfaction.

The other thing is in a country in the middle of civil war, where one side is throwing nukes around, no one really cares about the occasional nutcase. There's bigger things to worry about.
 

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The sort of people who would normally commit mass shootings in OTL are likely the people that are handed guns and told to go round up their neighbors, or make some of them disappear. Basically, they have an outlet and job satisfaction.

In some cases this is correct. I surmise that a person like Patrick Sherril, James Oliver Huberty, Joseph Wesbecker, or George Hennard could find work in being a member of either the Liberty Legions/Battalions*, the Holy Battalions, or police/army/National Guard, since those occupations come with the potential to cause extreme violence in a "socially acceptable" manner, but do not assume that this would be true of every (or even a majority of) would-be mass shooter(s). The act of mass murder is oftentimes coupled with the act of suicide, if not in practice then in spirit. Mass murder is usually the result of someone who feels deeply inadequate about themselves combined with an intense rage against the wider world and their fellow human beings. Essentially, they want to kill themselves but feel like they should ruin as many lives as possible before clocking out for good.

With that being said, the motives of mass murderers can be incredibly varied, and might not be connected to reality. For example, Edward Allaway had delusional beliefs about people putting his wife into porn movies. Richard Farley stalked a co-worker for years and lashed out violently when she got a restraining order against him. ITTL, with the total breakdown of the mental health system, not to mention the incredible amounts of stress the kind of poverty ridden shithole Rumsfeld's America and the CV's theocracy have created, you could easily end up with many more mass murderers than we've seen IOTL.

*I've seen them alternatively referred to as Legions and Battalions, so I wasn't sure which version to use.
 
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