And that in turn just might lead to wretched things being done to them in return by those they've harmed.
Rumsfeldia: Fear and Loathing in the Decade of Tears
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And that in turn just might lead to wretched things being done to them in return by those they've harmed.
Bookmark1995
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Well, Drew did hint about what is in store for disabled people.
To be more specific, the collapse of medical infrastructure, growing poverty, and cutbacks to health and welfare programs make the situation look very bleak indeed.
I can imagine CV people, when they are about to be (or they think they are about to be) brutally murdered, they might do one of four things.
1) Cry and beg for mercy-like all snakes do when they have the sword pointed at them.
2) Loudly pray for God's to forgive the sins of his enemies-possibly in genuine last prayers, or to elicit some sympathy from their opponents.
3) Loudly berate their opponent, calming them the spawn of Satan.
4) Kill themselves.
I warned you, in THIS THREAD, about dragging current politics into ANY Forum outside of Chat.
Clearly that did not make a damned bit of difference.
So, let's try another way to focus your attention.
Kicked for a week. Stop doing this. STOP.
Bookmark1995
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I bet ITTL, it might be seen one of two ways: a twisted satire of a beloved classic, or a look into a highly twisted mindset that was Rumsfeldia.
Bookmark1995
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Re-reading some of Drew's old posts, I found one that will certainly be listed in-universe as "Harsher In Hindsight"./
I think future historians ITTL will talk about this commercial with bitter irony: that the threat of nuclear annihilation WAS real, but John Q. Public missed the real threat all along.
I think future historians ITTL will talk about this commercial with bitter irony: that the threat of nuclear annihilation WAS real, but John Q. Public missed the real threat all along.
Middlesex_Toffeeman
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I have been reading this timeline, and it is really rather scary seeing a literal fascist regime appear in America, which, in our timeline, is one of the world's superpowers.
How did neoliberalism do? Is it still a credible ideology or has it gone the way of the dodo with the Rumsfeld/Coe regimes? I am of the opinion that when the Russian hegemony falls, we may well see another neoliberal period in the style of the 1980s in OTL.
How did neoliberalism do? Is it still a credible ideology or has it gone the way of the dodo with the Rumsfeld/Coe regimes? I am of the opinion that when the Russian hegemony falls, we may well see another neoliberal period in the style of the 1980s in OTL.
If it does happen, it won't be for another generation. And it may happen in Europe and Russia, but probably not in the American successor states.
manav95
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It's already happened; Russia has done MBA Communism and opened up it's economy like OTL China. So they are now heading towards global economic dominance given the implosion of the US.
Bookmark1995
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Damn. What does it say about the world that a corrupt, authoritarian, communist regime is the dominant economic and military power in the world, because the other dominant power destroyed everything good about itself. How does your outlook on life change when such things became apparent.
Middlesex_Toffeeman
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What I mean is that Ryzhkov will kick the proverbial bucket and his replacement will, even if Ryzhkov gets his wet dream where Eurasia from Londonderry to Vladivostok is under the Russian yoke and incorporated in ATL's *Warsaw Pact, when the next recession hits, the *Tories, *UPM, and whatever opposition parties exist in *Soviet Russia will all be clamouring for true neoliberalism, not like Rumsfeldia/CV which was, in fact, Fascism disguised as neoliberalism.
This ATL is actually quite interesting in that Socialism and neoliberalism have swapped places. In this ATL, neoliberalism has caused millions of deaths across the world, whereas Socialism has pulled people out of poverty and rejuvenated
Bookmark1995
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Uh...
I think this world has seen the worst of both the far-left and right.
Far-left China devolved into a chaotic, mass-murdering, narco-state whose leadership was willing to drop nukes.
America, going far-right, devolved into the same thing.
mspence
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If America is able to rebuild, it will probably be as a Commonwealth.
Anything pop culture related is happening in Europe, Japan, Australia, Mexico, and to a smaller degree MBA-era Russia.
Just for arguments' sake, here's my version of how a Fear & Loathing/Rumsfeldia presidency TL might have gone under different circumstances:
Richard M. Nixon 1969-1974; Impeached
Philip Habib, Deputy Secretary of State, Acting President, 1974-77
George Wallace 1977-1981
George H.W. Bush 1981-1989
Donald Rumsfeld 1989-1991; Removed from office
Pat Robertson, "Acting President," 1991-1992
Douglas Coe, 1992-?
Interregnum Period, 1992-2001
Gen. Colin Powell, de facto acting President during the post-Coe era
American reunification era, formation of American Commonwealth, 2001-2006
Commonwealth Presidents:
John McCain, Unity Party, 2001-2005
Jerry Brown, Progressive Coalition, 2005-2013
Jon Huntsman, Independent Coalition, 2013-2017
Gary Johnson, Libertarian Coalition, 2017-current
Anything pop culture related is happening in Europe, Japan, Australia, Mexico, and to a smaller degree MBA-era Russia.
Just for arguments' sake, here's my version of how a Fear & Loathing/Rumsfeldia presidency TL might have gone under different circumstances:
Richard M. Nixon 1969-1974; Impeached
Philip Habib, Deputy Secretary of State, Acting President, 1974-77
George Wallace 1977-1981
George H.W. Bush 1981-1989
Donald Rumsfeld 1989-1991; Removed from office
Pat Robertson, "Acting President," 1991-1992
Douglas Coe, 1992-?
Interregnum Period, 1992-2001
Gen. Colin Powell, de facto acting President during the post-Coe era
American reunification era, formation of American Commonwealth, 2001-2006
Commonwealth Presidents:
John McCain, Unity Party, 2001-2005
Jerry Brown, Progressive Coalition, 2005-2013
Jon Huntsman, Independent Coalition, 2013-2017
Gary Johnson, Libertarian Coalition, 2017-current
When eventually the CSA is cornered, Where you think that the rest of the atomic arsenal is going to be launched? I don't think these people will lose without destroying something of their enemies. I have two options: one is New England where the exiled goverment is and the other is on their own territory to destroy the enemies
A little headcanon of mine: the name of Washington was changed to New Jerusalem
A little headcanon of mine: the name of Washington was changed to New Jerusalem
I change my headcanon: New Jerusalem would be the name.that they are going to give to New York if they defeat the evil Satanists from New England
I found on the Rummyhorror update that Washington is actually called "Christ City"
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The Christian States should've kept it DC, just made it stand for "District of Christ."
The CSA only has access to smaller yield, shorter range nuclear weapons, deployed via cruise missiles, smaller aircraft (like the B61) and artillery.
ICBMs, strategic bombers and ballistic missile subs are out of their reach. Although some of the weapons at their disposal are still devastating (up to 400 kilotonnes).
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