Aha fair, so Felipe v getting your vote then?
At the moment, I confess I'm undecided.
Aha fair, so Felipe v getting your vote then?
Who are you hovering between?At the moment, I confess I'm undecided.
Who are you hovering between?
An early death?Well, I'm wondering if there wasn't some way- though there probably wasn't- if France, after Charles V, couldn't have turned
to someone- anyone!- other than Charles
VI(or @ least quickly gotten him off the
throne). That may well have prevented a
lot of future problems- as well as butterflying
Charles VII away.
Weren't Louis XII and later Francis I actually descend from Louis, Duke of Orleans, brother of Charles VI, and the same man who was murdered by John the Fearless, Duke of Burgundy? Why keep the appellation Valois if they could just be called the House of Orleans since Louis XII was actually Duke of Orleans before he became king, just like Philip VI was Count of Valois before he became king??
Technically Francis I is a Valois-Angoulême.Because the dynasty are usually called by the principal title held just before getting onto the throne, not the name of the ancestor. Thus two Valois (Philip, Count and Francis, Duke) and one Orléans (Louis, Duke), even if all three descended from the same Charles de Valois and the latter two from the same Louis d'Orléans.
Technically Francis I is a Valois-Angoulême.