Rule Britannia!

[Russell]

I just read Rule Britannia - Part 1, and I enjoyed it very much. I searched around a bit, but could find no trace of a part 2.

https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=99978&highlight=Rule+Britannia

Also saw that in the searches.

There is no part two - the TL only goes upto the year 2000.

Russell

 

[RMcD94]

Is there going to be?

 

[Abdul Hadi Pasha]

The Ottomans were not nearly out of ammo - that is an unsupported claim made by Churchill. In fact, they had only used about a sixth, as confirmed by Ottoman and German records.

Even if they'd gotten through, all they'd have is a fleet trapped in an inland sea surrounded by hostile shores and easy prey to mines, subs, and torpedo boats.

 

[Saepe Fidelis]

The Ottomans were not nearly out of ammo - that is an unsupported claim made by Churchill. In fact, they had only used about a sixth, as confirmed by Ottoman and German records.

Even if they'd gotten through, all they'd have is a fleet trapped in an inland sea surrounded by hostile shores and easy prey to mines, subs, and torpedo boats.

Really? In this TL, which although awesome, is pretty damned nurealistic, yoiu're icking on that?

 

[Lord Insane]

Really? In this TL, which although awesome, is pretty damned nurealistic, yoiu're icking on that?

Well, it is the POD's basis, and therefore at the core of everything that follows. And, of course, it isn't just a matter of unrealism, but of the POD being based on something that isn't true (as opposed to just being plain unlikely to happen).

 

[Gosing]

Really? In this TL, which although awesome, is pretty damned nurealistic, yoiu're icking on that?

Well, it is the POD's basis, and therefore at the core of everything that follows. And, of course, it isn't just a matter of unrealism, but of the POD being based on something that isn't true (as opposed to just being plain unlikely to happen).

This timeline is an unqualified success for Spain.

Nothing happens to them in 78 years since the joint Spanish-French invasion of Morocco.

No El-Annual disaster means no Primo de Rivera dictatorship, no Republic, no Spanish Civil war and no Franco... which apparently means it gets to keep the protectorate over the Rif, Western Sahara and Equatorial Guinea. And that last would mean it is an oil producer in 2000. I'd say it is a tremendous improvement over OTL.

Rather I suspect it has been forgotten about and left aside. After all, Spain doesn't usually play any worthwhile role in AH, except being the whipping boy for Britain, France, the US, or Spain herself via the ubiquitous Spanish Civil War (1).

I'd say that it was ISOTd to 1492 with colonies and all, THEN forgotten about in that timeline. In the resulting branch-off, 50 years later it rules the world with an iron fist and an empty purse. As expected of Spain, of course.

(1) Which curiously is always singular in popular wisdom, when it was -at the very least- the fourth such conflict in two centuries.

With full knowledge of my hypocrisy, do not post in other people's TLaS threads.

 

[ah-sue]

Well, it is the POD's basis, and therefore at the core of everything that follows. And, of course, it isn't just a matter of unrealism, but of the POD being based on something that isn't true (as opposed to just being plain unlikely to happen).

Maybe I've missed it, but I can't see where Anaxagoras states the POD. I suspect that timewise it was well before the British attack and that the relevant action/inaction was to make supplies of ammunition etc woefully insufficient.

 

[Zeldar155]

Sorry for any necromancy, but is there a part 2 of this timeline?

 

[Anaxagoras]

Sorry for any necromancy, but is there a part 2 of this timeline?

I have no plans at present to extend the TL further (although I occasionally think on how cool it would be to go all the way to 2300 AD with it). However, I do hope at some point to flesh out the TL in more detail and retcon things which I think I have gotten wrong.

 

[Zeldar155]

Okay, Thanks for the reply!

 

[Hero of Canton]

I have no plans at present to extend the TL further (although I occasionally think on how cool it would be to go all the way to 2300 AD with it). However, I do hope at some point to flesh out the TL in more detail and retcon things which I think I have gotten wrong.

I will greatly look forward to such an update. If I may suggest, have it include events up to 2100 AD -- The Conquest of the Solar System (metaphorically speaking of course).

Hero of Canton

 

[quixo]

so is there any map of the TL? If so could someone point out in what page it is?

 

[Emperor of Halton]

There are maps throughout the TL, but the biggest and most recent one is on page 33 of this thread.

 

[TickTock The Witch's Dead]

Why no TL up to 2012?

 

[TickTock The Witch's Dead]

Which pages have the maps again?

 

[Anaxagoras]

Why no TL up to 2012?

Maybe someday...

 

[Ash's Boomstick]

Maybe someday...

Even if not this TL will we see something else from you in regards to the Empire?

 

[Alex1guy]

Bit of a necro there gents.

Although I must admit, this TL is a personal favorite of mine Was the TL that more or less got me hooked to this website...

 

[Barbarossa Rotbart]

In know that this TL has been completed, but after reading the first couple of years, I found several unrealistic events:
- civil unrest in A-H in 1916: that's one year to soon. 1916 was the last year without domestic problems for A-H.
- Alsace-Lorraine voting for becoming part of France: sorry, but that's wrong. Until the end of WW2, A-L never wanted to change its nationality, not 1871 and not in 1919.

 

[Lalli]

In know that this TL has been completed, but after reading the first couple of years, I found several unrealistic events:
- civil unrest in A-H in 1916: that's one year to soon. 1916 was the last year without domestic problems for A-H.
- Alsace-Lorraine voting for becoming part of France: sorry, but that's wrong. Until the end of WW2, A-L never wanted to change its nationality, not 1871 and not in 1919.

Bigger problem is that there is surviving Russian Empire. It is too late to save that. Leastly there should be more restless and wars. And I don't think that French and British empires could survive until 2000's.