Royal Mexico

Turning point:
1808 Fernando VII flees to New Spain after Napoleonic invasion after signing a treaty with UK. Mexico City becomes the centre of the Spanish Empire.
1815 H.R.H. comes back to Spain in order to deal with the liberales. He left his conservative brother, Carlos as regent. Meanwhile he was in the Americas, they have produced a Constitution in 1812. He nullifies it.
1820 Riego's uprising. The Constitution of 1812 comes to effect.
1821 Mexican elites convince Don Carlos to proclaim himself King of México. The Capitancy of Guatemala adheres.
1822 Carlos I of México gaves his people a Charter which guarantees limited representation in the bicameral Cortes to the corporations.
1823 Southernmost province of Costa Rica proclaims her independence and intends to annex to Bolívar's Gran Colombia. Mexican government launches an expedition to keep the province in.
1826 Fearing a Spanish invasion, México launches an expedition on Cuba with UK support.
1827 Havana finally surrenders.
1829 Failed reconquista of Cuba.
1830 Fernando VII accepts to recognize the independence of México if his brother declines his potential claim on the throne of Spain to clear the way to his daughter Isabel. Carlos refuses.
1833 Fernando VII dies. Isabel is proclaimed queen of Spain and her mother Cristina, regent. Carlos's supporters in the Peninsula ("carlistas") rise in arms. Carlos sents a Mexican convoy to fight for his rights and appoints the generals that conduct the war.
1835 Rise of public discontent. Texas proclaims her independence, along with San Salvador. Mexican subjects are tired of heavy burdens of war and increases in debt.
1836 Texian and Salvadoran rebellion repressed. Abdication of Carlos. His first son becomes Carlos II. The new monarch, aware of the internal problems of his country, accepts to negotiate a treaty with María Cristina: Spain recognizes the independence of México and the occupation of Cuba (while preserving the interests of Spanish landowners and merchants) while he abandons his claim (and of his cadet branch) to the throne of Spain. A new Constitution is enacted. Centralisation stays, representation is limited to those that have properties and pay taxes. New political division of the country in uniformed
provinces.

How long can Mexico survive as a monarchy?
 

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Turning point:
1808 Fernando VII flees to New Spain after Napoleonic invasion after signing a treaty with UK. Mexico City becomes the centre of the Spanish Empire.
1815 H.R.H. comes back to Spain in order to deal with the liberales. He left his conservative brother, Carlos as regent. Meanwhile he was in the Americas, they have produced a Constitution in 1812. He nullifies it.
1820 Riego's uprising. The Constitution of 1812 comes to effect.
1821 Mexican elites convince Don Carlos to proclaim himself King of México. The Capitancy of Guatemala adheres.
1822 Carlos I of México gaves his people a Charter which guarantees limited representation in the bicameral Cortes to the corporations.
1823 Southernmost province of Costa Rica proclaims her independence and intends to annex to Bolívar's Gran Colombia. Mexican government launches an expedition to keep the province in.
1826 Fearing a Spanish invasion, México launches an expedition on Cuba with UK support.
1827 Havana finally surrenders.
1829 Failed reconquista of Cuba.
1830 Fernando VII accepts to recognize the independence of México if his brother declines his potential claim on the throne of Spain to clear the way to his daughter Isabel. Carlos refuses.
1833 Fernando VII dies. Isabel is proclaimed queen of Spain and her mother Cristina, regent. Carlos's supporters in the Peninsula ("carlistas") rise in arms. Carlos sents a Mexican convoy to fight for his rights and appoints the generals that conduct the war.
1835 Rise of public discontent. Texas proclaims her independence, along with San Salvador. Mexican subjects are tired of heavy burdens of war and increases in debt.
1836 Texian and Salvadoran rebellion repressed. Abdication of Carlos. His first son becomes Carlos II. The new monarch, aware of the internal problems of his country, accepts to negotiate a treaty with María Cristina: Spain recognizes the independence of México and the occupation of Cuba (while preserving the interests of Spanish landowners and merchants) while he abandons his claim (and of his cadet branch) to the throne of Spain. A new Constitution is enacted. Centralisation stays, representation is limited to those that have properties and pay taxes. New political division of the country in uniformed
provinces.

How long can Mexico survive as a monarchy?

where is mexico getting the men, materials, & officer corps for so many expeditions in such a short time?
 
I think that the problem lies in the POD. Why would Fernando want to go to New Spain? What would be probably be more probable is Carlos IV fleeing (but that would be a bit too messy).
 
I think that the problem lies in the POD. Why would Fernando want to go to New Spain? What would be probably be more probable is Carlos IV fleeing (but that would be a bit too messy).

I did the timeline based on a careful historical research. The divergent point was a feasible one (Spanish Court fleeing to México). Had Fernando been more intelligent he would have turned to the British instead on counting on the alliance his own father and Godoy pursued with Napoleon. It would be far more consistent for a newly-crowned king, to leave the Peninsula - where he is not safe - and flight to the Americas, as the Portuguese Court had done. New Spain was the most important of the outremer kingdoms.

Why would Carlos (the traditionalist) suddenly accept the throne of Mexico.....especially given he thought he had a reasonable shot at the throne of Spain if he just waited?).[/quote]

In the early 1820's, (the time of Mexican independence) Carlos was regarded as the presumptive heir to the Spanish Crown but it was fairly expected for Fernando VII to produce a male-heir. It was not until 1830 that he was aware that he might not produce that desired child and his brother and his supporters had their expectations almost fullfilled. In fact, in OTL, that precise year, Fernando conditionated the recognition of independence of México, among other things, if his brother was crowned in México.
 
I did the timeline based on a careful historical research. The divergent point was a feasible one (Spanish Court fleeing to México). Had Fernando been more intelligent he would have turned to the British instead on counting on the alliance his own father and Godoy pursued with Napoleon.

That assumes that Fernando was more intelligent than he really was. He was pretty much a d**khead in the purest sense of the word. I seriously don't see him fleeing to Mexico - however, I could see Carlos the father doing so, as they almost did in OTL. (even if Carlos the father was just as much of a prick as Fernando - albeit a lazy prick)
 
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