Roosevelt family rivalry if Quentin lives?

This is an aspect which I don't think our previous Quentin discussions covered, so what does everyone think? By 1918 FDR was well established in his political career, and this was before the well was completely poisoned between Hyde Park and Oyster Bay.
 
I don't think the two ever met each other.

I'm talking in an ATL where Quentin lives. If Quentin embarks on a political career (and many people will be encouraging him to do so) then likely his ambitions will eventually clash with Franklin's. Though since there's a 15-year age gap, maybe not.
 
I'm talking in an ATL where Quentin lives. If Quentin embarks on a political career (and many people will be encouraging him to do so) then likely his ambitions will eventually clash with Franklin's. Though since there's a 15-year age gap, maybe not.
I know, I'm just saying that it's hard to speculate really since the two never met.
I think Quentin would be inspired by FDR much like FDR was inspired by TR.

If Quetins wins -> TR lives longer, then TR wins in '20. The policies he and his VP enact determine when the Depression will occur. If it happens by '32, Quentin can say goodbye to being President unless he becomes an alt-Eisenhower figure. So he would probably be a leading liberal Republican. I could see him defecting to the Democrats like Wallace, or reforming the rump Republicans to be much more liberal.
 
I know, I'm just saying that it's hard to speculate really since the two never met.
I think Quentin would be inspired by FDR much like FDR was inspired by TR.

If Quetins wins -> TR lives longer, then TR wins in '20. The policies he and his VP enact determine when the Depression will occur. If it happens by '32, Quentin can say goodbye to being President unless he becomes an alt-Eisenhower figure. So he would probably be a leading liberal Republican. I could see him defecting to the Democrats like Wallace, or reforming the rump Republicans to be much more liberal.

Thing is that 1920-FDR isn't 1933-FDR ideologically, which TNF mentioned in last year's "FDR without polio" thread. Whether he follows his father or his cousin is debatable.

I don't think he does. Without being stricken with polio, Roosevelt probably doesn't take a break from politics, and thus, probably runs for the Senate or Governorship much earlier that OTL. If he goes for the Senate, that gives him a voting record to run against, and, that, combined with the fact that Senators very seldom get elected President, plays against him, in my mind.

If he does get elected Governor earlier, I think that makes him 'old news' politically a lot faster, and he probably gets the Democratic presidential nomination earlier than OTL as well. IIRC, his speech at the 1924 Democratic National Convention (in which he nominated Smith) was so good that the delegates, had he not been so afflicted with polio and still in the early stages of recovery, considered nominating Roosevelt right then and there instead.

If Roosevelt does manage to become President, he's not going to be the same Roosevelt that we know from OTL, either. Roosevelt's affliction with polio changed the way he viewed the world and took him from being a Wilsonian liberal to the social democrat that he governed as, galvanizing Roosevelt toward the concerns of the disadvantaged and the out of luck.
 
Thing is that 1920-FDR isn't 1933-FDR ideologically, which TNF mentioned in last year's "FDR without polio" thread. Whether he follows his father or his cousin is debatable.
Well if FDR doesn't get Polio or remains a Bourbon, then Quentin will be to the left of FDR.
 
Well if FDR doesn't get Polio or remains a Bourbon, then Quentin will be to the left of FDR.

Agreed there. The only way for their careers to remain (at least in the interim) separate would be one serving in Congress, the other in NY state politics. So say FDR runs for Governor and Quentin runs for Congress, later the Senate.
 
I will say that if FDR loses the Governor's race in 1928, Quentin will be the Republicans' only hope in '30. That would be a fight for the ages :D Of course, this is assuming the Depression happens around 1929-30, which is likely, but it could be delayed to '31 or '32.
 
I will say that if FDR loses the Governor's race in 1928, Quentin will be the Republicans' only hope in '30. That would be a fight for the ages :D Of course, this is assuming the Depression happens around 1929-30, which is likely, but it could be delayed to '31 or '32.

IIRC most Alt-Depression threads say that while the roots stretch back to pre-WWI you could mitigate it to something like OTL's early '80s recession instead of a depression. You also have the capable and widely admired (Coolidgean) AG, Albert Ottinger, who only lost to FDR IOTL by a few thousand votes. If I find a collaborator who knows a lot more than I do on this time period, I'd write a TL on this when I have some more time.

Of the two Senate seats, might as well aim for Class I. Same one held IOTL by RFK and HRC.
 
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