Rome Below the Winds: A Javanese Timeline

Sucks to hear man. I'm glad you came back to put an end to it at least. Really hope your situation improves.

I'm not sure if you thought this far ahead, but I'm interested to hear on how you would have handled the Qing conquest and people like Koxinga. Or how the PoD would have eventually impacted the sea cucumber trade in Australia.
 
So...... some bad news here.

Lots of stuff happened for me in real life this winter that kept me from coming back to this site. To keep things short, things ended in me being dumped by my girlfriend (and my first love at that) a few days ago. This was a rather stressful experience, to say the least, and one that ate up most of my energy. Along the way, I've lost track of this timeline's story and I don't think I can continue this specific work at this point.

I'd like to apologize for everyone for this mess. And a big thank you for everyone who took the time to read this story! You all meant a lot to me, really.

I'll answer any questions you still have about the story as promptly as possible.

I'll probably come back to AH.com some time this year when things presumably get better. Probably not to Java though, or even Southeast Asia. I've always liked the Four Oirads, for what it's worth.
Sorry to hear what happened. I did the exact same thing when I had my first real break up as well.

Look forward to seeing what you might have planned in the future at any rate. Best of luck!
 
Lots of stuff happened for me in real life this winter that kept me from coming back to this site. To keep things short, things ended in me being dumped by my girlfriend (and my first love at that) a few days ago. This was a rather stressful experience, to say the least, and one that ate up most of my energy. Along the way, I've lost track of this timeline's story and I don't think I can continue this specific work at this point.

You have nothing to apologize for since a breakup a can be a pretty emotionally exhausting experience for everyone. Just don't forget that there are still people in your life that want the best for you in life, so good luck.;)
 
It's been months since I've last been here, but I've come back eventually with a new timeline on my hands. It'll start a little earlier, though, and on the complete opposite side of Earth. Hopefully it'll be better (and turn out better) than this one. I'll wrap this work up by addressing the few questions left.

Do you think you could give a general indication of where this was headed(or allow someone to pick up from notes).

I didn't really keep notes beside a very general framework, and the rest was in my head undergoing constant revision. I filled in the details whenever I got to that point. Off the top of my head, I believe Baureksa eventually won the civil war and reunited Java, founding a powerful government that ruled in the stead of Mataram monarchs possessing ceremonial power. The civil war was to result in an unprecedentedly centralized system of governance throughout most of Javanese-speaking Java according to what Pangeran Pekik envisioned. The capital, IIRC, was eventually moved to Majapahit. This new Islamic Majapahit would reach its apogee in around 1700, conquering Melaka and attaining unquestioned hegemony in Archipelagic Southeast Asia. The eighteenth century was largely an era of decline, culminating in a nationalistic revolutionary movement in the late eighteenth century that would lead to dynastic change.

Worldwide, Southeast Asia was to play a more central role in the intellectual currents of eighteenth-century Islam, possibly including Bugis notions of liberty spreading to the Middle Eastern heartland. Mughal decline and collapse were also significantly different. I was considering a personal invasion of Burma by Aurangzeb (Ardestani of Golkonda joined the Mughals IOTL, and would have ITTL too; this time, equipped with a novel fleet, he was supposed to have conquered the Burmese kingdom of Arakan) and possibly a Burmese counterinvasion in the early eighteenth century, just cause of how cool it would be to have a Buddhist army marching on Bodh Gaya for the first time in, what, seven hundred years?

I'm not sure if you thought this far ahead, but I'm interested to hear on how you would have handled the Qing conquest and people like Koxinga. Or how the PoD would have eventually impacted the sea cucumber trade in Australia.
I don't believe I had much in store for Koxinga's story itself. And yes, the Javanese state was to have established trading outposts in Australia to monopolize the trepang trade, but nothing even remotely resembling European colonialism in the continent.

Thanks everybody!
 
It's been months since I've last been here, but I've come back eventually with a new timeline on my hands. It'll start a little earlier, though, and on the complete opposite side of Earth. Hopefully it'll be better (and turn out better) than this one. I'll wrap this work up by addressing the few questions left.

And where is that, if I might ask
 
I didn't really keep notes beside a very general framework, and the rest was in my head undergoing constant revision. I filled in the details whenever I got to that point. Off the top of my head, I believe Baureksa eventually won the civil war and reunited Java, founding a powerful government that ruled in the stead of Mataram monarchs possessing ceremonial power. The civil war was to result in an unprecedentedly centralized system of governance throughout most of Javanese-speaking Java according to what Pangeran Pekik envisioned.

And this is what I had been waiting for :< Centralizing Java is pretty much a novelty and a very big deal IMO due to historical political culture that had developed to resist it, as well as the power model(which is inherently a spiritual model) being developed in turn to circumventing said local resistance, so I was very curious how you will pull it off, and how similar and different it will look like compared to OTL Javanese political model.
 
It's been months since I've last been here, but I've come back eventually with a new timeline on my hands. It'll start a little earlier, though, and on the complete opposite side of Earth. Hopefully it'll be better (and turn out better) than this one. I'll wrap this work up by addressing the few questions left.

I really liked this story, BTW, and I wanted to ask for help on 19th century Indonesia and what I could do to stem the Dutch tide then using an independent Philippine republic. I got some ideas from other guys, but yeah...
 
I've enjoyed this story so far. Pity we didn't get to the modern part but nevertheless, it was a very good Indonesian-based TL.

I wish you best of luck for your next TL.
 
Yes, this was a promising, colorful TL. We're definitely not swamped with Javanese TLs.

(Edit: I put it on the wiki page for Indonesia.)
 
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