Romania + Bulgaria?

Is it plausible to have Russia create a Jugoslavija-style buffer state in the eastern Balkans, perhaps as the result of a Russo-Turkish war? If so, would it have any shot at stability? I'm thinking the Great Turkish War might work, as it's comfortably before the era of nationalism and the ethnic divide might not be as important a factor. Any ideas?
 
It won't work. Off the top of my head they're going to fight over empty Dobruja after all of the Turks there are, erm, "relocated"

Once I did a Nazi Europe map where Romania gets the bulk of Bulgaria. Being Slavs, the Bulgarians were genocided in the 1950s.
 
Romans + Slavic Turks? Not really going to work, in my view.
This. Russia has no motivation to have a bigger buffer state, and it will be unwieldy to make a state like that work. At least most of the inhabitants of Yugoslavia spoke the same language, the Romanians and Bulgarians speak very different languages.
 
In OTL, during the crisis following the abdication of the Bulgarian prince Alexander, the Bulgarian regents offered the crown to the Romanian king, but he rejected it under Russian pressure. In any case, such a state would be exceedingly unstable and would probably collapse fairly soon due to contradictory interests.

Romans + Slavic Turks? Not really going to work, in my view.
There is no such things as Slavic Turks - it's a oxymoron. If you think that because the ancient Bulgars were supposedly Turkic (a disputed theory) the Bulgarians are somehow related to the Turks, do you also think that all Slavs are Russians? It's the same logic.
The Romanians are also not Romans, merely one of their descendants.

It won't work. Off the top of my head they're going to fight over empty Dobruja after all of the Turks there are, erm, "relocated"

Once I did a Nazi Europe map where Romania gets the bulk of Bulgaria. Being Slavs, the Bulgarians were genocided in the 1950s.
Why would they "relocate" the Turks? In OTL, though many emigrated, there are still many Turks in Dobruja (more in Bulgaria than in Romania). Also of course there were many Bulgarians and Romanians in Dobruja even while it was under Ottoman rule.
 

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There is no such things as Slavic Turks - it's a oxymoron. If you think that because the ancient Bulgars were supposedly Turkic (a disputed theory) the Bulgarians are somehow related to the Turks, do you also think that all Slavs are Russians? It's the same logic.
The Romanians are also not Romans, merely one of their descendants.
I'm merely poking fun at both concepts :p

However, I do think it conveys just what kind of union it would be if both are combined.
 
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There is no such things as Slavic Turks - it's a oxymoron.

Actually there are quite a lot. Most Balkan Moslems are descendants of Slavs who converted to Islam after the Turkish conquest, so are "Slav" by race but regarded themselves as Turks, and were so regarded by the OE.
 
Romans + Slavic Turks? Not really going to work, in my view.

What

Actually there are quite a lot. Most Balkan Moslems are descendants of Slavs who converted to Islam after the Turkish conquest, so are "Slav" by race but regarded themselves as Turks, and were so regarded by the OE.

Yes, that's a historical definition of the word, but the Bulgarians that would cooperate with Russia certainly don't fall under it. Or any other definition of "Turk".
 
Actually there are quite a lot. Most Balkan Moslems are descendants of Slavs who converted to Islam after the Turkish conquest, so are "Slav" by race but regarded themselves as Turks, and were so regarded by the OE.
There is no such thing as a Slavic race. The Slavs are a language group. And as Turks don't speak Slavic languages, they can't be Slavs.
It's true that most of the Slavic speaking Muslims in the Balkans regarded themselves as Turks, but I've never seen them referred as "Slavic Turks".

That map has many flaws, but I agree that at least Dobruja had probably an overall Muslim - not just Turks- majority in 1877. This doesn't contradict my point.
 
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