(My information on this may not be quite up to date but) AFAIK the Taino did not turn up in the Antilles until 4-500 AD. Preceding them were hunting/gathering Ciboney. The Caribbean being in the humid tropics the Romans Mediterranean crops are unlikely to do well and without native farmers to borrow crops from this Roman colony is going to have a bit of a problem getting established.
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JHPier said:
Depends on the tactics of the indigenous peoples. In the Greek/Roman world, a country's center of gravity was generally its army or capital city. Once one of those were taken then the war was over. If a native army did not stand and fight to be destroyed by heavy infantry, and if they had no key cities to take then heavy infantry would not be the ideal.
It seems at least plausibleand very likely that this Roman colony would still maintain a core of heavy infantry for military operations. I do believe that it is at least plausible that the exiled Romans would develop disciplined light infantry that would be better suited for the climate and better match the mobility of native forces.
JHPier said:
As with all generalities, that one has exceptions as well. Not saying that I'm right, just saying that those are two definitely notable exceptions, that do not necessarily disprove my generalization.
JHPier said:
True, much of what would probably be pointed to as a technological "regression" could probably be better described as the decay of infrastructure (plumbing, roads, etc.) due to the lack of a centralized government. Additionally many things that would be considered Roman technological advancement was really just the greater use/exposure of existing technologies. I'm not willing to conceede the point, but I do recognize that my statement may not be entirely valid.
Decided to make another go. Careful theres a few small differences in the beginning 
. Oh and ignore my previous map.
62 AD- Nero gives Seneca the choice of suicide or finding the new world Seneca believed to be across the sea. Seneca departs with 5 ships, though only three make it to the land across the sea. Among the nearly 300 hundred men who arrive in the New World are scribes, political dissidents, debtors, former soldiers, and various tradesmen. They also bring 45 sheep, 12 oxen and 3 bulls.
The Romans land near OTL San Juan, Puerto Rico where they build the fortified village of Exilium, city of the exiles. They name the island Borikenia after the native name for the isle. The natives are generaly friendly, especially with the new tools the newcomers bring but the seeds of greed are sown.
62 to 77 AD- Exilium prospers. Trade networks across the island are set up allowing for Roman iron to become one of the most valued commodities on the island. It is this very metal that many Romans use to buy there own wives.
The city grows slowly at first but soon the population swells as immigrants, slaves, and creole children begin to appear. The first governemnt is very rudimentary with Seneca nomially in charge but most decisions made by a simple majority vote. Though by the late 70's a Roman style republic is established.
77 AD- The native Cacique Agüeybana and his allies attack Exilium and are routed. Exilium seizes the lands of the hostile Caciques and enslaves most of the population, though most of the females end up as Roman wives.
77-100 AD- Exilium gradually gains control of the majority of Borikenia through war and peaceful aquisition. In 98 AD the Senate of Exilium gives an ultimatum to the remaining free Caciques to join the Republic or be eliminated. All join and their families join the Senatorial families.
108 AD- Several Roman trade posts have been established throughout the Lesser Antilles and on the isles of Keskia (Hispaniola).
110 AD- Marcus Cornelius conquers the island of Guadelupe with soldiers from the Cornelian family. The island is added to the Republic is completly owned by the Cornelian family. Several other families begin doing this, seizing small islands and ruling over them as virtual Kings. Though the majority of this happens in the Lesser Antilles, some of the newer families carve out enclaves in Keskia and eventually the northern coast of Australia (South America, specifically Venezuela) and lower Hesperia (North America, specifically southern Central America).
141 AD- Consul Lucius Licinius Avitus is declared dictator by the Senate of Exilium after the sack of the Roman city Noviomagus (Santo Domingo) by a Aboriginal league. The Legion and several Senatorial cohorts land near the cities ruins and advance into the interior. The campaign lasts until 147 AD when the last resistance on the island fails. In response a league is established on the island of Kuibia (Cuba).
. Oh and ignore my previous map.62 AD- Nero gives Seneca the choice of suicide or finding the new world Seneca believed to be across the sea. Seneca departs with 5 ships, though only three make it to the land across the sea. Among the nearly 300 hundred men who arrive in the New World are scribes, political dissidents, debtors, former soldiers, and various tradesmen. They also bring 45 sheep, 12 oxen and 3 bulls.
The Romans land near OTL San Juan, Puerto Rico where they build the fortified village of Exilium, city of the exiles. They name the island Borikenia after the native name for the isle. The natives are generaly friendly, especially with the new tools the newcomers bring but the seeds of greed are sown.
62 to 77 AD- Exilium prospers. Trade networks across the island are set up allowing for Roman iron to become one of the most valued commodities on the island. It is this very metal that many Romans use to buy there own wives.
The city grows slowly at first but soon the population swells as immigrants, slaves, and creole children begin to appear. The first governemnt is very rudimentary with Seneca nomially in charge but most decisions made by a simple majority vote. Though by the late 70's a Roman style republic is established.
77 AD- The native Cacique Agüeybana and his allies attack Exilium and are routed. Exilium seizes the lands of the hostile Caciques and enslaves most of the population, though most of the females end up as Roman wives.
77-100 AD- Exilium gradually gains control of the majority of Borikenia through war and peaceful aquisition. In 98 AD the Senate of Exilium gives an ultimatum to the remaining free Caciques to join the Republic or be eliminated. All join and their families join the Senatorial families.
108 AD- Several Roman trade posts have been established throughout the Lesser Antilles and on the isles of Keskia (Hispaniola).
110 AD- Marcus Cornelius conquers the island of Guadelupe with soldiers from the Cornelian family. The island is added to the Republic is completly owned by the Cornelian family. Several other families begin doing this, seizing small islands and ruling over them as virtual Kings. Though the majority of this happens in the Lesser Antilles, some of the newer families carve out enclaves in Keskia and eventually the northern coast of Australia (South America, specifically Venezuela) and lower Hesperia (North America, specifically southern Central America).
141 AD- Consul Lucius Licinius Avitus is declared dictator by the Senate of Exilium after the sack of the Roman city Noviomagus (Santo Domingo) by a Aboriginal league. The Legion and several Senatorial cohorts land near the cities ruins and advance into the interior. The campaign lasts until 147 AD when the last resistance on the island fails. In response a league is established on the island of Kuibia (Cuba).
12 oxen and 3 bulls? An ox is a castrated bull. Not much breeding potential there...Justin Green said:
What about a Coloseum in Amercia only this one is full of water filled woth things like pirahnas(From South America),Alligators,Hippios,and Crocodiles
DominusNovus said:
Ohh shit! Thank oyu for pointing that out. So it should be 12 heffers right?
lol, heifers work, or just cows (heifers are younger and haven't been bred).Justin Green said: