Rising of Darkness : What if The Ottoman Empire won the Balkan war

BlondieBC

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I didn't know there was an ATL called Decade of Darkness:)
The PoD is that the Balkan League lost the first Balkan war.
Is it realistic?

It is one of the more famous ATL here, but has been dead for a while now. The South wins the ACW, things go their way for decades, and they are not very nice. I think the title is actually "Decades of Darkness".

https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/decades-of-darkness.8170/

Edit: The POD looks fine to me, but I don't really great with the Balkan wars.
 
I didn't know there was an ATL called Decade of Darkness:)
The PoD is that the Balkan League lost the first Balkan war.
Is it realistic?

Not really. No way the Ottomans could have won the First Balkan War. By winning, the Ottomans are even more fucked. (You know, Sick Man of Europe.)
 
The Austrians helped them.

And even then, the Ottomans would have collapsed, and run off.

EVERYONE wanting something from the Ottomans. (UK, Russia, France, Italy.)

You are making the Ottomans lives very much worst by trying to stay in the Balkans, and winning.
 
And even then, the Ottomans would have collapsed, and run off.

EVERYONE wanting something from the Ottomans. (UK, Russia, France, Italy.)

You are making the Ottomans lives very much worst by trying to stay in the Balkans, and winning.
I know,they probably won't stay in the Balkans for much longer.What do you think should happen?
 
Got to remember what the Ottomans had a habit of doing , the rather public massacre of Christians. It tends to mean that the UK ends up in a position it cannot support the Ottomans, they also would not support Germany and would support France (unless the HSF is somehow butterflied that is ). Unfortunately this means the OTL alliances would have a tendency to reform as you have not done anything that would act as a POD on why they formed.
 
Got to remember what the Ottomans had a habit of doing , the rather public massacre of Christians. It tends to mean that the UK ends up in a position it cannot support the Ottomans, they also would not support Germany and would support France (unless the HSF is somehow butterflied that is ). Unfortunately this means the OTL alliances would have a tendency to reform as you have not done anything that would act as a POD on why they formed.
I will ,make new alliances(I hope they will be realistic)
 
Got to remember what the Ottomans had a habit of doing , the rather public massacre of Christians. It tends to mean that the UK ends up in a position it cannot support the Ottomans, they also would not support Germany and would support France (unless the HSF is somehow butterflied that is ). Unfortunately this means the OTL alliances would have a tendency to reform as you have not done anything that would act as a POD on why they formed.

I will ,make new alliances(I hope they will be realistic)

And Austria won't look good at all supporting a state that likes to massacre Christians publicly.
 
The Ottomans could easily have won the First Balkan War. They need to end the war with Italy quickly, not demobilize their Macedonian troops, buy a few naval vessels (ten destroyers would do wonders) and presto- the Balkan league is crushed

I like the basic outline. Not where I would go on somethings but its your timeline. Flow it where you want it to go. Suggestions are just that: suggestions
 
The Ottomans could easily have won the First Balkan War. They need to end the war with Italy quickly, not demobilize their Macedonian troops, buy a few naval vessels (ten destroyers would do wonders) and presto- the Balkan league is crushed

I like the basic outline. Not where I would go on somethings but its your timeline. Flow it where you want it to go. Suggestions are just that: suggestions
Thanks,I am glad that you like it.What do you think about the Balkan Union?
 
I don't know if anyone will vote for something else,but this was my idea-The union forms after they are defeated,so that they can defend themselves from other countries and it won't stay forever-it will stay until the Balkan nations get their lands from the Ottomans.
 
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The Ottomans deliberately spent a lot of effort on trying to make the various ethnic groups in the Balkans hate each other. Its a given that any unity will be due to fear of an outside force and fall apart when the need is removed. The only variable is how acrimonious the breakup will be.
 
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