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Now, does the new Chapter make sense? Is it realistic? As always, questions, comments, and suggestions are welcome.
Rise of Axum: A Timeline
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Now, does the new Chapter make sense? Is it realistic? As always, questions, comments, and suggestions are welcome.
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Now, does the new Chapter make sense? Is it realistic? As always, questions, comments, and suggestions are welcome.
Yeah, it is fairly realistic. The wank principles do apply, but at least the setting is very original.
Well, sure but without those I wouldn't have as much to right about. Now, who wants to see the Roman empire fall apart 50 years ahead of schedule? There are so many variables with all of the migratory tribes-setting-up-kingdoms that the world map could look very different. Anyway, Stilcho might be a little bolder in this timeline.I LOVE IT!!!
Yeah, it is fairly realistic. The wank principles do apply, but at least the setting is very original.
I would have thought that the Persians would have gotten more of the Levant.
If Axum has Jerusalem, that's a great PR move, but Persia surely wants the ex-Phoenician ports of Lebanon, which I don't think they have here?
If Axum has Jerusalem, that's a great PR move, but Persia surely wants the ex-Phoenician ports of Lebanon, which I don't think they have here?
They left to campaign in Armenia when the peace treaty was signed, so they only got the province they took with their army. That could be a potential point of conflict later.
Ah... Sort of 'uti posseditis'? I would have thought that Axum and Persia might have considered trading conquered bits, so Persia could get GOOD ports. But 1) maybe they don't have anything they want to trade, and 2) maybe I'm over-exagerating the importance of the Lebanese ports. I have no idea what kind of ports were available in the land the Persians took.
Neither do I, the map was a bit hastily drawn. The Syrians did get Antioch I believe, and they woudln't be particularly interested in Jerusalem at this point. Those particulars weren't really something I had thought much about.
Where next?
Great job on this! Keep up the excellent work...will be constantly checking back!!!
Will Axum go adventuring into central and southern Africa?
Great job on this! Keep up the excellent work...will be constantly checking back!!!
Will Axum go adventuring into central and southern Africa?
Those areas of Africa were populated by primitive tribes during this time period. Axum will for the most part expand where the money is, though I assure you eventually they will turn south (if this timeline makes it that far). Oh and that reminds me, I should probably start working on the next installment.
What about missionaries? To at least "civilize" some of those tribes? Slave trade perhaps? I'm not too well-versed on central African kingdoms...were there any worth mentioning at the time we're at in this timeline? Any who might prove a tempting target?
I hope it keeps going! A few have already said, and I'll say again, this is a fairly unique timeline!!! Kudos!
Looking forward to the next...
The only other one I know of at this time is Ghana, which was in Western Africa.What about missionaries? To at least "civilize" some of those tribes? Slave trade perhaps? I'm not too well-versed on central African kingdoms...were there any worth mentioning at the time we're at in this timeline? Any who might prove a tempting target?
I hope it keeps going! A few have already said, and I'll say again, this is a fairly unique timeline!!! Kudos!
Looking forward to the next...
Part VI: 405-450
In India, the Gupta Empire expanded to cover the entire northern subcontinent and the Kingdom of Vakatas expanded to cover all of central India. Emperor Ouazebas sent an envoy to establish relations with the new kingdoms. In the meantime, axumite traders began to shift their focus to southern India. Trade outposts were also established further down the African coast, which would become important later in Axum’s history.
In Europe, Germanic tribes were being driven west by the presence of the Hun Empire. Many of these tribes began to encroach on Western Rome. Honorius’s top advisor and general, Stilicho managed to outmaneuver the court in Ravenna for a time, smashing the Ostrogoths led by Alaric in Illyria but in the end was not able to stop the flood of refugees.
Over the next fifty years, western Rome would continue to lose land to barbarian tribes. The Vandals established a kingdom in Southern and Western Gaul, the Visigoths established a Kingdom in northern Africa, the Visigoths stayed in Northern Illyria, and the Suebi rose up in Hispania, taking the western portion of Iberia. All of Britain was abandoned to Germanic tribes. This was also a time of civilization of Saharan tribes. The Moors established a kingdom in North Western Africa, the Austoriani to their east, and the Laguantan people bordering Egypt to the west.
In the Eastern Roman Empire, Anastasius proved a strong ruler, quickly subjugating the imperial court in Constantinople. Despite this, the eastern empire had been dealt a serious blow, robbed of their grain-producing regions and signifigantly reduced in manpower and gold as barbarian hordes threatened their borders and rose within.
This was also the time of the Attila the Hun, who established a loose empire across the north Eastern Europe. It was his hordes that forced all of the Germanic tribes into Rome, though the Huns caused problems of their own. In 444, they faced Anastasius in battle outside of Constantinople. The battle was a pyrrhic victory for the Romans, who forced the Huns to retreat, but destroyed what was left of the eastern empire’s standing army. Two years later, they were forced to pay massive tribute.
In Axum, King Ouazebas died of natural causes when he was fifty-seven in 438. He died childless, unaible to produce children, allowing his brother Aphilas to ascend to the crown of the Negusa Nagast. He unified the crowns of Axum and Egypt, firmly establishing the Empire’s role on the world stage. He later ordered an expedition up the Red Sea and into Arabia, conquering the Kingdom of Nabataea and forcing the Ghassanids into vassalage.
Aphilas married and had one male child; Loel, who was thirty-seven at the time of his father’s death in 450. This would be the first time since before Ezana that a triumvirate rule would not be necessary after the death of a previous Emperor.
Nicely done!
Nice update, Yelnoc! A pleasure to read as always!!!
What kind of infrastructure does the empire have to date? Have there been any major works programs initiated, perhaps on par with what Rome had done with roads and public works? Ways to unite the growing area of Axumite rule or spread Axumite culture to the foreign areas it has conquered? Empires love to build monuments to themselves, and I would imagine that Axum is no different!!!
Looking forward to the next addition when you get the chance! This timeline is an extremely interesting one!
Nice update, Yelnoc! A pleasure to read as always!!!
What kind of infrastructure does the empire have to date? Have there been any major works programs initiated, perhaps on par with what Rome had done with roads and public works? Ways to unite the growing area of Axumite rule or spread Axumite culture to the foreign areas it has conquered? Empires love to build monuments to themselves, and I would imagine that Axum is no different!!!
Looking forward to the next addition when you get the chance! This timeline is an extremely interesting one!
looking at the map and seeing how much land Axum controls, I wonder of the demographics...any ideas on the respective populations of Axum, Egypt, Arabia and Palestine?> Seems that axum might be spread pretty thin, trying to control a neighboring land with many more people...
Also, how proselytizing are the axumites? are they spreading their religion with their conquests?
I would think that Egypt would influence Axum much more than the other way around, sorta like the barbarians invading china then becoming chinese themselves...is this going to happen here?
great tl keep it up
Also, how proselytizing are the axumites? are they spreading their religion with their conquests?
I would think that Egypt would influence Axum much more than the other way around, sorta like the barbarians invading china then becoming chinese themselves...is this going to happen here?
great tl keep it up
The Empire's infrastructure is based mainly on water travel, with the Red Sea and the Nile River and its tributaries being the main forms of transportation over long distances. Roads are not as advanced as their roman counterparts and generally link major cities. Former Pagan kings erected large obelisks. Ezana did away with that practice, however he did erect a massive symbolic thrown in nubia. I suppose the great damn in Yemen could be considered a functional monument.Nice update, Yelnoc! A pleasure to read as always!!!
What kind of infrastructure does the empire have to date? Have there been any major works programs initiated, perhaps on par with what Rome had done with roads and public works? Ways to unite the growing area of Axumite rule or spread Axumite culture to the foreign areas it has conquered? Empires love to build monuments to themselves, and I would imagine that Axum is no different!!!
Looking forward to the next addition when you get the chance! This timeline is an extremely interesting one!
I don't know of specific figures, though I believe that Eypt's population is much higher than that of Axum Proper. A bonus of the axumite government is that the Emperor's actually title is the Negusta Nagast, which translated into english means King of Kings. He personally rules Axum Proper while another "King" governs the other provinces. The appointment of a "King" is usually political, to keep the populance in check. There have been some rebellions, but none have major enough consequences to be detailed in this timeline (though I should have put a mention of general unrest). However, Egypt and the Levant were chafing under Roman rule. Their version of Christianity is much more similiar to the Ethiopian Church then the Imperial Church, which should go a ways towards appeasing the general populance.
Egypt will definately have a large influence on Axum. For instance, the Ethiopian Church will probably be renaimed the Coptic church to make the average Egyptian happier. Egypt will be a major player in Axumite politics and a major cultural center. I have thought about moving the capital to an Egyptian city, though don't count on it.
I will make a map to show. The kingdoms are basically provinces with a degree of autonomy, which will be necessary to hold together such a large empire but could prove a huge headache for the Negusa Nagast.