Right Side Up: A History of the Space Transportation System

Since this is a S-IVC with a J-2S, it theoretical could use it's engine for de-orbit the stage,
The J-2S has restart option and can use remaining fuel and gases from the tanks,
Alternative the S-IVC could use similar Reaction Control System, like S-IVB mot only to stabilized the Stage in flight but also to de-orbit the stage after use.
a hundred m/s would be adequate.

Considering, (IIRC) that part of the direction for making the S-IV into a "cheap-Chinese-copy" expendable was off-loading/reducing the avionics of the stage it may be that without the 'payload/upper-stage' the stage can't actually perform a burn anyway. (IOW the 'brains' are in the payload and the stage no longer has the capacity to perform maneuver with onboard equipment) In which case it's basically 'uncontrolled' once detached from the payload.

Randy
 

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I really, really like this TL premise - first, because the flyback S-IC would have been one hell of a flying machine, kind of 747 flying at X-15 speed. But of course the flyback S-IC by himself would go nowhere since it was a far cry from orbit. I like the way you get ride of that issue by mixing the S-IVB with Flax small glider.

You are not the only one interested in the shuttle flyback booster.
Look at this
http://spaceflighthistory.blogspot.fr/2016/12/dreaming-different-apollo-part-five.html

Secondly, I think the flyback S-IC economics and flight rate will be interesting to watch - could it lower space transportation by some order of magnitude and suceed where OTL shuttle failed miserably ?

The 1971 shuttle boondoggle with OMB, Flax, NASA and Mathematica cat-and-mouse game is truly fascinating. I did some extensive research for Explorers and I'd say, it remains the TL part I like most.

By the way did you read John Logsdon "After Apollo" book that was published in 2015 ? I wish I could have it when I wrote my TL back in 2008-2013.
https://www.amazon.com/After-Apollo-American-Palgrave-Technology/dp/1137438525
Logsdon mentions Big Gemini only in passing, a couple of times.
 
Chapter 4: Crawling
“One thing Skylab taught is that we should glance back from time to time to avoid old mistakes and gain inspiration from old successes. But to move forward into the future, we don’t need to revive the past.”


Chapter 4: Crawling


Bathed in the light of a dozen xenon arc lamps, MLP-3, bearing atop it the Launch Umbilical Tower and the 30-story-tall Shuttle stack, began its journey out to the launch pad hours before dawn. Engineers and technicians walked with it out to the pad, easily matching the ponderous pace of the nearly 8,000 tonne stack. Smoky diesel exhaust trailed out of the Crawler’s vents, as the four 1 MW engines labored to drive the massive tracks that distributed the vehicle’s weight across the sandy crawlerway and kept it from sinking into the soft Florida soil. It was a routine that the engineers had practiced many times on earlier flights, and on Apollo and Skylab before them, and planned to practice many times again. But, given the payload of this flight, there was understandably more attention to detail—not one nut out of place that anyone on the ground could see.

Hours passed. The sun’s light reached over the horizon, reflecting off the undersides of distant clouds to cast orange light onto the Vehicle Assembly Building and then the stack. Then, like a rocket engine reaching full thrust, the sun itself crossed the horizon, and the light of the xenon lamps was drowned in a much brighter glare.

At last, shortly after dawn, the stack reached LC-39A, and the crawler deposited the 5,000-tonne pad, tower, and vehicle combination on the raised concrete foundation. Then it drove back to the VAB—its job was not yet done, for there was still the Mobile Servicing Structure to bring over, the tall gray tower whose platforms gave technicians access to the vehicle as it stood on the pad. Another hour and a half to drive back to the MSS, another hour and a half to bring it over to LC-39A. By the time the crawler’s job was done, dawn had given way to a beautiful Florida morning.

Launch was still several days off—now came the time for final check-out, as each spacecraft component was put through its last ground tests. Telemetry was checked, temperatures on major components were inspected, radio tests were performed, and technicians made last-minute inspections inside the cockpits of each vehicle to make sure nothing had changed between stacking and arrival at the pad.

An alarm went off—the fill test of the S-IVC had revealed a leaky hydrogen line in the interstage. There was a buildup of hydrogen gas in the interstage—dangerous enough on its own, but in close proximity to two oxygen tanks, it was worse. The test was terminated immediately, the tanks given time to vent, and technicians opened access panels around the base of the stage to inspect. Could the lines be repaired on-site? That was the preferred option—rolling back to the VAB was a time-consuming nuisance. But if the problem was severe enough, the vehicle would have to be de-stacked, and the stage either repaired or—heaven forbid! thought the launch operations director—replaced with a new S-IVC, costing even more time.

Luckily, the McDonnell-Douglas technicians were able to isolate the problem and correct it. The test was repeated less than a day later, with no apparent hydrogen build-up. The tests continued, each system checked out properly, and the launch operations director allowed himself the luxury of optimism—perhaps this first mission of the Shuttle would go off on-time!

Alas, a new issue came up, one which all the technicians at the Cape were powerless to solve. NOAA and the USAF both warned about a line of severe thunderstorms crossing Florida. In normal circumstances, the stack would have remained on the pad—the lightning rods surrounding it would protect it from electrical disturbances, and the Booster was durable enough to take a little hail. But the Orbiter, with its exposed tile thermal protection, was an unknown variable. Putting it at risk to save a few days was out of the question—the director reluctantly ordered a full rollback to the safety of the cavernous VAB.

At times like this, he thought as he finished his morning coffee while monitoring the rollback, he regretted that White Sands had not been chosen as the main Shuttle launch site.

When the storms cleared, the dance of the lumbering giants was repeated, and the Space Shuttle stack finally occupied the pad again on July 21, 1980.



As each of the major STS contracts was assigned, the prime contractors began the monumental task of developing and testing a reusable spacecraft system. Though not quite as complex and uncharted a task as the Apollo program, the Space Transportation System gave its contractors and program heads a great deal of grief before its first operational flights. The process began in 1972, with the awarding of the contracts for the Booster and Interim Upper Stage vehicles. These were the best-characterized of the three main STS components, and so metal-cutting could begin on them long before the Orbiter was ready.

The S-IVC was the most straightforward component. During the selection process for the Space Lifter upper stage, Douglas had proposed a number of changes to the S-IVB much more extreme than a simple stretch. Some of these changes, like the shift from internal tile-based insulation to external spray-on insulation, stemmed from the experience acquired by the American aerospace industry by building three different stages that used cryogenic hydrogen for Project Apollo. Each of the three different cryogenic stages developed in the 1960s--Centaur, S-II, and S-IV/S-IVB--used wildly different construction techniques. Centaur was a pressure-stabilized stainless steel balloon--without constant pressurization, the stage would collapse under its own weight (as the closely-related Atlas stage collapsed during preparation for the launch of Mariner 6 in 1969), with four external insulation panels and two RL-10 engines. S-II and S-IVB used much more conventional construction techniques, at the cost of greater weight, and used the much more potent J-2 engines. The S-IVB stage used a complicated system of custom-made tiles to insulate its liquid hydrogen tank, which had to be applied to the inside of the tank in a time-consuming process. The S-II had originally been designed to use a honeycomb-panel insulation system, with large sections of insulation secured to the outer surface, but the extreme cold of cryogenic hydrogen had a tendency to liquefy air pockets trapped between the insulation and the rocket, weakening the bond and causing panels to fall loose. The helium-based purge system North American introduced never worked very well, and, starting with the S-II stage for Apollo 13, the company shifted to a spray-on insulation that eliminated bonding agents and air pockets entirely.

Douglas’s engineers were very well-aware of these changes even as the Apollo program wound down, and incorporated many of the design innovations from S-II and Centaur into their proposals for S-IVC. The intricate tile-based insulation would be thrown out in favor of spray-on foam, and control software developed for Centaur to enable navigation in less-than-ideal weather would be adapted to the Saturn Instrument Unit. The loss of J-2 engines on two separate Saturn V launches led them to propose the addition of a second J-2S-2 on the S-IVC, producing a stage that came to resemble a gigantic Centaur. Though they (and Rocketdyne) argued vigorously that the second engine on each stage increased redundancy while also offering economies of scale in engine production, NASA’s focus on mission costs led to the S-IVC proposal scaling back to one J-2S-2 per stage. Thus, the final S-IVC involved little of the originally planned new technologies. Even its upgraded J-2S engine, with the exception of the proposed new nozzle, had already seen the test stand before the end of the Apollo program in December of 1972. Its challenges were more in the field of logistics and cost-control. McDonnell-Douglas worked diligently to implement the cost-cutting measures of the “Chinese Copy” plan, reducing handling and increasing automation. Though it lacked the missile-manufacturing experience of rivals like Martin Marietta and Convair, McDonnell-Douglas adapted several automation techniques used in its airliner business to the S-IVC, more-or-less achieving the manufacturing cost savings it had planned for. After some internal argument, the company elected to mothball its own Sacramento test site rather than upgrade it to handle the S-IVC, and trust in Rocketdyne to supply functional J-2S-2 engines. Test-firings of the fully-assembled S-IVC would be performed only at Stennis Space Center.

A greater headache was actually transporting the stage from Huntington Beach, California to Cape Canaveral. The S-IVC’s stretched length left it too long to fit inside any of the Guppy-derived aircraft NASA had preferred for S-IVB delivery. Though Douglas had barged some S-IVBs in the 1960s, they did not relish the long travel times that that approach required. Furthermore, in recognition of the fact that Shuttle was supposed to fly at least a dozen times per year, it was necessary to be able to have S-IVC stages ready to mount on a Space Lifter at any time, in case there was some anomaly that required swapping-out stages, or a time-critical emergency payload. McDonnell-Douglas and NASA ultimately invested in a new, larger barge, which could carry four S-IVC stages at a time through the Panama Canal or to Vandenburg Air Force Base, allowing either launch site to maintain a surplus of upper stages at any time. The first S-IVC test stage was fired in 1977 at Stennis Space Center, and was then sent on to Marshall Space Flight Center for storage in case it was required for an accident investigation.

The Space Lifter was the single largest and heaviest component of the Space Transportation System, and the one with the strictest reliability requirements. Unlike the Orbiter, which would fly only a fraction of the total STS missions, and the S-IVC, which did not always carry a crew, the Space Lifter had to succeed at its goal for both mission success and astronaut survival. NASA thus required an extensive testing program, including piloted abort missions and one destructive test to verify the operation of the escape pod. In order to streamline development and get to flight-testing sooner, Boeing engineers at Marshall Space Flight Center converted several remaining S-IC test articles into RS-IC test articles, retrofitting them with wings, landing gear, and (initially) dummy flight decks. The first prototype (RS-IC-F), formerly the fit-test S-IC that debuted at Cape Canaveral in 1966, was retrofitted at Marshall and rolled out of its hangar there in June of 1975, rolling down to the Tennessee River for barging down to Stennis Space Center and on to Kennedy and Vandenburg for fit-tests. This one lacked a functional flight deck, but conveyed the overall dimensions of the vehicle well enough for that task.

1974 saw the first major redesign to the Space Lifter--the elimination of the retracting nose and addition of a disposable shroud between the Booster and the upper stage. In the near-hypersonic flight regime of the Space Lifter during descent, a failure of the nose to extend would lead to catastrophic stagnation of airflow in the confined area of the nose--which would cause immense heating in the unshielded interior of the spacecraft. Computational Fluid Dynamics testing, performed on the finest computers available at the time painted (metaphorically--graphical outputs were beyond their capabilities) a grim picture, with loss-of-vehicle in almost every failed retraction scenario. Boeing could not guarantee a failure-proof hydraulic or spring-loaded extension mechanism, and so opted for a triple-redundant pyrotechnic bolt to jettison a traditional interstage over a smooth, fixed nose. The cavernous volume of the Space Lifter’s nose would vex Boeing engineers for years after this decision--it cried out for utilization, for extra propellant tanks or other efficient use, but issues with mass distribution and changes of mass in flight precluded that. It fell to an enterprising young woman with NASA’s Education Office to propose the Student Suborbital Experiment Bay, which has carried hundreds of experiments from High School and University students past the Karman Line and exposed them to microgravity for several minutes at a time.

The first Booster actually destined for flight, RS-IC-601, actually rolled off the assembly line on June 17, 1976. RS-IC-601 went on a cross-country tour at the end of June, visiting several major civilian airports, culminating in a landing at Washington National Airport on July 4, where, in celebration of the American Bicentennial, President Ford christened her “Independence.” Still without functional rocket engines (indeed, still without quite a few of the systems that would get her ready for suborbital flight), she was put through a subsonic and then low-supersonic flight-test program to verify low-speed handling and the ability of the spacecraft to successfully navigate to a landing. Ken Mattingly, who commanded the Atmospheric Test Flights, had few kind things to say about the vehicle’s performance--”It’s like flying a brick,” he complained. But it did the job it had to do.

While all seemed well with the Booster, the Orbiter’s comparatively advanced technologies, particularly the lifting-body shape and tile-based thermal protection system, gave North American’s engineers no end of headaches. By the end of 1976, it had become apparent that the Orbiter would not be ready in time for its planned 1978 debut. As NASA prepared for the imminent change in administrations, this was very unwelcome news, but would have been a mere nuisance were it not for the publication, in 1977, by NOAA of solar activity predictions that predicted severe heating in the upper atmosphere. NORAD quickly followed up with a prediction that the Skylab space station, which had been quiescent in orbit since 1973, would reenter, not in 1981 as expected, but in 1979.

NASA had planned to reboost Skylab with an early Shuttle mission, to test out the rendezvous and docking capability of the Orbiter, to demonstrate attachment of the Reboost Module from the payload bay to Skylab’s docking port, and to obtain samples of a vehicle left in space for over half a decade. But between the delays on the Orbiter and the imminent demise of Skylab, these plans seemed to be going down in flames.

1977 thus saw a frenzy of mission planning at every major NASA center, as options were evaluated for saving Skylab by somehow advancing the Space Transportation System’s schedule. These ranged from the semi-plausible (reconfiguring one of the launch pads at Cape Canaveral to fly a Saturn IB/Apollo spacecraft, which by this point would have to be taken back from the museums to which they’d been handed) to the uncertainly safe (flying Space Lifter with an Apollo spacecraft as a payload, without going through NASA’s planned suborbital and abort test regime) to the expensive (flying a Space Lifter unmanned as in a conventional Saturn V mission, with an Apollo payload and dumping the booster into the ocean) to the downright bizarre (one proposal suggested using surplus Gemini spacecraft launched off a Titan II pad to reboost Skylab). There also emerged at this time a proposal to launch Skylab B, which had been handed over to the National Air and Space Museum but not yet fully “decommissioned” for museum display, but this proposal was perhaps the most expensive of all.

Ultimately, budget overruns on the Orbiter and lack of attention from President Carter meant that each of these proposals was simply more expensive than Skylab, decrepit and aged, was deemed to be worth. NASA planners expected that, once both were flying, development funds could be spent on a more mature Skylab follow-on, one that would meet the desires of the Apollo Applications Program planners in the late 1960s (memoranda circulated at Ames Research Center, for example, proposed modifying an S-IVC into a tumbling artificial gravity experiment--long a goal of the 1960s). When measured against the need to make sure Shuttle was completed and the possibilities the 1980s yet held, Skylab was found wanting. All the same, the loss of a station that still seemed, to many researchers, perfectly viable left a bad taste in many mouths, and contributed to an unnecessary amount of bureaucratic infighting over the experimental Space Stations of the 1980s.

1977 came and went without funds for Skylab. As that year progressed, Independence was outfitted with more equipment necessary for flight testing, and her sister ship, RS-IC-602 Constitution joined her in the testing fleet. They were briefly joined by an unnamed vehicle, numbered RS-IC-599, whose purpose was to fly the Suborbital Escape Pod Demonstration Test. This mission would see the stage, carrying a dummy second stage and payload, fly unmanned, with crash-test dummies lined with accelerometers occupying the seats in the flight deck. After staging, the flight deck would be jettisoned, to test the ability of the escape pod to recover the crew safely in the event of a suborbital bail-out. The escape pod had to be a spacecraft in its own right, with a closed environment and its own heat shield and landing system for oceanic splashdown.

September 28, 1977 saw the launch of this officially-unnamed vehicle (though photos released after launch revealed that pad technicians from either Boeing, Grumman, or NASA had chalked the words “Sacrificial Lamb” under the cockpit windscreen), and the first use of the escape pod in flight. The flight deck splashed down about 150 km downrange of Kennedy Space Center, and was recovered by the US Coast Guard for analysis. The dummies were no worse for wear, though the accelerometers revealed a painful 8-G reentry. Better bruised than broiled, though--actual astronauts would have survived that flight. The name inscribed in chalk, sadly, was nowhere to be found--either scorched off on ascent, during reentry, or washed off in seawater. With the flight of the escape pod, the Space Lifter was deemed man-rated.

Sacrificial Lamb continued her flight after the loss of her flight deck, continuing on automated commands to reenter without a deceleration burn. Heavily instrumented, she transmitted her condition to Boeing and NASA researchers eager to study the effects of hypersonic reentry on such a large vehicle. They hoped against hope that she’d make it down to the ocean for recovery, but sadly this was not to be. Partial telemetry was tracked by US Navy and Coast Guard assets standing by after the main portion of entry, but maximum temperatures were close to the failure limits of aluminum structures. With no pilot at the controls, what might have been chancy for a human was outright impossible. The breakup of the Lamb at Mach 4 was recorded by US Navy radar and relayed back to NASA--setting a record for the fastest recorded glider accident.

October 12, 1977, saw the first manned launch of the Space Lifter Independence, on a suborbital demo flight, carrying a dummy second stage (loaded with liquid hydrogen, to simulate the proper weight distribution) and a dummy payload. The mission proceeded without a hitch--at 180 seconds into the flight, the engines shut down, and pyrotechnic bolts jettisoned the dummy payload, which was destroyed by range safety officers after the Booster’s deceleration burn. Entering the atmosphere at 1.5 km/s, Commander John Young and his Copilot, Dr. Story Musgrave, piloted Independence to a safe landing at the Shuttle Landing Facility at Kennedy Space Center. STS-A, the first manned test flight of the Shuttle system, was complete.

1978 saw the first orbital test flight of the Space Lifter stack, when STS-B, crewed by Ken Mattingly and William Thornton flew Constitution with a functional S-IVC upper stage. During this flight on March 19, they delivered an inert 40,000 kg mass simulator into a very low orbit. After a single orbital pass to confirm parking orbit accuracy with ground radars, the SIV-C reignited to lower its orbit and dump the dummy payload into the ocean. In addition to mitigating debris, this proved the ability to relight the S-IVC for additional burns in space on geostationary launches. The successful orbital test briefly renewed hopes that Skylab could yet be recovered, but the time necessary to restore an Apollo CSM to working order and train a crew for the task was deemed too great.

After this, as NASA worked to prepare the Shuttle’s actual satellite payloads for flight in 1979, the rest of 1978 was spent going through abort scenarios with inert upper stages. STS-C, -D, and -E went through abort scenarios designed with recovery of the Booster, if not the payload, in mind--the first, simulating engine failure close to the end of the Booster’s ascent, was the most benign. The second, conversely, was the most hazardous--engine shutdown at maximum dynamic pressure, the point where aerodynamic stresses on the stack were maximized. This profile called for ignition of the jet engines during ascent, allowing the stage to coast up past the jettisoned upper stage and payload, until the vehicle came down to a manageable flight regime, while the upper stage fell into the Atlantic. Finally, STS-E demonstrated a partial engine shutdown--loss of an outboard engine during ascent. The loss was compensated by shutdown of the engine across from it, giving the vehicle enough thrust to continue ascent to a safe jettison point, but not enough to successfully complete the mission.

With the completion of the Suborbital and Abort Test Program, Space Transportation System missions switched from assigned letters to flights to assigning numbers. STS-1 was scheduled for early 1979, the first operational flight of the Space Lifter stack, albeit without an Orbiter.
 
Its launch cost, at $18.6 Million (1971 dollars--see attached breakdown), is an order-of-magnitude reduction from the costs of the Saturn V, while still retaining the ability to launch almost half the total payload.

I'll be interested to see how much NASA undershoots launch costs with this shuttle.
 
How much does the vehicle weigh? I know the MLP weighed 5,000 tons with an unfueled OTL shuttle stack (including the SRBs). Also, are the glider and the S-IVC mounted on the nose of the S-IC or on the back? I'm wondering how the stack can be 300 feet tall without something going on the front of the Space Lifter. I can't see the Space Lifter itself being much longer than 180 feet unless it's been really stretched, which would obviously be both difficult and expensive.
 
Ultimately, budget overruns on the Orbiter and lack of attention from President Carter meant that each of these proposals was simply more expensive than Skylab, decrepit and aged, was deemed to be worth. NASA planners expected that, once both were flying, development funds could be spent on a more mature Skylab follow-on, one that would meet the desires of the Apollo Applications Program planners in the late 1960s (memoranda circulated at Ames Research Center, for example, proposed modifying an S-IVC into a tumbling artificial gravity experiment--long a goal of the 1960s). When measured against the need to make sure Shuttle was completed and the possibilities the 1980s yet held, Skylab was found wanting. All the same, the loss of a station that still seemed, to many researchers, perfectly viable left a bad taste in many mouths, and contributed to an unnecessary amount of bureaucratic infighting over the experimental Space Stations of the 1980s.

This is the most plausible outcome, honestly.

All the plans to salvage Skylab in OTL had a certain far-fetched aspect to them. Skylab did well for what it was designed for - a limited lifespan testbed for manned LEO space stations. It would have been more trouble and expense than it was worth to make it into something more.

No, if I have a lament, it's for the waste of Skylab B, not Skylab A. Because Skylab B could have been modified into something much more useful. Of course, that means saving one of the spare Saturn V's to launch it, as was done in Eyes Turned Skywards. Instead, it ended up as a gigantic exhibit at the Air & Space Museum.
 
...Entering the atmosphere at 1.5 km/s, Commander John Young and his Copilot, Dr. Story Musgrave, piloted Independence to a safe landing at the Shuttle Landing Facility at Kennedy Space Center. STS-A, the first manned test flight of the Shuttle system, was complete.

Is 1500 m/sec then the target speed at which atmospheric drag becomes effective? When I look at basic delta-V of a first stage loaded considerably more heavily than I am coming to think the Lifter is designed for, I still get burnout speeds considerably higher than that, almost twice as high in fact, and of course this happens at considerable altitude as well. At Mach 5 and above I am not sure what altitude constitutes "entering the atmosphere;" depending on how depressed the trajectory is, I was not sure in past weeks that it would have properly "exited" the atmosphere at burnout. Of course it is desirable that it would, since any strong aerodynamics still happening when separation occurs would tend to create hazards. But the more altitude we allow to make the air thin enough to be a minor problem, the more potential energy the spent Lifter has, which adds to the kinetic energy of the actual motion it has to make for more airspeed down where the air is thick enough to matter. Also presumably at burnout the stack has retained some vertical climb speed, which means the Lifter will rise for a while, then fall from a still greater height, and all that kinetic energy adds to the "entering atmosphere" speed too.

It seems very clear that the Lifter has 5 engines. Maybe just 4, but 3 would be too few to be consistent with what we've been told. That gives it a scale of thrust such that a stack of nearly 4000 tons would be possible, and if the stack were a whole lot smaller, clearly it would be terribly overpowered. Guessing a weight upon reentry of 300 tons for the Lifter, and 2500 tons propellant capacity, that leaves up to 1200 tons for the upper stack--clearly, given the commitment to a single J-2S engine S-IV derivative, this overestimates the upper stack by a factor of 5 or worse! It can't even be say 300 tons if all we have is that single J engine. It may also be that I have overestimated how much propellant the Lifter is sized to carry. But slimming it down like this while retaining 5 F engines means brutally powerful accelerations, far worse than the 3 G target maximum for STS of OTL. I suppose NASA could let that slip to 5 Gs or so, but all in all I'm having a very hard time seeing how the masses and delta-V's line up in a fashion that makes a standard upper stack of under 300 tons make sense. Sure it is possible to go down that low with propellant ballasting, but why design around 5, or even 4, F engines if the system is not going to be designed for upper stacks more in the 600-1200 ton range?

Since, even with the very heavy loads I think a 5-engine Lifter ought to be meant to boost, I am getting burnout speeds a whole lot higher than 1500 meters/sec, I might suppose there is actually a whole lot less propellant than the 2500 tons I have assumed--but that means, given 5 F engines gulping down a lesser quantity of fuel, that burnout happens a lot sooner than it did with the S-I. But I still find much higher burnout velocities than 1500 m/sec.

It seems then that even on a routine, maximum payload launch, a whole lot of propellant ballasting must be happening.

I've never known the speed range that Boeing would consider desirable for effective entry, and figured it would be a lot higher than 1.5 km/sec. Obviously sustaining flight at that speed, let alone the 2.5-3 km/sec I was guessing at that is much closer to burnout speeds, is a nasty challenge; even the SR-71 does not go that fast. But the point is not to sustain flight at such speeds, but merely to survive it for a brief interval while using the high dynamic pressures associated with it to rapidly decelerate to much more reasonable speeds.

Should I take the quoted passage to indicate that 1500 m/sec, a bit under Mach 5, is the maximum speed the Lifter is designed to endure even briefly, and the speed to which propellant ballasting would need to lower it to? Whereas using the Lifter to do its job boosting the upper stack toward orbital speeds does require burnout speeds around 3000, and therefore every mission, not just low-mass ones, will involve a great deal of propellant ballasting? The maneuver was not mentioned in the post, but it need not be if in fact every launch requires it to some degree or other.
 
Wait. I'm getting confused here. Is both the Space Lifter and the Space Shuttle manned?

Yes, way back in 1970s advance Spacecrafts needed pilots, special if they had to land on a runway.
even in 1988 NASA insist that impossible to launch and landing the Space Unmanned
in 1989 the Soviet prove them wrong by sending the Buran unmanned around earth and landing it save.
i wonder will Space Lifter get fully automated toward the end of 1980s in this TL ?
 
Yes, way back in 1970s advance Spacecrafts needed pilots, special if they had to land on a runway.
even in 1988 NASA insist that impossible to launch and landing the Space Unmanned
in 1989 the Soviet prove them wrong by sending the Buran unmanned around earth and landing it save.
i wonder will Space Lifter get fully automated toward the end of 1980s in this TL ?
It would save on crew costs I suppose, and there is a safety aspect. I expect I might understand the timeline better when I have some pretty pictures/drawings to look at.
 
So, big things are happening this week. I've probably said it before, but I'll say it again: I'm really digging the format on TTL. Though the ETS format is great when planning out the whole space industry over a period of 45 years, this slow buildup works really well when talking about just one program, be it a big one. The back and forth between the 1980 launch and the history thereof is great as well.

I see several things being teased this way. Though the student experiments in the booster nose are a nice little detail, what caught my eye was the reference to 'the experimental space stations of the 1980s'. This puts me in a Salyut/Tiangong mindset. Is the US perhaps not aiming for a permanent space station just yet? Their eagerness to push Skylab to such extremes would suggest otherwise. Perhaps the availability of cheaper lift will mean that the US will order some space stations on the side, along with a large modular station. One of those could even be owned by the air force, the MOL finally realised thanks to the RS-IC!

What I'm hoping for myself here is related to another tiny tease in this week's update, namely the idea to modify an SIV-C into a tumbling artificial gravity station. This can get tricky easily of course, but it would certainly fit the definition of an 'experimental space station'. Whatever the case, I am eager to see what payloads this wonderful flyback booster will bring to orbit come the 1980s.
 
Until we have more exact information at hand, I have to confess my best attempts to understand the capabilities and limits of the first-generation Lifter have seemed to have gone badly awry. One firm fact we have to hand is that the tremendous thrust of 5 F type engines is available, which would permit a lift-off mass as high as 4000 tons! With such capability it would seem that launching many Skylab sized modules would be well within NASA's capability, as far as launch mass goes. However, as I've mentioned the 1500 m/sec speed mentioned, if this is the speed that is not to be exceeded by the Lifter reentering sensible atmosphere (a much lower altitude than the typical "80-100 km" that applies to objects entering at orbital speeds closer to 8 km/sec) then heavy propellant ballasting requirements on the most routine launches would imply much lower upper stage capabilities than the near 1000 tons a straightforward launch with typical Saturn V break points between the stages would suggest. What propellant ballasting does to launch capability is lower the fraction of propellant mass available for the launch itself. It does so by rather modest amounts, but since the velocity change the ballasting maneuver requires also represents an increase in the burn-out speed before the braking is applied, the speed the first stage much reach is raised over what we'd expect from a burn where all propellant is burned and the Lifter emptied, and that higher speed implies a higher mass ratio that, in combination with the reduction of propellant available for the boost burn, causes the mass left after burnout to plummet rather rapidly with each ton used as ballast. Since the large (if as yet unspecified) mass of the Lifter as it enters aerobraking (including its fly-back fuel supply) must be deducted from this falling total, along with the mass of the propellant needed to bring it down to acceptable entry speed, the residual mass left over for the upper stage falls rapidly to a low level, indeed to zero, with only a modest tonnage of reserve ballast propellant set aside. Therefore, the lower the never-exceed-in-sensible atmosphere entry speed is, the less capable the system is in maximum tonnage.

Thus, restricting it to speeds as low as 1500 meters/sec means that, as with OTL first stages evolving toward reusability (notably SpaceX's vertical lander strategy) the launcher has in effect greatly reduced upper stage capability. In the case of vertical landing fly-backs, this is largely because the velocity achieved downrange must be reduced and indeed largely reversed by main force of thrust, which causes a large percentage of the first stage's propellant to be reserved for this function--bearing in mind the stage must also have landing gear and a further reserve of propellant for the actual landing maneuver. Instead of reserving so much for a reversal maneuver, which after all leaves the booster stage moving at a high velocity transversely back toward the launch site, an airspeed that apparently would be damaging to a lightly built semi-conventional stage, it would be possible instead to boost much more vertically than is conventional for expendable stage launches, which puts a larger share of the job of actually achieving orbit on the upper stage instead, thus lowering its payload capability to orbit. Also of course if the booster boosts almost exclusively straight up, it will still be going very fast indeed when it enters the atmosphere again, requiring either that it be built with some TPS strategy anyway, or again use a substantial burn of reserved propellant in order to cut its speed down before the atmospheric heating rises to serious levels. Such a pre-landing burn can also serve well to correct any drift of the stage off target and position it better for landing. |

But no matter how you slice it, if designing the craft to simply tolerate the more efficient high-speed-downrange velocities of typical expendable boosters (in the ballpark of some 3 km/sec for the Saturn rockets, 1B as well as V, as I've had occasion to check earlier today) by structural means, then any sort of flyback strategy will have these similar characteristics to ballistic flyback options.

I expect sooner or later we'll be treated to an explanation of why it was not deemed more desirable to design the Lifter to tolerate a higher airspeed, typical of the efficient burnout speeds and potentials of expendables, and instead rely so very heavily on propellant ballasting for every launch in order to halve the airspeed. Since the authors are known for quality work we can presume the reasoning is very solid.

But what it means is that we have something more similar to a SpaceX type recoverable booster launch than a typical late-60s/early 70s flyback concept that would assume higher airspeeds. Thus the capability of the upper stack, at maximum, is far below what we'd expect from the huge thrust provided, I suppose now.

This jibes well with the news I got that a Saturn S-II type upper stage was out of the question. I figured earlier this was a choice of budgeting and funding, with the Lifter being designed to eventually, when the funding of Lifter development and infrastructure was in the past and the budget would allow for both bigger upper stages and payloads, for NASA to resume the occasional launch of a grandiose 80-120 or more tonne payload--were it not for the speed limit on the Lifter I am inferring, I figure it could go as high as 180 tons per launch! Thus NASA could be optimistically "planning" on really magnificent space stations for the mid and later 1980s, as a PR foot in the door of future Congresses that might bow to pressure of big contractors salivating over such schemes. Thus, NASA has no money in the 1970s to continue the contract for S-II stages, but hopes a decade or so hence to order a clean-sheet version, indeed even for one much bigger still than the S-II, and by then general advances in tech would mean conserving the exact design provided by IIRC Convair/General Dynamics in the 60s would not make much sense anyway.

However, if heavy propellant ballasting is needed for even the heaviest possible launch, then the maximum upper stack mass practical would be strongly restricted by that, to perhaps the 200 ton range or less, which would in turn imply maximum possible payloads not much greater than Saturn 1B--say up to maybe 40 tons. This is very much in line with the Orbiter design target of around 30 tons of course. It explains that the S-IV family of stages is the right place, and only place, to look--simply stretching it modestly takes us to the upper limits of what is available anyway.

Naturally this means all my arguments in favor of a smaller size Lifter being more right-sized goes out the window, unless it is possible for a later generation Lifter to tolerate aerobraking at much higher speeds. In which case designing a big brother of the same scale as the first generation Lifter using the newer hotter-entry structural tech would be a move in the opposite direction--to at long last once again re-enable Saturn V type single launch capabilities.

Since that project would involve both more expensive higher-tech structure (replacing aluminum with steels or titanium, use of thermal tiles as on OTL and ATL Orbiter, or whatnot) and also a big mass of reusable craft to invest in, it would be a distant-future sort of thing, undertaken only if the response of global launch markets to any economies the Lifter enables is to demand larger and larger payloads, well above 40 tons, in general.

If no such demand trend emerges, the conversation I see on space policy today suggests that the lower masses were inherently always the wisest course to take, and thus assembling something like a Lunar exploration mission ought always to be expected to take 3 or 4 launches, and building an expedition to Mars or whatever could also be done will with the more modest restrictions. In that case--NASA will never ever recover the 100+ ton single launch capability; it will always be available on paper, but there will never be missions to justify it.

Still the ATL seems better off than OTL, in that the Lifter can at any rate enable launches in the 30+ ton range, which do not need to go up on Orbiter. It would take many launches to equal a Skylab, but if the price of a launch can be reduced enough, the bottleneck becomes not launching it but funding the hardware itself, and the extended suite of follow-on launches to send crews up to man it! With three 30 ton modules NASA can more than surpass Skylab; with 5 or 6 they can far surpass it, and achieving something as good as ISS or better can still be done quite quickly, if someone is funding the stations themselves. Meanwhile the upper limit around 30-40 tons is much more in line with even the more grandiose wishes of the USAF/NRO and thus Lifter is likely to be adopted by the Air Force, under one management (as a NASA client) or another (Blue Lifter!) Air Force procurement and interest in turn seems to shine a more rosy light on the continuation and improvement of the Lifter program, quite aside from Orbiter, and Orbiter being cheaper to operate could either match OTL accomplishments in space on a lower budget or surpass them on a moderately higher budget.

Although I am disappointed the Lifter program is so limited compared to my earlier assumptions, it still meets what I think is the most important criterion of an ATL STS, which is to separate the costly (initially) reusable stuff from on-orbit operations, allowing spacecraft, including reentry and reuse capable space-planes, to be optimize for orbital operations and reentry, without having to haul around a bunch of launch tech useless after launch. In the ATL program's case, the upper stages remain expendable, but since the Lifter gets them going to a good speed in launch, they are rather more capable than similar sized hardware on traditional expendable boosters would be, and yet are cheaper because a standard design can be used in large batches, thus lowering per item cost and making the fact that they are written off in one launch more bearable.
 
I'll be interested to see how much NASA undershoots launch costs with this shuttle.

Much less than they did on the OTL Shuttle, since the hardware, being Saturn-Apollo heritage, is a much better-understood system than the SSMEs, SRBs, and tile-based TPS ended up being. Of course, that's not what the final cost to customers will be--inflation got wild in the 1970s. NASA's original estimates are probably closer to $15 million (back when S-IVB was spec'd).

It would save on crew costs I suppose, and there is a safety aspect. I expect I might understand the timeline better when I have some pretty pictures/drawings to look at.

Both the Lifter and the Shuttle are crewed. We've got some pictures in the pipeline--just waiting on the best opportunity to release them.

How much does the vehicle weigh? I know the MLP weighed 5,000 tons with an unfueled OTL shuttle stack (including the SRBs). Also, are the glider and the S-IVC mounted on the nose of the S-IC or on the back? I'm wondering how the stack can be 300 feet tall without something going on the front of the Space Lifter. I can't see the Space Lifter itself being much longer than 180 feet unless it's been really stretched, which would obviously be both difficult and expensive.

Shuttle and S-IVC are indeed mounted on the RS-IC's nose--a configuration chosen to minimize needed changes to RS-IC's structure.

As to weights, most of that weight is the pad, umbilical tower, and other supporting infrastructure. Like the OTL Saturn V and unlike OTL Shuttle, the Lifter stack goes to the pad unfueled--it's an empty aluminum tube, essentially. Specific weights were provided by the Revell-Monogram company on Page 4:

Though it will operates more like an airplane than previous rockets did, the Space Lifter, like all rockets, will be mostly fuel and oxidizer at launch. On the pad, the Space Lifter Constitution will weigh 5,342,140 pounds, but when its wheel stop at landing, it will weigh only 600,000 lb. The S-IVC Upper Stage, which will be disposed of at the end of every mission, will be even lighter compared to its fuel load--50,000 lb dry to 450,000 lb wet. The Space Shuttle carries only the fuel it needs to maneuver on-orbit: its weight is 91,270 lb wet, 72,140 lb dry, of which 17,600 lb is the Shuttle’s payload.


So, big things are happening this week. I've probably said it before, but I'll say it again: I'm really digging the format on TTL. Though the ETS format is great when planning out the whole space industry over a period of 45 years, this slow buildup works really well when talking about just one program, be it a big one. The back and forth between the 1980 launch and the history thereof is great as well.

We're glad to hear you like it! We'll be going further abroad and looking at the wider impacts of this changed STS architecture in Part II, and hopefully the format will work just as well on a global scale as on a national one.

I see several things being teased this way. Though the student experiments in the booster nose are a nice little detail, what caught my eye was the reference to 'the experimental space stations of the 1980s'. This puts me in a Salyut/Tiangong mindset. Is the US perhaps not aiming for a permanent space station just yet? Their eagerness to push Skylab to such extremes would suggest otherwise. Perhaps the availability of cheaper lift will mean that the US will order some space stations on the side, along with a large modular station. One of those could even be owned by the air force, the MOL finally realised thanks to the RS-IC!

A lot will indeed happen in the 1980s--stay tuned to learn more! Skylab revival schemes were a dime-a-dozen IOTL (indeed, there was even a half-serious suggestion to refurbish Skylab B in the 1980s as the core of Freedom), so this is more an example of "hey, let's not just throw this stuff away" than serious planning. But the chosen architecture has both different capabilities and different limitations from the OTL Orbiter--and that will make itself felt as NASA and its partners work on actually using the Orbiter and Lifter.

@Shevek23, the five engines are chosen for a number of reasons--standardized operation, not wanting to have to reconfigure the S-IC thrust structure or propellant feed systems, redundant engine-out. Lesser-engined configurations were studied, but there was just no compelling TTL reason to fly with fewer engines. Similarly, 1500 m/s is chosen to keep the TPS simple--NASA could have worked a tile-based TPS onto the Lifter, but that would have been yet another technological hurdle to surmount before it could start operating. The advantage of staggered development is that the Orbiter (less program-critical than the Lifter) could demonstrate the advanced techs before they were committed. As to payloads and capabilities, there's a lot you can do with only 40-50 tonnes in LEO--but, if need be, it's a lot easier to build new tankage for an existing engine than it is to revive an engine out-of-production for 40 years. If there's a need for S-II, NASA can still build it.

Once the Lifter-Shuttle stack is operational, there will be plenty of ideas for how to best use it--and I hope you all stick around to see them!
 

Archibald

Banned

L5 Society Lobbying Brochure, “The Space Transportation System: A Wagon Train to the High Frontier”--1975


“The Space Transportation System is, therefore, crucial to ensuring the competitiveness of the United States in space exploitation. Its launch cost, at $18.6 Million (1971 dollars--see attached breakdown), is an order-of-magnitude reduction from the costs of the Saturn V, while still retaining the ability to launch almost half the total payload. By reusing the largest single part of the vehicle, the Space Transportation System eliminates the costly task of building an entire new vehicle after every flight, and opens up new possibilities for economic development of the high frontier.”

This is very interesting. OTL the L5 society believed in the space shuttle early on but they were soon disapointed and different launch vehicles were imagined, such as Boeing super heavy lifter TSTO (look at the first stage: it looks like ITTL lifter !)
http://spaceflighthistory.blogspot.fr/2016/12/energy-from-space-department-of.html

Surely enough, the lifter brute force and the well known S-IVB better fit the L5 society grandiose vision. Who knows, maybe the lifter could make the SBSP dream come true ? (SBSP = Space Based Solar Power)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power
 
The Revell-Monogram data are certainly informative--I haven't really processed that at all.

Another clue to the nature of Lifter that suggests another way I've gone astray is the choice of turbofan flyback engines. I have given my reasons why I'd assume the aircraft ought to be designed to brake down to below sonic speed and then cruise back in the high subsonic range, Mach 0.85-0.92 or so.

However, even if the Lifter does cruise subsonically, the design as an airplane would probably be very different than the usual planform the vast majority of subsonic high speed aircraft have, with a swept wing in the traditional configuration of narrow chord high span wing in the middle with a tailplane comprising stabilizer and elevator. Surely it would have to be a subsonic delta, as with the OTL Orbiter or the Avro Vulcan bomber. No designers (except Avro, and North American Rockwell OTL making the Shuttle, which does not apply here) have any experience with that! We'd need a delta (in some variation) to get the strength and lowered drag necessary for the wings to survive the supersonic drag during launch; the delta form also provides a more solid form during the aerobraking phase bringing airspeed down to the cruise regime. The OTL Orbiter shows us that subsonic wings, with rounded leading edges, can be brute-forced through a vertical launch under rocket thrust. But the Lifter will mass 266 tons when it lands, and presumably somewhat more when it stabilizes to cruise speed and altitude after aerobraking--to the extent its flyback fuel is a significant added weight anyway. That's pretty near the mass I guessed at, though a bit lighter. Still it is one very big airplane; in 1972 only the Boeing 747 and Lockheed C-5 were in that ballpark, and perhaps some Soviet designs, presumably by Antonov. Even a subsonic cruiser would look an awful lot like an SST, until you got close enough to it to note the wing leading edges are blunt and not sharp. Relative to a traditional winged subsonic jet, it will still land fast and somewhat clumsy.

I didn't take the alternative of a supersonic flyback cruise speed very seriously for a number of reasons, which I have already shared, and also I don't see that high speed in returning the Lifter to its launch site is of much importance. It might be if Lifters were launching every hour, but since a launch rate of 20 times a year would be highly optimistic, there's really no hurry I can see.

But--the choice of engine designated, the GE F101, is a clue that perhaps supersonic cruise is desired after all! The F101 was designed for the B-1 bomber, which in the A version being designed around the time of the Shuttle Decision was meant to reach speeds in excess of Mach 2. (The B-1B, due to modifications meant to improve stealth and achieve other mission objectives, is limited to Mach 1.25 at high altitude and 0.85 at low altitude).

And Boeing certainly did have experience attempting to design an SST meant to cruise at Mach 2.66.

1500 m/sec is about Mach 4.5; given the expensive, high-tech requirements of the SR-71 and B-70 Valkyrie bomber that were meant to cruise at much lower speeds than that I can be sure the Lifter is not meant to cruise at that speed, nor would the F101 engines be suitable for such high speeds. Since the reason to limit the sensible airspeed even briefly to 1500 m/sec or less is that this enables more traditional materials whereas the Boeing SST required high-temperature steel or titanium, I would think the speed must be lower than the SST was meant to cruise at, probably even slower than Concorde or the B-1A at Mach 2. But if supersonic, faster than the B-1B's 1.25, since that speed is in an unfavorable regime. It might be meant to fly in the range 1.35-2, somewhere in there is a sweet spot of least unfavorable lift/drag characteristics, and the speed is such that stratospheric air is heated adiabatically by the shock wave to temperatures comparable to those at sea level.

The F101 engines are capable of operating in that regime. Of course there may be other reasons these engines were chosen even if the plan is to drop below sonic speed and cruise at high subsonic speed--even the B-1A was meant to have the option of subsonic cruise, with its swing wings extended, for maximum economy and range; the B-1B went over to operating mainly in that regime with its low supersonic option being for dashes. The posts have mentioned some difficulty enabling the F101 engines to operate in high speed regimes, presumably higher than the Mach 2+ the engines were designed for. Actually I'm not sure why this contingency would be required; when moving faster than Mach 2, the craft needs to slow down, so there would be no reason to start the engines yet, not until it dropped into speed ranges the engines most assuredly could handle.

At any rate, this choice of engine suggests that an engine designed exclusively for high subsonic speeds, such as the turbofans chosen for the Boeing 747 or Lockheed C-5 would not be suitable at all. This suggests that thrust is required above the speed of sound-which might be a temporary thing explained by the requirement to operate them at even higher Mach factors than 2. Or it might imply supersonic cruise back.

I still think the blunter and plumper forms possible with subsonic flight recommend subsonic cruise home. During braking, these forms would raise drag, which in that phase is a good thing, and the rounded leading edges would not develop the intense heat and force concentrations sharp-edged forms would. Thick delta wings are structurally more efficient, and provide opportunities to put useful volumes, such as fuel tanks, into them. (However Polish Eagle's remarks on the desire to avoid reworking S-1B structures and plumbing suggest that even if an option to move launch/ballasting kerosene into the wings were offered, conservatism would leave the rocket fuel in the central tank). Though more difficult to handle and land than a traditional subsonic airplane, it ought to handle better and land at a lower speed than a supersonic designed plane would.
 

Archibald

Banned
Just a question ( to be sure)
ITTL shuttle stack consists of Flax glider bolted to a S-IVC, itself attached to the front of the flyback S-IC by an interstage ? We need some picture of the whole thing. The overall aerodynamics will be interesting (doubbe arrow )

I can see a NASA "backup plan" if the glider was either delayed or cancelled. An Apollo CSM with its escape tower could be attached to the S-IVC, somewhat like a Saturn IB. It would be a very straightforward "Plan B"
 
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Just a question ( to be sure)
ITTL shuttle stack consists of Flax glider bolted to a S-IVC, itself attached to the front of the flyback S-IC by an interstage ? We need some picture of the whole thing. The overall aerodynamics will be interesting (doubbe arrow )

I can see a NASA "backup plan" if the glider was either delayed or cancelled. An Apollo CSM with its escape tower could be attached to the S-IVC, somewhat like a Saturn IB.
Well, if you like to use fishing plumb bobs as arrowheads! Remember the Orbiter flies, but is a lifting body, not a wing-on-boxcar-fuselage design like OTL Orbiter.

In planform the lifting body does look like a delta, albeit one with a rounded nose; from the side it looks like a pretty plump fish leaping out of the water!

Aerodynamically of course any body that is an effective glider will have the aerodynamic lift you are referencing. The usual concern on a normal rocket that the lifting body mounted forward of the stack center of mass would have so much positive feedback if the rocket diverges from flying straight into its aerodynamic slipstream that it would disrupt control is addressed by the much vaster aerodynamic lift area of the Lifter itself. But of course any time the stack is not straight on into the slipstream, by brief accident or sustained design, a bending moment is going to be imposed on the S-IV derived upper stage and on the forward fuselage of the Lifter. The Lifter is after all much heavier and more robust than the S-IB it is derived from, but it would also be necessary to reinforce the upper stage too, and no mention has been made of this--all emphasis has been on stretching that stage over 50 percent to hold nearly 180 tons of propellant, which would tend to make it all the more vulnerable to the extra torque, and cheapening its construction despite the greater size, which is not encouraging either.

However, I do also see (from the Revell-Monogram model box fact sheet) that the dry mass of the second stage is 22 tons, and that is not really in line with simply stretching the S-IV base design; it seems it is a bit heavier than we'd extrapolate. Maybe that is because it isn't "stretched" in every dimension but merely lengthened (this would leave the torque problem at its worst).

But it may well be that this bending problem has been considered and addressed by strengthening the stage despite the desire to keep it light and cheap as possible--knowing about the bending moment during the first stage Lifter burn, it was understood some reinforcement would be necessary. I think this best accounts for the rather high dry weight of the stage.

Ironically, the bending problem will be far less on pre-Orbiter payloads that are much less aerodynamically reactive.
 
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