Richards Kingdom (German Mecca? English Cairo in the 13th century?)

This is my first thread. It is not my first alternate history, so I know where I'm going here. Anyways to explain what this is all about: In the year 1199, King Richard I of the Angevin Empire decided not to head out into the dry desert, saving his troops, and his empire.

THIRD CRUSADE:
April, 1199: King Richard keeps control of Outremer and stops Saladins army from taking his lands, instead of marching off into the desert to Jerusalem.
May: Richard and Phillip II of France use their combined naval force to take the east coast of Palestine.
June: English and French troops march to Jerusalem. Encounter Saladins army. Undecisive battle. Camp on the River Jordan.
July-August: Siege of Jerusalem. Saladin flees to Eygpt. All of Arab Palestine is ceded to Outremer.
October: English-French troops sail down the Nile. Half the fleet is sunk near Giza. Phillip drowns. Louis VII becomes king of France. Richards brother John takes crown of England. Richard is called back to stop his brother. Third Crusade dissipated.

FEUD OF THE BROTHERS:
Janruary, 1200: Richard returns to Normandy. Excises all followers of John. Rebuilds his army.
February: John holds off north of the river Thames. Richard sieges the Tower of London using his techniques from the Crusade. London is taken. Richard flees to York.
March: Richard reaches Yorkshire. Huge blockade of English military. Nearly all turn to Richards side. John is executed in the market in York

COLLAPSE OF FRANCE:
May, 1200: Diplomacy with French weaken terribly after the King allied eith John. Richard convinces the Holy Roman Emperor, Otto IV to join him in putting all of France under their control. Invasion of France underway.
June: Paris blockaded. All lands east of Amiens and west of Paris is under German/English control. Toulouse allies with HRE and England.
July: Siege of Paris. French royal family flees to Outremer. All of France (Exception of Toulouse) is under foriegn control. Paris ceded to HRE. Kingdom of Toulouse independent from France.

DOMINATION:
September, 1200: Richard returns to Eygpt with Otto. Land and naval troops swipe northern Eygpt. Anarchy in Arabian territories.
October: French overrun all of the English Outremer and gain supermacy in the Holy Land. Small reinforcement dispatched to stop advances of French. English fleet is badly damaged by Saladins army. Ottos land troops start to siege Cairo. Saladin is killed in the chaos. Richard joins Otto and take Cairo in he name of God.
November: Eygpt is converted and 1000s of Muslims are massacred. French are stopped at the English/German fortress on the Eygptian coast. French pull back into the Sinai as English/German troops march for Jerusalem.
December: The Arabian anarchy is reinstated as the Emirates of Jedda. English and German troops create an official alliance/pact which it's expiring date is in December 1300. French Jerusalem is held back. Byzantines start to reinstate their rule in the Levant.
Janruary 1201: French Outremer is replaced by the Allied Outremer. Byzantines regain all the way to Damascus. Border issues with Byzantines. Allied forces start the invasion of the Emirates of Jedda.
March: Allied fleet reaches the Holy City of Mecca. The city is burnt to the ground. Muslims worldwide mourn for their loss. Siege of Jedda underway
April-May: Siege of Jedda. Collapse of the Emirates of Jedda. Creation of Christian Arabia. Richard and Otto then spilt the land between them. Eygpt went to Richard and the Holy Land and Arabia went to Otto.

MORE TO COME ;)
 
You're really assuming a far easier conquests during the crusades than it would be. Richard lacked the troops to even hold Jerusalem long term. And besides which his does the English navy (which I'm not sure of in this era) get through the Almohad controlled straights of Gibraltar? Let alone how the feet manages to secure land (the crusader fleet essentially existed as a logistic aid rather than a direct crusader ally). Egypt would also certainly put up more resistance to the Crusaders.
 
The Genoese and the Venetians might be able to give more naval support than they did in OTL if they are rewarded sufficiently. Unlike the English they don't have to get past gibraltar and both have a pretty formidable galley fleet ready to fight for plunder. Other than that, will keep an eye on this.
 
You're really assuming a far easier conquests during the crusades than it would be. Richard lacked the troops to even hold Jerusalem long term. And besides which his does the English navy (which I'm not sure of in this era) get through the Almohad controlled straights of Gibraltar? Let alone how the feet manages to secure land (the crusader fleet essentially existed as a logistic aid rather than a direct crusader ally). Egypt would also certainly put up more resistance to the Crusaders.

And Richard was nowhere near Outremer in 1199, so I'm not sure what the POD the author intends actually is.
 
Outremer means overseas in French. To my knowledge is Outremer used for French departements and territories overseas (DOM/TOM)
 
It was ASB when it happened in the first Isaac's Empire, so I'm going to say that an HRE-conquest of France is pretty much impossible, without some serious internal reforms for the Empire itself. And what's happened to the actual monarchs of the Crusader States in this period? The Crusader states were not colonies of European monarchs, contrary to what you seem to be thinking here.
 
Rewritten Timeline of 1199 (Historically correct this time)

Year 1199

POINT OF DIVERGENCE: April 6
April: King Richard just misses getting shot in the siege of Chalus-Chabrol. The count excuses his execution because he told Richard he was paid a ransom by Phillip to take Aquitaine from Angevin rule. Richard decides to try and get the county of Toulouse to join his side in stopping the French. Phillip orders his army to set out and affirm Toulouse's loyalty to the King. French soldiers siege Clemont in Auvergne. Successful, but loss of many as 800 men. The Angevins notice this immdiatly. Richard an his army start their march to Clemont to save their fellow brothers.
May: Diplomacy with Toulouse improves. Riots in Auvergne cause the Frenh to fortify themselves in the Castle in Clemont. Angevins reach Auvergne. Siege of Clemont. French flee from the castle, but burn down parts of the city. Richard heads to Albi to meet with the Count of Toulouse.
June: French start to wall up their borders with the Angevins. Phillip II decides to raise a large army to seige Anjou and possibly Borderaux. The French Count of Toulouse becomes the Angevin Count of Toulouse. Many of the barons rebel against his change to the Angevins. Richard returns to Clemont to overview the rebuilding of the city.
July: Richard tries to persuade some of the French Vassals to join him like Toulouse did, does not overpower any of them. French still building their army which has been relocated to Blois. Angevins hear rumours of this army and pull all military support to Tours, closest Angevin city to Blois.
August: Before Richard reaches Tours, the French march thee Te country side to be met by the armies from Normandy and Anjou. The French barely win the massive battle but were eventually cut down to retreating back to Blois.
September: After fighting his way through French flash attacks, Richard made his way to Tours and prepared to head for Paris. French military heavily fortify their border between Blois and Tours.
October: Richard starts to pillage and burn the French village on the road to Blois. French troops pull in on Richards troops and decisively defeat Richard which is pushed back to the border. Endless fighting on the border.
November: Richard employs Venetian shipbuilders to help create a fleet to go up the Siene to Paris. Venetians reach Cannes by the 26th and head to Rouen. Richards army finally destroy the battlements on the border and head for Blois.
December: East of Blois is being held off by the French. Richard sends diplomats to the Count of Blois to see if he is willing to forfeit and join him. The Count decides to join the Angevins but is killed by the other French troops while trying to take back Blois for himself. His small dispatchment of knights, which were very loyal to him, decided to kill all the French troops with their makeshift peasant armies. The County of Blois is taken for the Angevins. Venetians reach Rouen.

Year 1200! Coming soon!
P.S. Thanks for all your information which has helped me redesign what actually happens.
 
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"Stopping the French"?

Richard is facing a vassal who is causing him trouble. He has a truce with Philip.

And . . . yeah, this still needs more work.
 
Also Saladin died in 1193 - is the OP getting confused between 1189 and 1199?

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I think you really should go back to the beginning and research some more. This feels very hastily thrown together.

Not just "this post is the edited version" after reading a few replies, but study the period.
 
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Toulouse already paid homage to the Angevins under the previous Count.

Phillipe and Richard were nominally at peace following the Truce of Vernon in January 11999
 
I think you really should go back to the beginning and research some more. This feels very hastily thrown together.

Not just "this post is the edited version" after reading a few replies, but study the period.

I studied Richard and the Angevins. I also studied the French parts a small bit
 

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We sort of pride ourselves hereabouts on the fact that we maintain civil discourse. That being said we also take our history pretty seriously. If you make really clear factual mistakes or put out something without anything close to support, you WILL be called on it. We do not attack members, their posts... well it it is always good to be on solid ground.

If you can not handle criticism this may not be a really good place for you to post spottily researched timelines.
 
I studied Richard and the Angevins. I also studied the French parts a small bit

More study of the French parts, and of the HRE would help a lot.

As of 1199, Philip of Swabia is emperor, for example.

I'm not sure what you're trying to have happen, so I'm not sure where to suggest you begin reading.
 
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