Richard killed during the Third Crusade

Richard the Lionheart often fought pretty recklessly throughout the Third Crusade; let's just say he pushes his luck too far and he gets killed at the Battle of Jaffa where he seems to have been most at risk.

With Richard out of the way and without his negotiations and the ensuing truce is the Kingdom of Jerusalem wiped out by Saladin? What are the long term implications for England, where taxes won't have to be raised to pay for Richard's ransom.
 
Richard the Lionheart often fought pretty recklessly throughout the Third Crusade; let's just say he pushes his luck too far and he gets killed at the Battle of Jaffa where he seems to have been most at risk.

With Richard out of the way and without his negotiations and the ensuing truce is the Kingdom of Jerusalem wiped out by Saladin? What are the long term implications for England, where taxes won't have to be raised to pay for Richard's ransom.

Robert Hoode becomes just another Theif.
 
Without the whole mess of John usurping power from Richard during the Third Crusade, I'd wager he'll be a good deal more popular in England. That being said, he'll immediately have more pressing concerns as Philip II of France might make a play for England's French lands due to the secession dispute with Arthur of Brittany.

Seeing as in TTL Arthur is even younger, England is in better financial shape (not having to pay Richard's ransom), and John is more popular, I'd wager that this war goes better for the English than OTL, probably resulting in status quo ante bellum. A victory here might be enough to forestall the events that led to TTL's signing of the Magna Carta.

John's sudden ascension to the throne might also affect his marriage and issue, as he will still be married to Isabel, Countess of Gloucester. In OTL they were married for 10 years and produced no heirs. Will they be able to in OTL? If not who secedes him? Will John divorce her and marry again even if he is king? If so, who?
 
Fearless Leader said:
Seeing as in TTL Arthur is even younger, England is in better financial shape (not having to pay Richard's ransom), and John is more popular, I'd wager that this war goes better for the English than OTL, probably resulting in status quo ante bellum.

Not so sure about that. Don't forget that's Philip Augustus which John is fighting against. Philip II of France is sure to play the Arthur card against John, although he'll probably act more cautiously because of Arthur's young age.

All will depend on how John's politics in his French lands are. OTL, he angered several of his most important vassals, which payed hommage to Arthur. If John applies the same politics, there is a good chance that he will face the same problem.

Also, it may be just an impression, but I don't think John was a very good soldier compared to Philip Augustus (Bouvines) or the latter's son, Louis (nicknamed the Lion and sometimes Lionheart).

One last thing : Philip Augustus isn't going to accept a status quo ante bellum. For Philip, the Angevins were far too powerful and were a threat to his power : that's why he did everything to break the Angevin Empire OTL. He might have a harder time in breaking the Angevins TTL, but he will do everything he can.

John might fare better in England, but I'm not sure he will fare better in France.
 
Richard.

The crusade would end almost immediately. Without a strong leader, the troops would quickly lose interest in the struggle with Saladin. Both sides were tired of the fighting, so the crusaders would probably retain Acre.
 
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