Richard II has a son

Something that has appeared here before, but something I am considering doing some serious work on, so any and all thoughts would be appreciated.

In 1382, Richard II of England married Anne of Bohemia, a marriage that was quite unpopular at the time, for it brought little to England, and Richard had to pay Anne's relations himself. Now in otl, their marriage was childless, and when Anne died in 1394, from the plague, Richard was grief stricken, and some claim, that is what drove him further downward into tyranny, as Anne was often someone who could get him to relent in some of his harsher punishments.

Now, the POD, is as the title suggests, that Richard and Anne have a son, named Edward born in 1384. Now assuming certain events such as the Lords Appellant still happen as otl, alongside the requisite punishments, and Anne still dies in 1394, with Richard banishing Henry of Bolingbroke, and later denying him his titles.

If we say Edward, Prince of Wales, aged 15 is a relatively educated young man, who has the people's trust, what might happen should Henry land in England as he did otl.
 
Well, you know, Edward IV left a 13 years-old son, who was well educated too and who came to be known as king Edward V. Un fortunately, his uncle Richard took too much care of him in order to become Richard III.

So there is a very high probability that Richard II's mere cousin, Henry of Lancaster, would take the same care of the son of his counsin.
 
Why cant the P.O.D be a different princess marrying Richard?


As for Prince Edward of Wales, in 1399 I could imagine the War of the Roses, starting 56 years years early. If Edward, can marry a woman in a good family such as Margaret Holland, (1385–1439) the daughter of Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent, who himself was the son of Joan "the Fair Maid of Kent" (granddaughter of Edward I of England, wife of Edward the Black Prince and mother of Richard II of England). Margaret's mother was Alice FitzAlan, daughter of Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel and Eleanor of Lancaster.
 
Well, you know, Edward IV left a 13 years-old son, who was well educated too and who came to be known as king Edward V. Un fortunately, his uncle Richard took too much care of him in order to become Richard III.

So there is a very high probability that Richard II's mere cousin, Henry of Lancaster, would take the same care of the son of his counsin.

You think, you don;t think he won't try and turn son against father?

Why cant the P.O.D be a different princess marrying Richard?


As for Prince Edward of Wales, in 1399 I could imagine the War of the Roses, starting 56 years years early. If Edward, can marry a woman in a good family such as Margaret Holland, (1385–1439) the daughter of Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent, who himself was the son of Joan "the Fair Maid of Kent" (granddaughter of Edward I of England, wife of Edward the Black Prince and mother of Richard II of England). Margaret's mother was Alice FitzAlan, daughter of Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel and Eleanor of Lancaster.

What Princesses are avaliable?

And oh, you think going for a local match and not a foreign one? Would Henry still claim the crown with a more senior and direct heir?
 
In this scenario, is Henry of Bolingbroke, more likely to try and establish a regency for Richard II's son, or more likely to claim the throne outright? Will he get support to do this, or will Edmund of Langley hold firm?
 
What Princesses are avaliable?
Margaret Holland (1385–1439)
Joanna or Blanche of Navarre (1382–1413) If her and Edward have a child, they will become heir not only of England but also Navarre after Charles III dies without male issues.
Anne of Gloucester (1383–1438) the daughter of Thomas of Woodstock, 1st Duke of Gloucester (the youngest son of Edward III of England and Philippa of Hainault.)
Joan of France (1391-1433) daughter of Charles VI of France and his wife, Isabeau of Bavaria. This marriage gives Edward a strong ally in France.
Princess Margaret of Scotland (13??-1451) daughter of King Robert III

And oh, you think going for a local match and not a foreign one? Would Henry still claim the crown with a more senior and direct heir?
Edward would need to marry some one who can assist in his control of England, an English family that can strengthen his claim and supply soldiers to his defence.
 
Margaret Holland (1385–1439)
Joanna or Blanche of Navarre (1382–1413) If her and Edward have a child, they will become heir not only of England but also Navarre after Charles III dies without male issues.
Anne of Gloucester (1383–1438) the daughter of Thomas of Woodstock, 1st Duke of Gloucester (the youngest son of Edward III of England and Philippa of Hainault.)
Joan of France (1391-1433) daughter of Charles VI of France and his wife, Isabeau of Bavaria. This marriage gives Edward a strong ally in France.
Princess Margaret of Scotland (13??-1451) daughter of King Robert III


Edward would need to marry some one who can assist in his control of England, an English family that can strengthen his claim and supply soldiers to his defence.

Okay interesting, would Richard II's otl second wife Isabelle of Valois be a contender for a marriage as well?

And indeed, so I suppose Henry would have to go for the throne?
 
As Richard II was in Ireland when Henry Bolingbroke invaded, would Edward have been with his father, or left in London?
 
So out of Margaret Holland and Anne of Gloucester, it does seem as if Anne would be the more likely, especially given the fact that she's her brother's heir, and her brother was notoriously poor of health no?
 
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