Although also, one thing to keep in mind: Mark's Jewish. I only mentioned it once, because it's not particularly important to his character (and besides, he's very secular), but it throws an interesting spanner into some works if you want to keep that aspect of his character.
Revolutionaries - A Queensland TL
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Although also, one thing to keep in mind: Mark's Jewish. I only mentioned it once, because it's not particularly important to his character (and besides, he's very secular), but it throws an interesting spanner into some works if you want to keep that aspect of his character.
Uh...well...
They have a very pro-Palestinian position in the Middle East conflict. They have a strong base in Muslim communities. They have a tendency towards hyperbolic radicalism, and draw upon many of the old Communist groups.
None of these are indicative of anti-Semitism, I'd hasten to say. But that doesn't mean that some of their supporters don't, uh, lean that way. It would certainly be interesting at times for someone of Jewish background in the party, and that's all I'll say (without wanting to defame RESPECT supporters, some of whom I'm sure are quite rational.)
Mark Vass goes to America!
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?p=2080953#post2080953
( I decided to have Vass go to America instead of to Britain, because to be quite frank , I don't know much about RESPECT and don't want to go into the intricacies of a small socialist party. I think Vass' decision to work with Kucinich would be a reasonable enough one given his personality yes?)
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?p=2080953#post2080953
( I decided to have Vass go to America instead of to Britain, because to be quite frank , I don't know much about RESPECT and don't want to go into the intricacies of a small socialist party. I think Vass' decision to work with Kucinich would be a reasonable enough one given his personality yes?)
BUMP
I know its been a few months since anybody has posted in this thread, but I couldn't resist commenting on this timeline. Blackmage, this is one bloody amazing timeline, and I salute you for doing an impressively detailed job. You captured the shear horror of a Hanson premiership with such an amazing prose that I'm leaving wanting more, not that any sane person would want to endure another three years of Hanson or One Nation.
I know its been a few months since anybody has posted in this thread, but I couldn't resist commenting on this timeline. Blackmage, this is one bloody amazing timeline, and I salute you for doing an impressively detailed job. You captured the shear horror of a Hanson premiership with such an amazing prose that I'm leaving wanting more, not that any sane person would want to endure another three years of Hanson or One Nation.
Seldrin
Banned
Punish Queensland so that the rest of Australia can have some funmakes sense to me, but i'm a cockroach.
You're just jealous of our great weather and great women, no need to take it out on the best state in the nation
.You're just jealous of our great weather and great women, no need to take it out on the best state in the nation
Unfortunately you also have horrible beer, canetoads and Kiwis!
About the only good thing from Queensland is Bundy and if the founding fathers had had any sense North Queensland would have been a separate state.
Unfortunately you also have horrible beer, canetoads and Kiwis!
About the only good thing from Queensland is Bundy and if the founding fathers had had any sense North Queensland would have been a separate state.
We have founding fathers?
Seldrin
Banned
More commonly known as, "them blokes what gone and got pissed one night to make 'Straya".
Take it from a International Socialist the RESPECT coalition was just another SWP blunder along the line of the '30's in Slow Motion' debacle. The SWP is not anti-semitic. Read any of their writings on Palestine, there is absolutely no Anti-Semitism and their opposition to Israel is based on opposition to all forms of imperialism, colonialism and oppression - i've picketted enough fascists/anti-semite bastards with them to know. And the RESPECT coalition may have some nasty elements in it, but it is not that bad.
oh, and reformist pseudo-Socialists like Mark can piss off, and if anyone is following Aussie politics at the moment, the laborites are already just as racist
Two and a half years after the last post, I'm bumping this because:
a) I think it's a good story, and want some of the newcomers to the board to have a chance to see it, and
b) I'm working on a sequel! 12 Cases, building out of an obscure aside in one of the middle chapters, explores the legacy of One Nation rule in Queensland, developing the story and taking another look at race, class and country in Australia.
I'm about 20 000 words into it so far, which is pretty good, and shall post it some day. If you're interested in that prospect, please let me know.
a) I think it's a good story, and want some of the newcomers to the board to have a chance to see it, and
b) I'm working on a sequel! 12 Cases, building out of an obscure aside in one of the middle chapters, explores the legacy of One Nation rule in Queensland, developing the story and taking another look at race, class and country in Australia.
I'm about 20 000 words into it so far, which is pretty good, and shall post it some day. If you're interested in that prospect, please let me know.
Please don't let Pauline Hansen be leader I just can't stand her.
becides that go ahead and post the sequel.
I was inspired to sign up to this website, after perhaps a year of lurking, because of this story. I don't believe I ever commented on this story, so as someone who has had the pleasure of preferencing One Nation last at every election I've voted in: thank you.
I must admit, I thought this was bumped because you were going to announce a Future History timeline detailing the rise of the Katter's Australian Party to power after the 2012 Queensland state election God help all of us should that happen.
Well done, and I look forward to future timelines from yourself.
I must admit, I thought this was bumped because you were going to announce a Future History timeline detailing the rise of the Katter's Australian Party to power after the 2012 Queensland state election
God help all of us should that happen.Well done, and I look forward to future timelines from yourself.
Thanks, Thunderbolt and Syphon!
And yes, Thunderbolt, I must admit I was inspired to start writing this again based on Katter's Australian Party - it's rather eerie to see a similar conservative-cum-populist movement rise in the Deep North. The KAP have probably been butterflied away after Revolutionaries, but they did start me thinking again about where the story goes from there... I've even started working out the sequel after 12 Cases, although God knows when I'll ever get round to writing it.
Nice to know there's still interest out there.
And yes, Thunderbolt, I must admit I was inspired to start writing this again based on Katter's Australian Party - it's rather eerie to see a similar conservative-cum-populist movement rise in the Deep North. The KAP have probably been butterflied away after Revolutionaries, but they did start me thinking again about where the story goes from there... I've even started working out the sequel after 12 Cases, although God knows when I'll ever get round to writing it.
Nice to know there's still interest out there.
Das_Colonel
Banned
I've spent two days reading this TL. Really enjoyed it!
It makes the sideshow that the OTL 'pulling pants down' has become all the more satisfying.
Can't wait for the sequel.
It makes the sideshow that the OTL 'pulling pants down' has become all the more satisfying.
Can't wait for the sequel.