Revolution! Or, A Victorian Cold War

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by KitFisto1997, Jul 23, 2016.

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What country should I cover once I've finished California?

  1. Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth

    28.5%
  2. United States of America

    25.2%
  3. Germany

    13.9%
  4. France

    8.0%
  5. Scandinavia

    10.6%
  6. Quebec

    11.3%
  7. Other (Comment!)

    2.6%
  1. KitFisto1997 Political 'Sperg-Lord-in-Chief

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    Meanwhile the Russians are teetering on the border of either somewhat stable democracy or a totalitarian nightmare state where the Church and the Corporates are in cahoots. :p
     
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    Down with filthy privileged royal families that mooch off the workers! We need more socialist Republics like that of Яussia!! :p
     
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    Pretty much every Russian of TTL would prefer the current system (or Vladimir Zhirinovsky's for that matter ;) ) over the bread lines and enforced 'worker's rights'.

    TL;DR, kinda like Russia of OTL with their love for strongmen but are facing a worse future than OTL!Putin would ever lead them to...

    Tbh I'd prefer some good 'ol oligarchy than the Corporate/Religious hell that is the Russian Opposition Part of TTL. :p
     
  4. TimTurner Puxatani Phil Admirer

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    how is the Church reflected in the current Russian regime ITTL?
     
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    The Church has an unhealthy amount of influence over Russian politics and some of the more hardline members of the Orthodox Church promotes the supremacy their particular denomination over all others. The current Classical Liberal* government has been trying to keep them out but its gotten to the point where the Patriarch is so firmly entrenched and is supported by various military warlords and corporate bosses (the latter being born out of realpolitik rather than any dedication to God) that Russia will turn into another Poland-Lithuanian Commonwealth if they even try.

    Thankfully there aren't any concentration camps... Yet... :(
     
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    so it's a quasi-theocracy, not far from what Iran is in OTL.
     
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  7. KitFisto1997 Political 'Sperg-Lord-in-Chief

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    Well, a theocracy in the making since the Church is being kept at bay. But if the pro-Church factions come into power (if they even do) they'll have plenty of competition in the form of military warlords and their corporate counterparts.
     
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    I guess then it's a more religious version of North Korea in that case, but with a less pliable citizenry?
     
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  9. KitFisto1997 Political 'Sperg-Lord-in-Chief

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    Yep! But with a shaky, somewhat-democratic government that's on the edge of a full-blown theocratic, military or pro-corporatist revolution. Not just one, but three factions to choose from!! ;)

    Take the creeping religious influence of pre-'79 Iran, the environment of post-USSR Russia with Yeltsin-esque corruption and high levels of corporate oversight and inept politicians plus that of the Chinese-era Warlord States that are run by pro-government military men that are kept in line with copious amounts of rubles, women and beluga caviar.
     
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    What a wonderful place to live. Much better than a filthy monarchy. :p
     
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    All the while the Romanovs in Alayska watch on in horror and relief that they didn't ask for the Russian throne back when they had the chance... :p
     
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    In Alayska, you can visit the state prisons. In Confederated Russia, the state prisons can visit you. :p
     
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    Pretty much... I can imagine that an alternate version of Yakov Smirnoff is being hunted down by the FSB for making jokes at the expense of the Russian government as we speak... :p
     
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    Smirnoff should just spend his time acting in movies. (not just him, but all his alternate analogs ITTL):p
     
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  15. KitFisto1997 Political 'Sperg-Lord-in-Chief

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    But that's Putin's job! ;)
     
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    Who said they couldn't star in a movie together? :p
     
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    I still think Smirnoff is for either vodka or comedy. :p
     
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    Smirnoff Talks, a prime-time news show, with Colbert-style satires? :p
     
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  19. KitFisto1997 Political 'Sperg-Lord-in-Chief

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    Now we're getting somewhere!

    I'm also planning to have Sam Hyde as a lone wolf serial killer based in the United States with a crazy cult surrounding him ala 4chan and their weird obsession for his OTL counterpart...
     
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    i wonder when Hyde gets caught, and how long he serves in jail.
     
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