Reversed US Neutrality

Was there any way to see a United States that was the same kind of "neutral" as OTL, but favored the Axis powers over the Allies? Giving the Axis Lend-Lease and what not?

Without turning America into a Fascist nation? At least not at first if you feel it absolutely must happen.

Would all the Axis nations see TTL's LL? Or would it be focused on Italy and Germany, with Japan being excluded?

How would the Allies respond to an America that isn't officially a belligerent but is giving the Axis such a large amount of material support? Would Britain continue to fight on if it was clear America preferred the Germans?

Could we see the Allies become desperate enough to go completely insane and try to "punish" America, forcing them into the war? Or would the Allies just grin and bare it?

Dunno if you'd see volunteers . . . But assuming the Axis wins how does America develop? Can it stay a democracy or might we see a gradual shift into fascism?

How would our culture change when we're friendly to a victorious Axis? Race relations and the like?

Assuming they're actually drawn into this WW2, would they try to annex anyone (not including Canada which I think they'd try to grab) or would they be content with installing puppet regimes?

And just for the hell of it, again only assuming someone is dumb enough to force America into being an Axis ally . . . in the aftermath of the war is it possible for America to sell the Phillipines to Japan to strengthen relations with them? (Though I guess this assumes them not giving a damn about the Phillipines since they might have gained Canada, more of the Carribean, and a few of the Pacific Islands that are closer to America.)

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I haven't really asked question about a non-belligerent Axis favoring America in an Axis loses timeline . . . because I figure that would just see a really strong Soviet Union and an america forced to know the true meaning of isolation.
 
I think it will take a lot for there to be a large ground swell of public support in the US for the Axis. Hollywood was never pro-German.

Exactly how is the Axis suppose to get any supplies from the US once the blockade goes into effect? Thru neutral Spain is all that I can think of.
 
I did consider Britain trying to stop America from trading as one of the things that could potentially piss off America enough to turn belligerent . . . But surely my question barrage was getting long?

Though it was also me not being sure if Britain would still be fighting. It's not like Churchill can realistically promise the US is going to save them.
 
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Was there any way to see a United States that was the same kind of "neutral" as OTL, but favored the Axis powers over the Allies? Giving the Axis Lend-Lease and what not?

Without turning America into a Fascist nation? At least not at first if you feel it absolutely must happen.

Would all the Axis nations see TTL's LL? Or would it be focused on Italy and Germany, with Japan being excluded?

How would the Allies respond to an America that isn't officially a belligerent but is giving the Axis such a large amount of material support? Would Britain continue to fight on if it was clear America preferred the Germans?

Could we see the Allies become desperate enough to go completely insane and try to "punish" America, forcing them into the war? Or would the Allies just grin and bare it?

Dunno if you'd see volunteers . . . But assuming the Axis wins how does America develop? Can it stay a democracy or might we see a gradual shift into fascism?

How would our culture change when we're friendly to a victorious Axis? Race relations and the like?

Assuming they're actually drawn into this WW2, would they try to annex anyone (not including Canada which I think they'd try to grab) or would they be content with installing puppet regimes?

And just for the hell of it, again only assuming someone is dumb enough to force America into being an Axis ally . . . in the aftermath of the war is it possible for America to sell the Phillipines to Japan to strengthen relations with them? (Though I guess this assumes them not giving a damn about the Phillipines since they might have gained Canada, more of the Carribean, and a few of the Pacific Islands that are closer to America.)

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I haven't really asked question about a non-belligerent Axis favoring America in an Axis loses timeline . . . because I figure that would just see a really strong Soviet Union and an america forced to know the true meaning of isolation.

How did you read my mind??? This is the EXACT TL that I am working on! America, right-wing, isolationist and pro-German.

I keep going back and forth between isolationist and America being attacked by the Allies. In my TL work so far the Anglo-Japanese Alliance lasted longer (may or may not still exist by 1939) and Germany is backing China.

Now stay out of my mind! :D
 
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And I will be sure to read it when you unleash it upon the forum. Though I was hoping for someone to attempt to answer all these questions. If nothing else, it might have the secondary effect of helping you build your TL.

Though I'm assuming in your TL, China is stronger than OTL? I believe an Axis China was Hitler's goal, but they disappointed him. Though I also heard he was hoping he could somehow talk both Japan and China into the Axis. Not to improve asian relations or anything, but to have as many potential invaders as possible when it came to invading the soviet Union.

I suppose I should learn more about WW2 China.

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As an addition to questions about a possible pro-Axis america in an Axis wins timeline, and the changes to society . . . Would there even be a Civil Rights movement anymore? Being close friends to those kinds of nations, could America attempt mass deportation to create a racially "pure" US? (I really can not see a potentially fascist America adopt a Final Solution of their own.)
 
And I will be sure to read it when you unleash it upon the forum. Though I was hoping for someone to attempt to answer all these questions. If nothing else, it might have the secondary effect of helping you build your TL.

Though I'm assuming in your TL, China is stronger than OTL? I believe an Axis China was Hitler's goal, but they disappointed him. Though I also heard he was hoping he could somehow talk both Japan and China into the Axis. Not to improve asian relations or anything, but to have as many potential invaders as possible when it came to invading the soviet Union.

I suppose I should learn more about WW2 China.

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As an addition to questions about a possible pro-Axis america in an Axis wins timeline, and the changes to society . . . Would there even be a Civil Rights movement anymore? Being close friends to those kinds of nations, could America attempt mass deportation to create a racially "pure" US? (I really can not see a potentially fascist America adopt a Final Solution of their own.)

These are some of my problems. I am still not sure if I want America to be full blown fascist (but with the changes I make to get America pro-German, it keeps turning out that way). And you are right about no final solution in America. You might also be right about civil rights in general; in my TL the conservatives in both parties unite in the 1936 elections. The basis for this unity (North and South) is federalism ie, the Southerners get to deal with race issues without any Northern intervetion.

Any ideas you have would be much appreciated.
 
I suppose a fascist leaning America would scapegoat non-whites pretty badly. Claiming they were primarily responsible for the Great Depression. Hmmm . . . If one assumes they go for the purity angle I'm sticking with the idea of mass deportation. They won't actively kill them but I doubt they'd go out of their way to make the journey pleasant or safe.

In order to maintain strong ties to Germany they'd probably get rid of the Jewish people as well if we're seeing deportations.

Depending on how friendly they are to whichever asian nation is in the Axis, there's a chance they'd make an exception for that nation's people.

As for the why? Well, Germany was pretty vocal about purity. Asian nations tend to be extremely homogeneous in their population. In an Axis friendly/victory timeline . . . America could very well be convinced that this is the way to go for a strong and prosperous future.

But social policies and the politics that shape them . . . Might not be my strong suit.

Maybe America seeks to annex all of North America? Canada because it's an Allied nation . . . Mexico and Central America so that they'll have a smaller border to guard? Although Southern expansion would definitely be gradual since they need time to kick out the non-whites and the women need time to churn out enough babies to replace the forcefully evicted populations. Because hey . . . If we're going to go bad we shouldn't pull any punches.
 
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A big part of why America is Anit-British in my TL will be anti-colonialism. When the new Conservative GOP/Conservative Southern Party takes over, one of the first two things to happen will be independence for Puerto Rico and the Philippines. The new administration will begin with the best of intentions...but it will probably go horribly wrong.

There will be no conquest for conquest sake. It will all be in the name of liberation.
 
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