Reverse Cold War-An Orignal, Non-cliched Timeline

Russia becoming a full out republic...

IMHO at the very most Russia can become a constitutional monarchy, but a republic is highly unlikely owing to how Russia was historically.

The earliest time for a Russian constitutional monarchy would be during the reign of Czar Alexander II, when important reforms were being passed. Assuming Alexander II survives the attempt on his life, gradual steps could be taken to make Russia into a constitutional monarchy.

But IMHO a republic is unlikely as it will be a challenge to remove the importance of the Czarist monarchy from Russian society, which was deeply engrained into the consciousness of Russians be they the lowly peasant or the highest noble.

A republic was a demand put forth mostly by Russian Marxists, who wanted to totally abolish the Czarist monarchy.

So yes, Russia could become a constitutional monarchy but it is unlikely that a republic would be created outright while the calls for the creation of a republic would be more or less limited to the Russian Marxist and/or socialist movement in the late 1800's/early 1900's.

the Russian people, tired of oppression and losing and inspired by the recent republican revolutions of America and France, had their own revolution, where Tsar Alexander I and the imperial family was overthrown.

Not to be too critical, esp. because the AH in general is a good concept, I don't think that with a POD in 1812 the Russian monarchy will be completely overthrown and replaced by a full-blown republic.

At that time, and in fact well into the late 1800's/early 1900's, many Russians were unswervingly loyal to the Czarist monarchy. It wasn't until the late 1800's/early 1900's, with the Russian famine of 1891-92 and the Russo-Japanese War which sparked the Russian Revolution of 1905, that people had begun to question the Czar's authority with the advent of socialist and/or Marxists parties (the Socialist-Revolutionaries, the Russian Social-Democratic Workers' Party, etc.) which served as opposition to both the Czarist monarchy ad well as capitalism in Russia.

It's rather early then, for Russia to become a republic in 1812. Nor would losing against the invading French forces severely hamper the Czarist monarchy's legitimacy (at the very least, Czar Alexander I's reputation would suffer amongst ordinary Russians but the Czarist monarchy which he represented would stay more or less intact)

So IMHO the assumption that Russia could/would become a republic with a POD in 1812 is a stretch for the reasons briefly outlined above.

Keep it up, and I hope to see further updates soon.
 
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Sorry, I've been a bit busy lately. I'll try to get another update later this week, or at least sometime in the next few weeks.
IMHO at the very most Russia can become a constitutional monarchy, but a republic is highly unlikely owing to how Russia was historically.

The earliest time for a Russian constitutional monarchy would be during the reign of Czar Alexander II, when important reforms were being passed. Assuming Alexander II survives the attempt on his life, gradual steps could be taken to make Russia into a constitutional monarchy.

But IMHO a republic is unlikely as it will be a challenge to remove the importance of the Czarist monarchy from Russian society, which was deeply engrained into the consciousness of Russians be they the lowly peasant or the highest noble.

A republic was a demand put forth mostly by Russian Marxists, who wanted to totally abolish the Czarist monarchy.

So yes, Russia could become a constitutional monarchy but it is unlikely that a republic would be created outright while the calls for the creation of a republic would be more or less limited to the Russian Marxist and/or socialist movement in the late 1800's/early 1900's.



Not to be too critical, esp. because the AH in general is a good concept, I don't think that with a POD in 1812 the Russian monarchy will be completely overthrown and replaced by a full-blown republic.

At that time, and in fact well into the late 1800's/early 1900's, many Russians were unswervingly loyal to the Czarist monarchy. It wasn't until the late 1800's/early 1900's, with the Russian famine of 1891-92 and the Russo-Japanese War which sparked the Russian Revolution of 1905, that people had begun to question the Czar's authority with the advent of socialist and/or Marxists parties (the Socialist-Revolutionaries, the Russian Social-Democratic Workers' Party, etc.) which served as opposition to both the Czarist monarchy ad well as capitalism in Russia.

It's rather early then, for Russia to become a republic in 1812. Nor would losing against the invading French forces severely hamper the Czarist monarchy's legitimacy (at the very least, Czar Alexander I's reputation would suffer amongst ordinary Russians but the Czarist monarchy which he represented would stay more or less intact)

So IMHO the assumption that Russia could/would become a republic with a POD in 1812 is a stretch for the reasons briefly outlined above.

Keep it up, and I hope to see further updates soon.
You're probably right about becoming a republic in 1812 now that I think about it. I had reasons for picking the Napoleonic Wars as a POD, though. I wanted the Russian Republic to be more or less the same age as the USA IOTL, two republican revolutions had just happened, Russia had been attacked and defeated, probably raising anti-tsarist feelings, I needed a POD far back enough for the USA and the UK to be on opposing sides of World War I from the start(ignoring butterflies), and I wanted to avoid the cliche of a post-WWI Kerenskyist republic surviving. But thanks for reading.
 
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I voite to keep it, but reform it like McArthur did
You know, that gives me an idea. Douglas MacArthur escapes to the Philippines after the Red Revolution in America, and later helps the Filipinos fight off the Japanese invaders. He would end up being a major Russian ally. How does that sound? Also, I like the idea of keeping the Emperor, since it allows the Japanese to not feel completely destroyed and humiliated by the Russians like Versailles did to Germany IOTL.
 

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You know, that gives me an idea. Douglas MacArthur escapes to the Philippines after the Red Revolution in America, and later helps the Filipinos fight off the Japanese invaders. He would end up being a major Russian ally. How does that sound? Also, I like the idea of keeping the Emperor, since it allows the Japanese to not feel completely destroyed and humiliated by the Russians like Versailles did to Germany IOTL.
hat actually sounds really good. Will Japan be limited to the islands of Hokkaido, Honshu Kyushu, Shikoku and Okinawa?
 
Though initially the French forces appear to overwhelm the Guyanese with their technological might and sheer numbers, the lack of their huge colonial empire and the enormous cost of sending aid and soldiers over to Guyana while Paris is still glowing puts them at a huge disadvantage, especially since de Gaulle’s pride refuses to allow him to accept Russian aid. Under the direction of the charismatic leader Jean-Pierre LeClaude, the Guyanese People’s Army and their American backers try to make the war as costly as possible for France, seen as the symbol of imperialist oppression that the communists are apparently fighting.


In South Africa, the large number of American immigrants, many of them “black”, throws a monkey wrench into things as they begin their “fight” for civil rights. Though racism was sadly all too common in America, especially before the Revolution, at least all men, regardless of race, had, in theory at least, all the rights stated in the Constitution of 1787. However, in South Africa, the “black” majority are forbidden from voting, and are treated extremely harshly. This leads to tensions rising between the American immigrants and the ruling “white” minority, with one Americo-South African newspaper even saying, “Not only has the old United States come to South Africa, it seems as though Mosleyist Britain has as well. Or, more accurately, we have only now discovered that fascism was in our own home all along!” Major anti-apartheid movements rise.


Egypt and Sudan begin talks of a merger, as part of their shared history and culture, and to act as a powerhouse in post-independence Africa. However, their main rival, Ethiopia, is not very happy with this new development.


Also in the Middle East, Christian majority Lebanon, Muslim majority Jordan and Jewish/Muslim Israel-Palestine meet at the Conference at Jerusalem to discuss the history and futures of three separate, but fundamentally similar, cultures in the same area.


Anti-communist guerrillas, mostly the same guerrillas who fought against the Japanese in World War II, begin to push the communists out of Australia, as inland Australia invades. The Australian-American War has begun.



American writer Jerry Siegel and Canadian-American artist Joe Shuster had created the character of “Superman” shortly before the American Revolution started. However, during the revolution, all “anti-revolutionary propaganda” was banned, including Superman. The two managed to send their ideas to a publishing company in Liberia, called “Freedom Comics”, which published them in the rest of the English speaking world, such as Australia, South Africa and Liberia itself, and published translated comics in Russia. The comics were such a hit that more Superman comics were read inside Russia than in the rest of the world combined. After World War II, both Siegel and Shuster managed to defect to South Africa, where they resumed making Superman comics. The original, American version of Superman continues to be used by the American anti-communist rebel group, the Sons of Liberty, as a symbol of liberty and to try and bring the American people over to their cause. The comics remain in circulation, despite the American government’s repeated attempts to ban and destroy them.
 
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Zeldar155

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You know, Superman was originally a character with a socialist-ish message, he could've been used as a propaganda figure for the American Government as a "Socialist Superman" fighting inequality, etc.
 
You know, Superman was originally a character with a socialist-ish message, he could've been used as a propaganda figure for the American Government as a "Socialist Superman" fighting inequality, etc.
I know. I'm planning on using a picture of the "Red Son" Superman as the American government's take. The Sons of Liberty version isn't exactly the original, either, but it's closer to than the other version.
 
Something a little bit different. I've been taking a little break from this TL, but here's the beginning of a more realistic RCW with a POD in 1905. I promise that I will get back to this TL, though.

The Russian Revolution of 1905 is completely successful. Russia is now a functioning democracy with the czar only being a purely ceremonial head of state, with no real power. Russia does not join the Triple Entente and remains neutral during World War I, instead focusing on industrializing and modernizing. Poland secedes from Russia, and Finland and Ukraine attempt to do the same, but end up being defeated by the Russians, and so remain a part of the Empire. Poland falls under German influence, to avoid being retaken by Russia.
 
What is? A fully successful democratic revolution in Russia but the tsar gets to stay? Would it work better if Nicolas was killed and Michael became tsar?

Having Poland and Finland leave.

Maybe a civil war in 1905 with the Tsar completely overthrown and the Republic allowing Poland and Finland leave in exchange for troops and supplies and an alliance.
 
Having Poland and Finland leave.

Maybe a civil war in 1905 with the Tsar completely overthrown and the Republic allowing Poland and Finland leave in exchange for troops and supplies and an alliance.
Okay, that might work.
There wouldn't be a World War 1 without Russia. At least one without Russia would be radically different from OTL.
I know, that's why I have a different World War I in mind.
 
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