Vexacus
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No problems, I look forward to the next update eagerlyPossibly. I haven't decided yet. And thanks for reading.
No problems, I look forward to the next update eagerlyPossibly. I haven't decided yet. And thanks for reading.
Russia becoming a full out republic...
the Russian people, tired of oppression and losing and inspired by the recent republican revolutions of America and France, had their own revolution, where Tsar Alexander I and the imperial family was overthrown.
Sorry, I've been a bit busy lately. I'll try to get another update later this week, or at least sometime in the next few weeks.Bumping for the next update
You're probably right about becoming a republic in 1812 now that I think about it. I had reasons for picking the Napoleonic Wars as a POD, though. I wanted the Russian Republic to be more or less the same age as the USA IOTL, two republican revolutions had just happened, Russia had been attacked and defeated, probably raising anti-tsarist feelings, I needed a POD far back enough for the USA and the UK to be on opposing sides of World War I from the start(ignoring butterflies), and I wanted to avoid the cliche of a post-WWI Kerenskyist republic surviving. But thanks for reading.IMHO at the very most Russia can become a constitutional monarchy, but a republic is highly unlikely owing to how Russia was historically.
The earliest time for a Russian constitutional monarchy would be during the reign of Czar Alexander II, when important reforms were being passed. Assuming Alexander II survives the attempt on his life, gradual steps could be taken to make Russia into a constitutional monarchy.
But IMHO a republic is unlikely as it will be a challenge to remove the importance of the Czarist monarchy from Russian society, which was deeply engrained into the consciousness of Russians be they the lowly peasant or the highest noble.
A republic was a demand put forth mostly by Russian Marxists, who wanted to totally abolish the Czarist monarchy.
So yes, Russia could become a constitutional monarchy but it is unlikely that a republic would be created outright while the calls for the creation of a republic would be more or less limited to the Russian Marxist and/or socialist movement in the late 1800's/early 1900's.
Not to be too critical, esp. because the AH in general is a good concept, I don't think that with a POD in 1812 the Russian monarchy will be completely overthrown and replaced by a full-blown republic.
At that time, and in fact well into the late 1800's/early 1900's, many Russians were unswervingly loyal to the Czarist monarchy. It wasn't until the late 1800's/early 1900's, with the Russian famine of 1891-92 and the Russo-Japanese War which sparked the Russian Revolution of 1905, that people had begun to question the Czar's authority with the advent of socialist and/or Marxists parties (the Socialist-Revolutionaries, the Russian Social-Democratic Workers' Party, etc.) which served as opposition to both the Czarist monarchy ad well as capitalism in Russia.
It's rather early then, for Russia to become a republic in 1812. Nor would losing against the invading French forces severely hamper the Czarist monarchy's legitimacy (at the very least, Czar Alexander I's reputation would suffer amongst ordinary Russians but the Czarist monarchy which he represented would stay more or less intact)
So IMHO the assumption that Russia could/would become a republic with a POD in 1812 is a stretch for the reasons briefly outlined above.
Keep it up, and I hope to see further updates soon.
Not yet, but the Russians are debating on whether to abolish the position or not.What about the Emperor of Japan? has it been abolished?
I voite to keep it, but reform it like McArthur didNot yet, but the Russians are debating on whether to abolish the position or not.
You know, that gives me an idea. Douglas MacArthur escapes to the Philippines after the Red Revolution in America, and later helps the Filipinos fight off the Japanese invaders. He would end up being a major Russian ally. How does that sound? Also, I like the idea of keeping the Emperor, since it allows the Japanese to not feel completely destroyed and humiliated by the Russians like Versailles did to Germany IOTL.I voite to keep it, but reform it like McArthur did
hat actually sounds really good. Will Japan be limited to the islands of Hokkaido, Honshu Kyushu, Shikoku and Okinawa?You know, that gives me an idea. Douglas MacArthur escapes to the Philippines after the Red Revolution in America, and later helps the Filipinos fight off the Japanese invaders. He would end up being a major Russian ally. How does that sound? Also, I like the idea of keeping the Emperor, since it allows the Japanese to not feel completely destroyed and humiliated by the Russians like Versailles did to Germany IOTL.
Probably. I want to limit them to the Home Islands.hat actually sounds really good. Will Japan be limited to the islands of Hokkaido, Honshu Kyushu, Shikoku and Okinawa?
I know. I'm planning on using a picture of the "Red Son" Superman as the American government's take. The Sons of Liberty version isn't exactly the original, either, but it's closer to than the other version.You know, Superman was originally a character with a socialist-ish message, he could've been used as a propaganda figure for the American Government as a "Socialist Superman" fighting inequality, etc.
What is? A fully successful democratic revolution in Russia but the tsar gets to stay? Would it work better if Nicolas was killed and Michael became tsar?That's... pretty hard to pull-off... I'm just saying.
What is? A fully successful democratic revolution in Russia but the tsar gets to stay? Would it work better if Nicolas was killed and Michael became tsar?
Okay, that might work.Having Poland and Finland leave.
Maybe a civil war in 1905 with the Tsar completely overthrown and the Republic allowing Poland and Finland leave in exchange for troops and supplies and an alliance.
I know, that's why I have a different World War I in mind.There wouldn't be a World War 1 without Russia. At least one without Russia would be radically different from OTL.