Reverse Barbarossa 1940

Basically what the title says. Stalin backstabs Hitler in 1940. Let's say it happens right after the invasion of France, as soon as Stalin is convinced the Nazis have committed to war in France, but before it sinks in how bad the Allies are versus Blitzkrieg. Soviets are lacking their later organization, but they get to avoid the disasters of Barbarossa. What happens?
 
The war in the West was over before anyone, let alone Stalin had realized it had actually begun.

And Stalin wouldn't stab Hitler in the back in 1940, if ever.
 

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The war in the West was over before anyone, let alone Stalin had realized it had actually begun.
This says 90% of what needs to be said here and The Winter War says the rest; if you can’t know over nine understrength divisions wholly lacking artillery, you are not in any state to go starting wars against anyone.
 
Stalin would backstab Hitler, but only once he was sure the Nazi's wouldn't stand a chance.

He has made bad calculations before, its not impossible (if he didn't attack Finland) that he would plan to hit Hitler at a time where his forces were mainly committed to the West which would force Hitler to move forces East and thus in Stalin's mind force him to wage an unwinnable two front war. The only problem which such a plan is Germany won against France quicker then Stalin or almost anyone predicted. So, then Germany would be able to move all its forces against the Red Army which would be overstreached.

My prediction if this happened... the 1940 campaigning season would go very bad for the USSR and the 1941 campaigning season would go worse. FDR wouldn't have the support to give Lend Lease to the Soviet's given they attacked Germany and Hitler wouldn't declare war on the U.S. after Pearl Habor.

This would be a war Germany could win if Hitler is willing to make peace with Stalin at the end of the 1941 campaigning season. If he keeps fighting into 1942 and 43 he will lose as the U.S. will after a u-boat sinking or two on U.S. ships declare war sometime in 42 or 43 if Germany is still fighting in Russia and the UK won't come to the table as long as Germany is fighting in Russia and they are getting Lend Lease.
 
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