Would it not remain the same?Would anyone want to make a flag for a nationalist, though isolationist / pacifist America?
Would it not remain the same?Would anyone want to make a flag for a nationalist, though isolationist / pacifist America?
Would it not remain the same?
Because the real world doesn't operate under HOI4 logic? Generally speaking, countries only adopt new flags when they need too -- it's generally expensive to replace every flag at every facility required by law to have flags (every school, military base, etc.)I mean, why would it?
Because the real world doesn't operate under HOI4 logic? Generally speaking, countries only adopt new flags when they need too -- it's generally expensive to replace every flag at every facility required by law to have flags (every school, military base, etc.)
There are generally reasons why flags change and a new administration tends not to be one.In my rule the multiverse is vast enough so every possibility is possible, within reason. So, I don't really pay attention to that. Just a flag concept or idea, too. It's not like we have to take realism everywhere and into every little detail so I can see what a flag might look like.
There are generally reasons why flags change and a new administration tends not to be one.
Rebellions, coups, restorations, and constitutional changes are the big ones. Which causes your America?
@Tiro
That idea for the Northern Confederation doesn't quite work as it gives the impression of being a NE dominion over Britain. Ensigns have the mother country in the canton with local national symbols outside (see the old Canadian Red Ensign and the current Australian and New Zealand ones). So the plain NE flag would work or perhaps a Red Ensign bearing a pine tree if instead of the Northern Confederation Arms.
Indeed. They might even go as far to have the sentinel pine alone.Well my understanding is that the CNA was formed after an unsuccessful American War of Independence, so my theory was that the Northern & Southern Confederations might well make little symbolic points like this a sort "Well we've patched things up but don't take us for granted" gesture directed at Great Britain - but your point is well taken and I do appreciate your taking time to share this thought with me.
So may I please ask if you think that a 'Red Ensign' with a white shield bearing a cross of St George in red upon the field (and the classic 'Sentinel Pine' in the upper left quarter of that shield) might be more practicable? (I know this is more of a 'New England' look, but have difficulty thinking of another pan-Northeastern symbol of roughly the right date - 1780s - that was not associated with the American Revolution).
I'm not sure the logic of them joining the Allies holds considering.Well, in this situation let us say that the US is overthrown by a fascist / nationalist / isolationist sort of combination of ideology during the great depression. This ideology is not helped by Germany or the other fascists. This government bans all communist activities and begins improving the economy. They still embargo Japan, and still join the allies. However, they have a rather anti-war stance after the war.
I'm not sure the logic of them joining the Allies holds considering.
That aside what I see is them placing the Great Seal on field of the 13 stripes.
Alternatively, something like this:
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Can someone make a flag for a heugenot nation in the American South?
A surviving "France Antarctique" in Brazil?
I was thinking more of in the deep south of the USA but that works too.
Would anyone want to make a flag for a nationalist, though isolationist / pacifist America?
If it would remain the same, why would I have asked?
Would it not remain the same?
I am, however, a bit stumped by the Southern Confederation - my instinct was to go with another Red Ensign (albeit this one with a more proper Union Jack in the canton) with a heraldic shield in the field, but could not for the life of me work out what device or devices that shield should bear; may I please ask if you have any advice on that score, dear reader?
If I might offer a 'No-prize' suggestion to smooth over this world building issue, this could be the Party flag rather than a new National flag.