Request Maps/Flags/Coats of Arms/Heraldry here, II

[Gokbay]

Ok so I tried to make the first of my requested coat of arms but due to me only having access to MS Paint it wasn't very good.
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Could someone improve this? Mostly by making the Lion the same size as the Tiger and getting rid of the pixel remnants, making it look like a coat of arms a nation would actually use. Also a British Blue Ensign flag with either just the shield or the full coat of arms would be nice as well but if you just provide the improved coat of arms it would be enough.

The request in general still stands, just tried to do it a little with limited success.

Asking again. Could someone help improve this coat of arms? Make the Lion same size as the Tiger, the rest should be general visual improvements.

Also the same Coat of Arms but with another shield to the sinister of this with the Tiger moved to support the sinister of that shield. the Crown to the middle of the two shields (maybe also larger). This shield should have a separate banner with the motto "Loyalty First". This shield should include the flag of Papua New Guinea, flag of the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (6 white stars on a light blue background), coat of arms of Kiribati, coat of arms of Fiji, coat of arms of Solomon Islands and coat of arms of French Polynesia. The first two should be on the dexter while the other 4 on the sinister.
Another version of this double one but with the flag of Aceh (star, crescent, sword; white on red) added in the Malaysian (dexter, the one shown here, not the one I want added) coat of arms, dexter of Singapore. The three divisions showing Sabah, Singapore and Sarawak should be four showing the former three and Aceh.

Also a fully separate coat of arms. With the same crown and banner reading "Loyalty First". With the coat of arms of Kiribati, coat of arms of Fiji, coat of arms of Solomon Islands and the coat of arms of Tonga (just the blazon in all cases) on the blazon, quarterly. With supporters being a British/English lion (as in this coat of arms) and a shark.


Of these only the first one (improvement on the one in the post I quoted) is very important to me. Others would be nice and appreciated but are not as important.

 

[Uru Hammer]

I was looking for flag context of the time, and it seemed like stars were already in use. Of course, I have since closed the browser windows. But, I kind of like the idea that if it were an alternate timeline, the nation that might eventually develop would still use stars for its states/provinces/districts.

I almost used eight pointed stars. And I almost used a single eight pointed star.

EDIT: I went for a quick look again, and stars were not in use that I can see for anything French. So perhaps no stars, unless it was specifically to set the new lands apart. I still think your design kicks butt. Maybe later, I'll redo mine with 6 pointed or 8 pointed stars. Gotta do actual work type work for a bit.

 

[FriendlyGhost]

Asking again. Could someone help improve this coat of arms? Make the Lion same size as the Tiger, the rest should be general visual improvements.

Also the same Coat of Arms but with another shield to the sinister of this with the Tiger moved to support the sinister of that shield. the Crown to the middle of the two shields (maybe also larger). This shield should have a separate banner with the motto "Loyalty First". This shield should include the flag of Papua New Guinea, flag of the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (6 white stars on a light blue background), coat of arms of Kiribati, coat of arms of Fiji, coat of arms of Solomon Islands and coat of arms of French Polynesia. The first two should be on the dexter while the other 4 on the sinister.
Another version of this double one but with the flag of Aceh (star, crescent, sword; white on red) added in the Malaysian (dexter, the one shown here, not the one I want added) coat of arms, dexter of Singapore. The three divisions showing Sabah, Singapore and Sarawak should be four showing the former three and Aceh.

Also a fully separate coat of arms. With the same crown and banner reading "Loyalty First". With the coat of arms of Kiribati, coat of arms of Fiji, coat of arms of Solomon Islands and the coat of arms of Tonga (just the blazon in all cases) on the blazon, quarterly. With supporters being a British/English lion (as in this coat of arms) and a shark.


Of these only the first one (improvement on the one in the post I quoted) is very important to me. Others would be nice and appreciated but are not as important.

Depending on how things go with home-schooling the children and working at home over the next ??? weeks, I might be able to do something with this. It won't be this week though, sorry.

 

[Cantra]

@Uru Hammer

Very interesting flag designs! What would it look like if you were to combine both of them?

 

[Tairo]

Can anyone make a Norse Rainbow Crow flag? That is the Norse Raven Standard replaced with a Lenape Rainbow Crow.

 

[Uru Hammer]

@Uru Hammer

Very interesting flag designs! What would it look like if you were to combine both of them?

Don't mind if I do.

 

[Uru Hammer]

Can anyone make a Norse Rainbow Crow flag? That is the Norse Raven Standard replaced with a Lenape Rainbow Crow.

Do you have a particular stylized Lenape Rainbow Crow in mind?

 

[Tairo]

Anything would work really. I'd prefer to have the the RC in the northwest corner of the flag. As I have no artistic talent to speak of, I'll leave the rest of the flag up to artist's discretion. As my TL has an explicitly pagan Vinland/North America I'd prefer avoid the Nordic cross.

 

[Uru Hammer]

Anything would work really. I'd prefer to have the the RC in the northwest corner of the flag. As I have no artistic talent to speak of, I'll leave the rest of the flag up to artist's discretion. As my TL has an explicitly pagan Vinland/North America I'd prefer avoid the Nordic cross.

Here's one attempt.

 

[Tairo]

That is wonderful, thank you!

Spoiler

Svássland has a banner

 

[Uru Hammer]

@Uru Hammer

Very interesting flag designs! What would it look like if you were to combine both of them?

Okay, just one more. I got to talking this one over with a friend of mine who is into history, and after discussing it for a while, I found myself interested in coming back to one of the designs and making changes. So, I will share again:

 

[Hindustani Person]

I'm not sure whether this is where I should ask but what's a good and easy way to make flags in Photoshop?

 

[Gokbay]

Depending on how things go with home-schooling the children and working at home over the next ??? weeks, I might be able to do something with this. It won't be this week though, sorry.

Thank you, I understand how you can't do something immediately. If possible could you also have the coat of arms on a British Blue Ensign? Sorry about asking more.

 

[Marc Pasquin]

I'm not sure whether this is where I should ask but what's a good and easy way to make flags in Photoshop?

Are you looking for specific advice ? generally speaking:
- using the RGB palette is less distracting as you don't need millions of colours for flags.
- when you open a new image, make it 300 DPI and at least 3 time larger in terms of pixel than what the end image you need will be (ex: if you want the end result to be 400x600, make your work in progress image 1200x1800 then downscale it when you save a copy of it). As photoshop makes raster images, you can save as something smaller but if you save it as a larger image, it will get pixelated.
- save images as PNG, never as JPG otherwise you will end up with visible compression artefacts on large area of a single colour.
- when making an image, keep every distinct element in a separate layer. Its easier to modified one element that way later down the road. If you have a large number of elements that are part of a whole (ex: a coat of arms). group them together so it is easier to navigate through them and so that you can modified all of them as the same time if you need (ex: resizing)
- related to the previous entry, if you have a lot of elements, rename each layer so you know what it is at a glance. "vertical band-blue" is easier to remember than "layer 36".
- If you are just modifying the design of an existing flag, you can probably find a version of it on wikipedia. Although most flags are displayed as vector SVG images, if you go the the image page itself, their should be options to save it to your computer as a PNG image of varying size (always pick the largest one). Try to avoid taking non-open source images as people might taken offence to it if they find out and issue a take-down notice (I do)

 

[Christory]

Has anyone got a Worlda pinpointing the location of Devner, Colorado? If not, at least a Worlda pinpointing the locations of other American cities?

 

[The Conqueror Wormhole]

Can somebody make a flag incorporating this dragon for an independent Pa'O nation?

 

[The Professor]

Are you looking for specific advice ? generally speaking:
- using the RGB palette is less distracting as you don't need millions of colours for flags.
- when you open a new image, make it 300 DPI and at least 3 time larger in terms of pixel than what the end image you need will be (ex: if you want the end result to be 400x600, make your work in progress image 1200x1800 then downscale it when you save a copy of it). As photoshop makes raster images, you can save as something smaller but if you save it as a larger image, it will get pixelated.
- save images as PNG, never as JPG otherwise you will end up with visible compression artefacts on large area of a single colour.
- when making an image, keep every distinct element in a separate layer. Its easier to modified one element that way later down the road. If you have a large number of elements that are part of a whole (ex: a coat of arms). group them together so it is easier to navigate through them and so that you can modified all of them as the same time if you need (ex: resizing)
- related to the previous entry, if you have a lot of elements, rename each layer so you know what it is at a glance. "vertical band-blue" is easier to remember than "layer 36".
- If you are just modifying the design of an existing flag, you can probably find a version of it on wikipedia. Although most flags are displayed as vector SVG images, if you go the the image page itself, their should be options to save it to your computer as a PNG image of varying size (always pick the largest one). Try to avoid taking non-open source images as people might taken offence to it if they find out and issue a take-down notice (I do)

This is pretty much it. Though I'd make clear having an original file with the layers (psd files etc) with saving copy merge versions as separate pngs.
@Red Arturoist since you created this particular thread please threadmark Marc's post for any future reference. Thx

 

[FriendlyGhost]

Thank you, I understand how you can't do something immediately. If possible could you also have the coat of arms on a British Blue Ensign? Sorry about asking more.

No problem - once the CoA is done, putting it on an ensign is easy. Just let me know which one/ones you want on ensigns.
One question: you ask for the British royal crown but the CoA of the Federated Malay States used a very different crown - is there a particular reason you want a British* crown?

*I assume you mean the one usually referred to as the British crown, which is actually the English St Edward's crown from 1661; the Scottish crown, dating from 1503, is different.

 

[Gokbay]

No problem - once the CoA is done, putting it on an ensign is easy. Just let me know which one/ones you want on ensigns.
One question: you ask for the British royal crown but the CoA of the Federated Malay States used a very different crown - is there a particular reason you want a British* crown?

*I assume you mean the one usually referred to as the British crown, which is actually the English St Edward's crown from 1661; the Scottish crown, dating from 1503, is different.

I did mean the St Edward's Crown yes. As to why I want That instead of the one used in Federated Malay States is that it is for a Timeline I am planning. In which there is a communist revolution in Britain. After WW2 Quebec, North Island of New Zealand and New South Wales all fell to communists while India gained full independence. South Africa also declared itself a republic. Therefore the Royal Family didn't have much safe places to escape to but all of Malaysia had remained loyal as of yet. With Loyalist/Capitalist parts of Canada/Australia/New Zealand all being Dominions; Pacific Islands (more than OTL, almost all of the Pacific), Hong Kong, Malaya and all of Borneo (Dutch parts gained in WW2) were basically all that remained under direct British rule. As such the UK Government-in-Exile (along with the Royal Family) centered itself in Singapore. Until the fall of the British Soviet Union thats were the government was based on. After that happened the United Kingdom was restored in Great Britain but Malaysia and Pacifica was granted independence as a Dominion. Malay "Elective" Monarchy from OTL was used for the position of Governor-General instead of Sovereign as OTL Malaysia. Pacific Islands (Polynesia, Malenesia, Micronesia), Aceh (another gain from the Dutch) and Papua later left this union and became independent (with all but Aceh as dominions) but Malaysia (with the capital in Singapore) remains an important Dominion/Commonwealth Realm of the British Commonwealth.

 

[FriendlyGhost]

I did mean the St Edward's Crown yes. As to why I want That instead of the one used in Federated Malay States is that it is for a Timeline I am planning. In which there is a communist revolution in Britain. After WW2 Quebec, North Island of New Zealand and New South Wales all fell to communists while India gained full independence. South Africa also declared itself a republic. Therefore the Royal Family didn't have much safe places to escape to but all of Malaysia had remained loyal as of yet. With Loyalist/Capitalist parts of Canada/Australia/New Zealand all being Dominions; Pacific Islands (more than OTL, almost all of the Pacific), Hong Kong, Malaya and all of Borneo (Dutch parts gained in WW2) were basically all that remained under direct British rule. As such the UK Government-in-Exile (along with the Royal Family) centered itself in Singapore. Until the fall of the British Soviet Union thats were the government was based on. After that happened the United Kingdom was restored in Great Britain but Malaysia and Pacifica was granted independence as a Dominion. Malay "Elective" Monarchy from OTL was used for the position of Governor-General instead of Sovereign as OTL Malaysia. Pacific Islands (Polynesia, Malenesia, Micronesia), Aceh (another gain from the Dutch) and Papua later left this union and became independent (with all but Aceh as dominions) but Malaysia (with the capital in Singapore) remains an important Dominion/Commonwealth Realm of the British Commonwealth.

Okay - I'll try to get started on it after the weekend.
One small point about your TL, not the flag - 'Soviet' is a Russian word for 'council' so it wouldn't make much sense to have a British Soviet Union - maybe try something like 'People's Republic of Britain' or 'British Workers Republic'? Unless you have a particular reason for this, of course, in which case ignore my pedantry!