Request for advice on the following fleets between 1920 and 1945

2 G3 Class Battlecruisers (16 inch)

2 Admiral Class Battlecruisers (15 inch)

2 Renown Class Battlecruisers (15 inch)

5 Queen Elizabeth Class Battleships (15 inch)

5 Revenge Class Battleships (15 inch)

6 King George V Class Battleships (16 inch)


Now the above list does not include losses of which there must be some, nor does it take into account that some ships may be disposed of earlier, the Renown and Repulse for example, or that some other sort of capital ship may be added between 1930 and 1940, possibly a group of "Treaty" ships with 14 inch guns.

Also the RN in TTL will have had control of the FAA since 1923 at the latest and so will be more "carrier friendly" with at least eight large aircraft carriers in commission by 1943, again baring losses.

Now that I've written it down I can't see that Vanguard would be built even if the turrets are there. The RN here has three extra BC and one extra BS for use.

I think the KGV's were meant to replace the R class due to the fact that they had limited upgrade-ability, which gives you a timing problem due to the London treaty and fitting 16" gun's. but I don't see how with extra existing battleships and carriers that the RN could fund a 14".
 
I think the KGV's were meant to replace the R class due to the fact that they had limited upgrade-ability, which gives you a timing problem due to the London treaty and fitting 16" gun's. but I don't see how with extra existing battleships and carriers that the RN could fund a 14".

The KGV's will be built a little while later than OTL under the Escalator Clause. The 14 inch gets a mention because David Poepoe put forth that they're an important gun for the RN and the idea of some sort of British Alaska/Pocket Battleship has a certain appeal, however as thought here seems to be focusing increasingly on the 16 inch then the 14 inch might not emerge.
 
The KGV's will be built a little while later than OTL under the Escalator Clause. The 14 inch gets a mention because David Poepoe put forth that they're an important gun for the RN and the idea of some sort of British Alaska/Pocket Battleship has a certain appeal, however as thought here seems to be focusing increasingly on the 16 inch then the 14 inch might not emerge.

I don't see the appeal of Pocket Battleship to the RN. Germany built them for raiding and because they were the first new heavy ships Germany had built. And the Alaska's apart from being considered poor ships, were also being built by a navy that had plenty of slips and money. I don't think the UK could fund a battleship that isn't able to stand in the line.
 
I don't see the appeal of Pocket Battleship to the RN. Germany built them for raiding and because they were the first new heavy ships Germany had built. And the Alaska's apart from being considered poor ships, were also being built by a navy that had plenty of slips and money. I don't think the UK could fund a battleship that isn't able to stand in the line.

Concur. The only reasons I can see for building such a class of warships in the period between 1928 and 1934 are to preserve capital ship building skills in the yards, provide work as New Deal style projects and to have a class of ship for counter surface raider convoy duty.
 
Concur. The only reasons I can see for building such a class of warships in the period between 1928 and 1934 are to preserve capital ship building skills in the yards, provide work as New Deal style projects and to have a class of ship for counter surface raider convoy duty.

Wouldn't this still be in the building holiday of capital ships? I would think that if the RN is more concerned about surface raiders then a new 8" cruiser or cvl's.
I think that some heavy cruisers were cancelled during this time in OTL so that could keep the yards going.
 
Wouldn't this still be in the building holiday of capital ships? I would think that if the RN is more concerned about surface raiders then a new 8" cruiser or cvl's.
I think that some heavy cruisers were cancelled during this time in OTL so that could keep the yards going.

I've not thought much on smaller units as yet but I think you're right. The 14 inch gun is dead.
 
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