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what if Abrahamic religions were Republican instead of being monarchic with Israel and Judea being Republics instead of Monarchies ,Judaism incorporating those ideals and Christianity, Islam continuing them.
How would this effect religion and world history
 
IDK, the God of Abraham is very much a monarch, and that's a trait that's all over the Bible and the Qur'an.

At most, you could have the Jews try to reestablish the Biblical kritarchy after one of the historical monarchs fucks up, recognizing no king but the Lord, or have the early Muslim councils of the faithful fill a similar role for more or less the same reason.
 
IDK, the God of Abraham is very much a monarch, and that's a trait that's all over the Bible and the Qur'an.
One could make an argument that there's a republican strain running through the Bible and the Qur'an thanks to that very trait. No king but God has been a rallying cry for many peasants over the centuries.
 
what if Abrahamic religions were Republican instead of being monarchic with Israel and Judea being Republics instead of Monarchies ,Judaism incorporating those ideals and Christianity, Islam continuing them.
How would this effect religion and world history

Stop spamming low-content threads. You need to limit yourself to one thread a day or post these one-liner questions in the Misc thread.
 
sorry i live in a different time zone which one does the forum use so i can do it right and is 1 one-liner a day ok ?
Time zone doesn't matter, a day is a 24-hour period. There are misc threads if you want to post one-liners. Consider doing that instead of trying to litigate exactly how much garbage you can post.
 
I always thought the Bible had a level of exasperation in the subject of monarchs, with them only starting in Judea because of Jews being insistent they wanted one rather than relying upon Judges.
 
There are two forms of democracy that are evident in Abrahamic religions, specifically Judaism and Islam. (I am less familiar with Christian-specific forms of democracy.)

One is Kritarchy, which is a particularly Jewish form of pseudodemocracy, seen in both the pre-monarchy rule by shoftim and the post-exilic Sanhedrin / rabbinic structure of beit din. In brief, political leaders generate popular support through their scholarship as as mediated through local (beit din) and national (Sanhedrin) courts of law, such that society functions in a decentralized manner with interpersonal conflicts being addressed through litigation, including suits by community scholars against individuals who are accused of committing sin (i.e. as opposed to formal agents of the State prosecuting criminals for violations of law). It is considered normative within Judaism that a proper Torah-observant monarch (including the Messiah) would not interfere with the kritarchy structure at either the local or national level, maintaining a separation between the Executive (monarch) and the Legislative-Judicial (kritarchy) branches of Judaic government.

Another is shura - where Islamic rulers conferred with varying levels of councilors and community representatives in their adjudication and interpretation of sharia. This ranges in scope from within the family unit to the royal council advising a monarch or Caliph. Many modern Muslims have compared and contrasted this with modern liberal democracy, noting that God is sovereign and not the People. (I am still learning about this and know very little; it would be invaluable for a Muslim on this board to expand on this concept.)

In both systems, to the best of my understanding, the development of various schools of jurisprudence indicate some degree of community-driven interpretation of scriptural law and regionalism in its application.

Both can be analogized, however roughly, to the development of constitutional monarchy and parliamentary democracy in the Anglosphere: God, the sovereign monarch, adheres and instructs our society to adhere to the laws in scripture, analogous to a constitution, and various institutions of community leadership adjudicate conflicts within society pursuant to that constitution.
 
All of you described theocracies. Not Republics. Torah, Bible and Quran should have verses similar to Preamble of United States Declaration of Independence
 
All of you described theocracies. Not Republics. Torah, Bible and Quran should have verses similar to Preamble of United States Declaration of Independence
What is a republic? What does rule of the people mean?

No king but God is how most people justified republican government before the modern world. Indeed, one can argue that even America's Declaration of Independence takes for granted the idea of rights being self-evident precisely because we were all created by one God, which again is rooted in Abrahamic traditions.
 
What is a republic? What does rule of the people mean?
maybe they can substite governed with contributers and link voting to taxation
No king but God is how most people justified republican government before the modern world
God and consent of the poeple can be linked .God appoints a king in Deuteronomy 17:14-15 only because the people ask for it. It can be interpreted as God acting according their consent
Indeed, one can argue that even America's Declaration of Independence takes for granted the idea of rights being self-evident precisely because we were all created by one God, which again is rooted in Abrahamic traditions.
it was written by deist not a christian
 
how so ? the first Amendment goes against the first commandment
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Anyway, Im not saying the constitution is abrahamic, christian or whatever, just that it could have abrahamic roots even if writen by a deist
Heck you could have something thats the polar opposite to abrahamic religions and it could still be rooted on it, an obvious example being satanism
 
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Anyway, Im not saying the constitution is abrahamic, christian or whatever, just that it could have abrahamic roots even if writen by a deist
Heck you could have something thats the polar opposite to abrahamic religions and it could still be rooted on it, an obvious example being satanism
you still didn't prove the " Abrahamic roots " of american constitution
 
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