Republic of Texas Native American Relations

In a continental Republic of Texas, (Gulf to Pacific) how would Texas treat the Native American tribes. Would Indian relations be determined by what political party was in power or would Texas just forcibly remove all tribes?
 
Seeing how Texas was the result of American expansionist tendencies and led by cattle drivers and miners, Natives woul$d be fucked if they were atop something valuable.
 
In a continental Republic of Texas, (Gulf to Pacific) how would Texas treat the Native American tribes. Would Indian relations be determined by what political party was in power or would Texas just forcibly remove all tribes?

Really does depend on who's leading the country and past interactions with said Natives.
Sadly, TBH, I don't think the Comanches would ever have it easy, mainly thanks to the fact that they did constantly attack Texian settlements during the early days of the Republic. And many smaller tribes might not make it regardless of how badly or how well they may be treated.

There may, however, be some hope for the Apaches, the Lipan in particular; after all, one of their chieftains DID save the life of a well-respected Texas Ranger once,, during the Revolution, and if you can avoid a few incidents that occurred in the Austin area in 1841, in which said chief and one of his fellows were accused of murders actually committed by rogue Comanches, then they might not only do okay, but maybe thrive as well.
 

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In a continental Republic of Texas, (Gulf to Pacific) how would Texas treat the Native American tribes. Would Indian relations be determined by what political party was in power or would Texas just forcibly remove all tribes?

Only if you mean that as a euphemism.

The answer is that Texas would strive to be "The White Man's State", enslavement and slaughter are the only outcomes to native peoples in the Filibuster Republic.
 
Forcibly remove at best. Sam Houston might have been sympathetic to the Indians, but he was backed by neither a broad political coalition nor public sympathy in this matter. The only questions are when Texas gets its shit together enough to crush the Indians, and when they do whether they'll expel them, kill them all, or set up reservations (probably not).
 
I don't think a continental Texas republic is doable, considering how according to Empire of the Summer Moon, independent Texas was still raided repeatedly by Mexico.

Also according to Empire, there was an attempt to demarcate a formal boundary between Texas and Comancheria, but it didn't seem to have come to anything. The Texans were rather brutal toward Indians, at one point retaliating against an innocent tribe for a raid by another one and killing Comanche leaders coming to negotiate a peaceful settlement, but the Comanche themselves were very dangerous opponents, at one point raiding all the way to Galveston.
 
Only if you mean that as a euphemism.

The answer is that Texas would strive to be "The White Man's State", enslavement and slaughter are the only outcomes to native peoples in the Filibuster Republic.

Not necessarily, to be honest. I mean, yes, that IS a potential outcome, don't get me wrong, but it's not the only one.

The most realistic scenario I can think of, is yes, sadly some tribes, the Comanches in particular, do certainly get chased out, or worse, left to be slaughtered by gangs of particularly gung-ho white settlers. But this may not happen with all of them; Texas history buffs may recall the story of how an Apache chief, Flacco, rescued a famous Texas Ranger by the name of Jack Hays during the Texas Revolution. That by itself may be a "saving grace" as it were. And, if you can try not to get too many hardcore reactionaries in the government(not easy but doable), some tribes, at least, may not fare as badly as they did IOTL, even if not doing really well in the end.
 
Setting aside the issue of whether or not Texas could successfully establish a nation stretching West from the Gulf to the Ocean, regrettably, I think that the general Texan policy would be to forcibly remove or eradicate any Indians who stood in the way of or resisted the nation's progress and settlement.
 
a Texas that stretched to the Pacific would include a huge expanse of rather useless (to whites) desert land. I'd imagine that chunks of this would be left to the natives. It's likely that TX would fight a lot of punitive campaigns to keep the natives quiet on their reservations (as the USA did in OTL), but it's not likely that they would expel them from those unwanted desert lands...
 
Only if you mean that as a euphemism

I do, I wanted to avoid Genocide.

Seeing how Texas was the result of American expansionist tendencies and led by cattle drivers and miners, Natives woul$d be fucked if they were atop something valuable.

Agreed, when the Gold/Silver strikes occur, the Indians well have to make themselves scarce.

Forcibly remove at best. Sam Houston might have been sympathetic to the Indians, but he was backed by neither a broad political coalition nor public sympathy in this matter. The only questions are when Texas gets its shit together enough to crush the Indians, and when they do whether they'll expel them, kill them all, or set up reservations (probably not).

Texas was moving steadily west up until the ACW. So the 1860 frontier line would not necessarily retreat because of the ACW and would be closer to OTL's 1870 Frontier line. Hopefully Texas will keep it's shit together.

there was an attempt to demarcate a formal boundary between Texas and Comancheria, but it didn't seem to have come to anything.

Houston did that with a treaty in 1843 with the same result.

Really does depend on who's leading the country and past interactions with said Natives.
Sadly, TBH, I don't think the Comanches would ever have it easy, mainly thanks to the fact that they did constantly attack Texian settlements during the early days of the Republic. And many smaller tribes might not make it regardless of how badly or how well they may be treated.
Texas history buffs may recall the story of how an Apache chief, Flacco, rescued a famous Texas Ranger by the name of Jack Hays during the Texas Revolution. That by itself may be a "saving grace" as it were. And, if you can try not to get too many hardcore reactionaries in the government(not easy but doable), some tribes, at least, may not fare as badly as they did IOTL, even if not doing really well in the end.

I'll have to look in to that story. The Honor and word of a man went along way in the frontier. That seems promising, Thank you for pointing it out.

a Texas that stretched to the Pacific would include a huge expanse of rather useless (to whites) desert land. I'd imagine that chunks of this would be left to the natives. It's likely that TX would fight a lot of punitive campaigns to keep the natives quiet on their reservations (as the USA did in OTL), but it's not likely that they would expel them from those unwanted desert lands...

Yes there are large expanses of desert that belong to Indian Tribes but there are also large unoccupied expanses in OTL Texas and almost no Indian reservations here.
 
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