Rememberences of Map Contests Past

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by B_Munro, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. B_Munro Member

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    Decided to map a curiosity I came across recently. This is an approximation of the Treaty of Versailles if Roman Dmowski (the chief Polish negotiator at Versailles) had his way about everything. Forgot to make sure that it qualifies for the MotF since it's based on an OTL proposal, but if not, too bad. Besides satisfying Poland's demands, the goal of his proposals was to weaken Prussia's position in Germany by separating East Prussia (thereby making Germany territorially continuous) and adding Austria as a compensation, in the hope that this would make Germany less militaristic and revanchist.

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    In 1921, the Weltkrieg ended after seven long years of conflict. The Central Powers (mainly Germany, Austria-Hungary, Italy, and the Ottoman Empire, plus other allies) faced off against the Triple Entente (France, Britain, and Russia) and their allies. The main point of divergence in this scenario is Italy joining the Central Powers, giving the Central Powers less strain in the southern front and forcing France to defend its southern regions. The Lusitania is not sunk because the submarine that sunk it, U-20, departs later than it actually did due to a faulty engine needing to be repaired. The Zimmerman Telegram is not intercepted by the Americans, either, so there is little public resentment against the Germans in the United States.

    Russia and France are squeezed into submission by the Central Powers in 1917 and 1919 respectively, but the British fought until late 1921, when dissent among the British public lead to communist uprisings in many of England's major cities, including London. Both parties met in the city of Brussels, Belgium, where a peace treaty was "negotiated" upon. The people of Germany were unhappy that the war had taken so long to stop, and wanted to severely punish the French due to propaganda leading the German public to believe that France was the reason why the war took so long. France was to give independence to the Occitans, Bretons, and Normans; cede more of Lorraine to the Germans; cede the city of Calais to the newly-founded Concert of Nations; cede the French Basque Country and Northern Catalonia to Spain; cede Savoie and other lands on the Italian border to Italy; return Menton and Roquebrune to Monaco; give away their entire colonial empire besides half of Algeria, the Ivory Coast, St. Pierre and Miquelon, and French Guiana; and pay 3 billion francs for war reparations to the Central Powers. On the other hand, Britain was given much more lenient terms in comparison to France. Britain was required to give independence to Ireland (as a kingdom with a German on the throne); cede the Channel Islands to Normandy; cede western Nigeria, Walvis Bay, and Sierra Leone to Germany; grant independence to the Boer Republics; give Germany use of the ports in Aberdeen and Plymouth if necessary; and pay 500 million pound sterlings for war reparations. Belgium was dissolved and replaced by the Kingdom of Flanders, a monolingual Dutch state that lost its eastern regions to Germany but was compensated with Dunkirk and the rest of French Flanders.

    Many critics of the treaty saw it as too harsh, and stated that virtually dismantling a country as large as France would not go without major tremors. Those who supported the treaty dismissed these doubts at first, but shortly after the Treaty of Brussels went into effect in 1922, the supporters were proven wrong. Inspired by the Bolsheviks of Russia and the French Revolution of the late 1700s, French Communists took over Paris and other major French cities, proclaiming the People's Republic of France. Meanwhile, the rump United Kingdom prepares to strike back against the communists that control southern England. Austria-Hungary (in violation of a treaty between the two senior members that peacefully dissolved the empire) and the Ottoman Empire have collapsed into civil war, with the various minorities of the region wrestling for independence. It seems that no one, not even the mighty German and British empires, will be able to escape the effects of the Weltkrieg unscathed...




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    MotF 131: Race to the Other Side

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    Make a map showing an alternate long-distance road (can be a railroad or a highway), involving some sort of competition between 2 or more countries (or companies). It can involve 2 separate routes or different starting points on the same route.

     
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    he PoD regards the War of 1812, in which the British crush the US even more than they did IOTL. ;) Maine is taken over, all British claims in Oregon are kept, and expansion is far more rapid, as is competition. While the US was originally heavily against the British, a pro-alliance government came into power in the 1860's, going to war with Mexico on their behalf. After the British takeover of California, the Trans-Continental Railroad was built, a still-reluctant cooperation between the United States and the British Empire.

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    Southern African Railways

    Instead of being annexed into the British Empire, the Boers republics in southern Africa manage to retain their independence through an alliance with a newly unified and ambitious German Empire. Wanting to ensure their access to the mineral riches of the upper Limpopo region, German interest in the southern areas of Portuguese East Africa intensifies to the extent that with some expert negotiation round the conference tables of Europe, Germany is able to gain official control of the area as the German colony of Sofala. Naturally, the Portuguese aren't too happy at losing an area that had been under their control for over 350 years, leading to the development of a Germano-Portuguese rivalry in southern Africa. Thus, when the Germans start construction of their "Southern African Railway" to connect the gold, copper and diamond fields of the South African Republic and Matabeleland to the Indian, and later Atlantic Oceans, the Portuguese respond by planning their own African transcontinental railway, known as the Zambezi-Angola Railway.

    The map shows southern Africa at the close of the nineteenth century, with the routes of the German Southern African Railway and the Portuguese Zambezi-Angola Railway, plus other railways built by the British, Boers and Germans.

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    Only two that time! Rubberduck3y6 took first place, and Upvoteanthology second to infinity-th, inclusive.
     
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    MotF 132: Deus Vult



    The Challenge
    Make a map showing an alternate crusade, of any religion.
     
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    King of Spain yet Emperor of Africa

    The Spaniards are remarkable in their fervor. For the first time in millennia, the people of North Africa will see the light of Jesus Christ. Praise the Kings of Spain, for they have done what others have found impossible, retake the old lands of Africa!” Pope Julius II

    The Spanish focus there efforts more on Africa instead of the New World, eventually conquering the majority of the North African Coast. Meanwhile the Portuguese and other powers have more focus in the Americas due to more limited Spanish presence.

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    (The big difference here, is that when the Mongols invaded they didn't run over the top of small Russian city states, they hit the brick wall of a highly organised set of Roman Legions. This driving back meant that the Mongols were unable to bring gunpowder into Europe until much, much later than OTL. This meant, for one thing, that technology has had a slowed pace. The Roman Empire have only just adapted inaccurate powder cannons bought from the Shang Dynasty in China, and while the Mongol and Persian empires have used cannons for slightly longer, rifles and the like are still a long way off. This has had the effect of slowing the rate of colonization in Novaterrum. Furthermore, a notion that Novaterrum was "pure" means that very many less Old World diseases have reached the New, as those ill stayed away to avoid "corrupting" the New World. This means that the Great Dying, was a great deal less Great, and natives still make up over half the population of Novaterrum.

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    Warm colors, i.e. yellow, orange, red. = Roman Capitoline Colony

    Cold colors, i.e. green, blue, purple, = Native Territories.

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    S.P.Q.N - Formed as a republic by one of the many, many splinter groups of the New Senate, the Senatus Populusque Novaterrum is nominally loyal to the Emperor and Senate, but enjoys a great deal of autonomy.

    Mithrasia - Oh look, if it isn't everybody's favourite military cultists.

    Mamertinia - The Emperor of Mamertinia claims descent from the Captain of the Mamertines, the mercenary group who began the Punic Wars.

    Jovia - A union of the original states set up by the original Capitoline migration. They've lost the coast to what they consider the Roman "establishment". Almost constantly at war with the Shawnee.


    Algonquia
    - Would like very much to be left alone, thank you.

    Mohauqia - The Mohawk were convinced to separate from the Haudenosee due to Jovian machinations. The Jovian Senate began to immediately regret this, as they found themselves unable to control the unchecked expansion of the new Mohawk state.

    Haudenosia
    - Hassled constantly by Roman settlers told to "Trek Northwest Fratrem" and by Mohawk raiders, the Four and a Bit Nations have certainly seen better days.

    Eria - Even the High Chief of Eria is mystified as to how his slightly boring country came to be.

    Lenapia - Less an actual country and more a dumping ground for non-latinised coastal natives.

    Shaunia - Shown here is the iceberg-like tip of the Shawnee's tottering multicultural empire that expands to the Gulf of Novamedditerranea and the Mare Pelagia (Pacific Ocean).

    Cherokia - In contrast, that is pretty much the entirety of the Cherokee's fast decaying state. The true Cherokee homelands are now a constituent part of Shaunia, meaning that the Cherokian state is feeling somewhat embarassed and disenfranchised.

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    Historia Sancti Colonias (Or, The History of the Holy Colonies)

    After his father's death at the hands of Pompey the Great for his part in Lepidus' uprising, Marcus Junius Brutus (the Younger) was adopted by his uncle.

    Or at least, thats how it should have gone. But a mysterious fever swept through Rome, taking away poor Uncle Quintus and sending Brutus, and his mother and siblings, into relative poverty.

    This event cause Brutus to blame his father, and he came to value loyalty above all other values.

    This meant that, when Gaius Longinus came to him with his plan for betrayal, instead of agreeing he informed Caesar, who was spurred to action.

    Within the week the betrayers were dead, and the Empire secure. The Ides of March passed forever into history as the date when, apart from his compatriots, Gaius Longinus gave an impassioned speech to the populace of Rome before his execution. He pleaded with the Romans to rise up and destroy Caesar. But it was far too late. Caesar was too popular and too powerful. His loyal compatriot was rewarded well: he was named Caesar's heir.

    And as such, the foundation of the mighty Bruto-Caesarian dynasty formed. This mightiest of families ruled the Roman Empire with a marble fist for nearly 16 centuries, a record unsurpassed by any ruling family in all the world. But of course, all good things must come to an end. In Anno MDCXLIV (ITTL 1644) the ironically named Romulus Gaius Brutus Caesar died heirless, and no family member remained. The following civil war was brief and brutal, between the New Senate, who wished a return to their idealized days of democracy, the Scipios , the greatest of the remaining patrician families, and most importantly of all, the Capitolines, a sect of fundamentalists who worshipped Minerva, Juno and Jupiter above all else. The New Senate eventually reached an agreement with the Scipios, to share power amongst themselves. However the raging of the Capitolines had transcended their religious goals and had degraded simply into looting and burning and raping and really creepy praying.

    So, the High Priest of the Capitolium, (who had created the Capitolines to helop him seize power, but was now worried they'd pick him for their next holy burning) declared he'd had a vision: there was new land, to the west across the Mare Atlanticum. Holy Land, pure land, where the Consentes Dei might be found.

    Almost as one, the Capitolines packed up and went west, across the sea. Rome then promptly decided to forget about them and focus on the big problems, like Persia (again) and those bloody Mongols.

    Over in the newly christened Novaterrum, a near half century of politics, angry natives, war, gold rushes, and at least one military conspiracy occurred at a rapid pace. Now, in Anno MMDC (1700), war is brewing. All over the place actually.
     
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    PoD: The Fourth Crusade goes even worse than OTL, allowing Constantinople to fall to Muslim invaders months afterwards.
    After the fall of Constantinople to the Crusaders, the unstable Latin Empire was founded as a last resort. However, it quickly fell to the hungry Rums, who killed the Emperor to assure their succession to the Latin throne. After the fall of Constantinople in the 1300’s, they quickly advanced to take over Greece, and then moved north to fight the Golden Horde, Bulgaria, and Austria. Having centralized their power beyond that of the smaller countries, the Rums managed to quickly expand into Central Europe. In 1485, Austria and its allies of Bavaria and Venice fell to the Muslim alliance. The Pope called for another crusade, but it was much too late. The armies of many Papal allies had been turned against them, and the subjugation of Christianity was at hand. The Spanish quickly focused on the Reconquista, making sure the Rums wouldn’t take any of their precious Iberian Peninsula. It was reminiscent of the eighth century, and essentially moved Europe into a second Dark Age. The Rums and its new puppets of Venice and Sicily fought a valiant war against the Papal States, a war which they eventually won in 1502.
    A while after the conquest of the Christian church, a French explorer stumbled upon the continent of Alpin-rouge (OTL Central America/Caribbean). As the French were at war with the Muslims at the time (Eventually ending with the conquest of Avignon and most of Occitania), a mass exile to the former Aztec empire ensued. From 1560 to 1600, a large influx of European settlers from all walks of life moved into the region, many desperately getting jobs to convert the populous. The three allied cities of Tenochtitlan were taken over by a French-English-Italian alliance, with soldiers from Moravia and even Poland assisting with the conquest. With their homelands gone, the Europeans united together to form a new empire, which they named Zephyrus (After the Roman name for the southeastern wind). The church in exile founded new cities to base their Christian ideals off of, while much of Europe moved from their home continent to Alpin-rouge. The Spanish were tasked with taking down the Inca and the Mapuche, while the Zephyrussians worked to take down the Aztecs. The Rums eventually colonized Mustarshida, their name for OTL North America east of the Mississippi.
    However, there was one group who was not too happy with this exodus; the natives. While much of the former Aztec empire was converted to Christianity, the believers in the Aztec religion still existed on the fringes. In a strange showing of unity between the Aztec people, a crusade was called against the Christians. They quickly mobilized an Aztec army to take down Tenochtitlan, and assassinated the Zephyrussian emperor, along with a few high-ranked Christian political figures. Soon enough, the empire was fractured, dividing into two factions. There was the official continuation of Zephyrus, belonging to the French settlers in Tlacocum (the Latin name for the area around Tenochtitlan) and New Carcassonne, and the “Union of the Church” in Avignon and New Latium. The Aztec crusader states, founded in majorly Christian regions, got along okay with the “Restored Aztec Empire”, the new major power in the area. The states remained fractured for decades, some dominating over others. By 1675, the major powers were the Restored Aztec Empire, the Tlacocum Remnant of Zephyrus, and the majorly-French (but Aztec-run) Yancuictlan. Eventually, the Aztecs would be pushed out for good, but they had the upper hand for a long while.

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    Winner Upvote, second MrL567, and Locheil was poorly treated.
     
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    I foresee an Irish Civil War in there … ;-)
     
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    Eh, the majority might be OK with it if he's a Catholics... :)