Religion in the Confederacy

samcster94

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A lot has been written on the existence of such a state and its obviously problematic racism. How would religion develop in it??? I do know it would be(outside New Orleans) rather Protestant. I wonder if Church and State would be separated or not, albeit I am betting not as "Almighty God" is in the constitution.
 
A lot has been written on the existence of such a state and its obviously problematic racism. How would religion develop in it??? I do know it would be(outside New Orleans) rather Protestant. I wonder if Church and State would be separated or not, albeit I am betting not as "Almighty God" is in the constitution.

New Orleans is not the only Catholic centre in Louisiana. The strength of the Catholic Church is very tangible in Louisiana, both in the Archbishop seat of New Orleans, and into the parishes. No Protestant government in Richmond would dare step upon it.
 
A primate city at that, one comparable to the situation between Bangkok and the rest of Thailand.
And considering the Missionary position of the Catholic church and his official stance about the slavery in the papal Bulls Sublimis Deus and In supremo apostolatus than proscribe, without doubt, all form of slavery and human traffic, as is practices in the new world, this situation is ripe for a religion conflict in an independent CSA.
 

Md139115

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And considering the Missionary position of the Catholic church and his official stance about the slavery in the papal Bulls Sublimis Deus and In supremo apostolatus than proscribe, without doubt, all form of slavery and human traffic, as is practices in the new world, this situation is ripe for a religion conflict in an independent CSA.

This is true... what is also true is that Southern Catholic bishops did have an unfortunate habit of forgetting to mention it, for which they were frequently called out by bishops in the North.
 
And considering the Missionary position of the Catholic church and his official stance about the slavery in the papal Bulls Sublimis Deus and In supremo apostolatus than proscribe, without doubt, all form of slavery and human traffic, as is practices in the new world, this situation is ripe for a religion conflict in an independent CSA.

Well, the issue of slavery is complex in Louisiana and the positions of the Catholic Church. Needless to say, the affirmations of Rome do not always reach the land of Louisiana, especially in 1868.
 
Brazil was strongly catholic, yet had slavery. I don't see any reason for Drama over the issue in an independent CS beyond the level you'd get in any other anglo settler colony.
 
Well you've broadly got 4 religious groups in the CSA.

1) Episcopalians
2) Evangelical denominations
3) Black Christianity
4) Catholicism

I guess there's also Jews in major areas like Charleston and New Orleans (Judah P Benjamin was Senator from Louisiana after all) but there just aren't that many of them.

There'll be some social turmoil as the evangelical gospel spreads among the yeomanry while the leadership remains Episcopal I think.
 
Same thing we have now only a lot more intolerance for non-religious people and Muslims would probably just straight-up not be allowed l.
 
In case the CSA manages to annex Oklahoma (or part of it) in alliance with the Creek, Cherokees, Chickasaws and Choctaws, what happens to Native American beliefs in the area?
 
In its second wave the KKK was very hostile towards Catholics and Jews (the trial and subsequent lynching of Leo Franks is often regarded as one of the events that precipitated the KKK revival) In regards to Catholics it was felt that the relatively recent wave of Catholic immigrants esp. Italians fanned the enmity.
 
In case the CSA manages to annex Oklahoma (or part of it) in alliance with the Creek, Cherokees, Chickasaws and Choctaws, what happens to Native American beliefs in the area?

Traditional native religions will probably be eroded anyways due to the policies of culturally assimilating Indians into Euro-American culture.
 

TruthfulPanda

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In its second wave the KKK was very hostile towards Catholics and Jews (the trial and subsequent lynching of Leo Franks is often regarded as one of the events that precipitated the KKK revival) In regards to Catholics it was felt that the relatively recent wave of Catholic immigrants esp. Italians fanned the enmity.
There will be no KKK in this AU.
 

TruthfulPanda

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Thank you - live and learn :)
I was worried that "primate city" was somehow related to the presence of primates, be these of the ecclesiastic or simian variety ...
 
This is true... what is also true is that Southern Catholic bishops did have an unfortunate habit of forgetting to mention it, for which they were frequently called out by bishops in the North.

Now I wonder whether there were Catholic bishops in the South who owned slaves. It'd be possible...

Thanks for the WP link BTW. Check out "King effect"!
 
New Orleans is not the only Catholic centre in Louisiana. The strength of the Catholic Church is very tangible in Louisiana, both in the Archbishop seat of New Orleans, and into the parishes. No Protestant government in Richmond would dare step upon it.
Coastal Mississippi, Coastal Alabama, Charleston and Savannah also had relatively large number of Catholics.

I don't think a Protestant government of the CSA confederation would be inclined to harass or suppress Catholics. Sure, there was some religious animosity from various preachers with small followings. Historically, however, the Confederate leadership identified with and respected the ancien regime aspect of the Catholic church as they felt it encouraged traditional social arrangements and traditional culture. Of course, "traditional" to the CSA meant "Planter Culture"

In its second wave the KKK was very hostile towards Catholics and Jews.
Most of that was hostility to immigrants (of whom a strong majority were also Catholic). Though there was a faction of the KKK inherently hostile to Catholics as a religion, most of the KKK divided Catholics into "indigenous" and "immigrant"- then saved the hostility for the immigrants- especially those with non anglo saxon appearances.
 
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