samcster94
Banned
How religious do you think a Confederacy that survived would have been??? Given they used God as an argument for how they kept black people in chains, them being super religious makes perfect sense.
It might be LESS religious than it currently is. No Southern state was settled for religious reasons and it was a more nominal institution at the time. The turmoil and economic hardship the region went through in the aftermath of the Civil War is part of what drove them into the depths of superstition that they're in.
That said: the greatest likelihood is that an independent CSA would still have gone through severe economic hardship postwar and the religiosity of the population may be the same as now without the same oversight by saner states keeping it from going off the deep end into theocracy.
The confederate constitution still had the establishment clause and freedom of religion, it was pretty similar to the American constitution, so it would still have separation of church and state.
the defense of the booming plantation economy was, after all, the predominant reason for increase in devout religiousity in the South from about 1830 onwards.
And what of the Catholics? Traditionally the local bishops in the South quietly nodded in support of slavery (with those in the North violently opposed), but how long would Rome allow that to continue before putting its foot down?
Anti Catholicism would become less feasible of a political position I think because of how powerful and relevant Louisiana and New Orleans would be politically and economically in an independent CSAespecially if, say, anti-Catholicism becomes a bigger thing down there(and I can't see why it couldn't).
Pius IX would endorse a teaching sent to Ethiopia in 1866 saying that certain forms of slavery practiced there were acceptable.
And what'd these "certain forms" be? Punishment for crime? Even so...
Anti Catholicism would become less feasible of a political position I think because of how powerful and relevant Louisiana and New Orleans would be politically and economically in an independent CSA
Anti-Catholicism was mainly in response to Catholic immigration. A successful CSA would probably have even less immigration than OTL, so I don't see why anti-Catholicism would become a major factor.True, but it's honestly not that difficult to see that particular clause done away with in a lot of ATL CSAs, or even omitted altogether with a pre-1860 POD, especially if, say, anti-Catholicism becomes a bigger thing down there(and I can't see why it couldn't).
Anti-Catholicism was mainly in response to Catholic immigration. A successful CSA would probably have even less immigration than OTL, so I don't see why anti-Catholicism would become a major factor.
...I may be reading this incorrectly, but you state the scriptural basis of slavery, and then say that the south would have been better if people had been truer to their faith, which implies that slavery was a good thing...Southern Churches were, barring a few very rare exceptions, either culpable or complicit in the horror of slavery.
"...slavery has set the seal of a complicit , guilty silence upon the most orthodox pulpits and the saintliest tongues..."
... the right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example.
If they had been true to their faith, the South would have had and resolved their existential crisis back during the Great Awakening in the 18th century. And would have become a finer, decent place and people.