Reinhard Heydrich allies with Bormann

There's actually truth in this....Heydrich sided with Bormann...thus he was appointed the Reichprotector of Bohemia, one of the most powerful German protactorates....without Bormann's blessing this would NOT have happened...especially for a Himmler protege.

Ok...so in this scenario Germany WINS the war.....do you think alliance would hold out?...Heydrich was very ambitious...he allegedly told his inner circle of friends "I intend to succeed The Fuhrer"

I think Bormann was a "Behind the scenes guy"...plan may be Heydrich to be Fuhrer..could this alliance defeat Himmler,Goebbels,Goering etc?
 
Heydrich was shot dead in '42. If he survived, though, I don't think that he would be afraid of going his own way. I actually just finished reading Turtledove's 'The Man with the Iron Heart' and in it, Heydrich is portrayed as a man willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish his needs and desires. He would only back someone else if he believed that it would further his own ambitions.
 
IMO

Heydrich as Fuhrer

Bormann as Nazi party chief

Goebblels keeps his position when he joins the group.

Himmler and Goering killed mysteriously by Heydrich's Gestapo hitmen
 

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Heydrich was shot dead in '42. If he survived, though, I don't think that he would be afraid of going his own way. I actually just finished reading Turtledove's 'The Man with the Iron Heart' and in it, Heydrich is portrayed as a man willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish his needs and desires. He would only back someone else if he believed that it would further his own ambitions.
Turtledove is a fiction writer, not a historian, so I'd take that book with a massive grain of salt, because he was trying to make a point about Islamic terrorism via using the Nazis as the stand in for that. Its a pretty shitty book too that has little basis in reality.
 
The office of 'Fuhrer' was really the combination of President and Chancellor of the Reich, I doubt that anyone will readily fill both positions at once again. But the original premise is accurate, Heydrich will not ally with anyone unless it furthers his own ambitions. Bormann is the bureaucrat and can control the internal party apparatus, Goebbels would probably work with the two of them especially if against Himmler (think Beria in 1953).

I wonder how Heinz Heydrich, Reinhard's brother, turns out - especially if his reaction to his brother's activities is anything like OTL?
 
Why not a referendum validated the merger of the powers of the offices (not the offices themselves, president was left vacant).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Führer#As_a_political_office

The Hitler cult would be massive after his death and the office could be seen as unique to him alone. Also OTL Hitler did separate the officers in his political testament so he might do the same at the end of a much longer career (he intended to quit and retire around 1950 if he won the war).

Given he's of the "Older generation" (of Nazi's not exactly in age) I could see Goebbels as Reich President, while Heydrich becomes Chancellor with a variant of the enabling act still in effect. Of course Heydrich was a nightmare and his rule would probably be even worse than Hitler's was.
 
The Hitler cult would be massive after his death and the office could be seen as unique to him alone. Also OTL Hitler did separate the officers in his political testament so he might do the same at the end of a much longer career (he intended to quit and retire around 1950 if he won the war).

Given he's of the "Older generation" (of Nazi's not exactly in age) I could see Goebbels as Reich President, while Heydrich becomes Chancellor with a variant of the enabling act still in effect. Of course Heydrich was a nightmare and his rule would probably be even worse than Hitler's was.


Yup...unlike Htler..Heydrich was great at his job
 
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