Rehabilitation of Criminals

What would it take so that modern day rehabilitation methods and general rehabilitation for criminals are widely ineffective and are widely seen as such? What type of system could replace rehabilitation in the event of this?

Also, i mean rehabilitation for all types of criminals, from thieves, robbers, murderers etc, just to make it clear.
 
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I think you're looking for our current timeline.

It's already widely accepted that prison doesn't actually rehabilitate inmates.
 
I'm partial to the notion of exile myself. Imagine the US takes a couple of very thinly populated areas and sets up two very small nations. One for difficult, but not incredibly dangerous prisoners and another for real hardcases. Call them Coventry and Hobbes. There would be no additional punishment or interference from the US, just exile.
 
What would it take so that modern day rehabilitation methods and general rehabilitation for criminals are widely ineffective and are widely seen as such? What type of system could replace rehabilitation in the event of this?

Also, i mean rehabilitation for all types of criminals, from thieves, robbers, murderers etc, just to make it clear.

In many US states, programs to rehabilitate people in prison have largely disappeared. The rehabilitative model is largely gone, on the theory that rehabilitation programs only serve to coddle criminals. Very little is done to prepare many prisoners for a return to society. So, the US system is largely punitive.
 
In many US states, programs to rehabilitate people in prison have largely disappeared. The rehabilitative model is largely gone, on the theory that rehabilitation programs only serve to coddle criminals. Very little is done to prepare many prisoners for a return to society. So, the US system is largely punitive.

I actually meant so that rehabilitation as a whole, in all countries is ineffective. So that criminals are still dangerous, always will be etc.
 
In many US states, programs to rehabilitate people in prison have largely disappeared. The rehabilitative model is largely gone, on the theory that rehabilitation programs only serve to coddle criminals. Very little is done to prepare many prisoners for a return to society. So, the US system is largely punitive.

So they lock them up in those pervesion factories known as prisons. That's no solution. Rehabitilate or execute, but don't do something so neutral as lock them up forever. Sorry for using the E-word, but some people can't be rehabilitated. As for the rest, it's better to make something useful out of them than to leave them in a cell.
 
Yeah, but how do you determine that a person is beyond rehabilitation?


Regardless of anyone's views on how criminal rehabilitation SHOULD be handled, the truth of the matter is that actual criminal rehabilitation is taken seriously by very few, while most are content to lock up criminals so they don't have to look at them on a daily basis.
 
I actually meant so that rehabilitation as a whole, in all countries is ineffective. So that criminals are still dangerous, always will be etc.

rehabilitative programs in other parts of the world have greater success , dare i say it, becasue the running of prisons outside the US is far less politicised , even though the UK is currently adopting elected policing and crime commissioners they won;t be replacing the Chief Constable of the local police service, nor will they have any direct influence on the operational management of NOMS ( prisons, probation etc ) - what they are doing is making the choice of this individual more closely related to the popular vote rather than the co-opting of councillors and local 'worthies' onto a police authority ...

so even if a clown like Arpaio was elected as a PCC in the UK he couldn't do things that Arpaio and his cronies have done in the US.
 
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