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[Marisa Kiridifferent]

As a subscriber of Indonesian-language Nat Geo i think they gave considerable coverage for urban areas too.You're right at quite apolitical though

But they have a quite American viewpoint(except for the ones written by local journalists,of course) so it's possible they have a mild socialist bent ITTL.

 

[Miss Teri]

As a subscriber of Indonesian-language Nat Geo i think they gave considerable coverage for urban areas too.You're right at quite apolitical though

But they have a quite American viewpoint(except for the ones written by local journalists,of course) so it's possible they have a mild socialist bent ITTL.

Yeah, sometimes, but those tend to be the start of an article or part of an overview, not really the main focus. Although, I did imply the article was part of a larger one, so it's entirely possible it was still a National Geographic article.

You have a point there, but the American viewpoint isn't very strong, and its articles tend to be very impartial, without any references to politics.

By the way, you're Indonesian?

 

[Marisa Kiridifferent]

Yeah, sometimes, but those tend to be the start of an article or part of an overview, not really the main focus. Although, I did imply the article was part of a larger one, so it's entirely possible it was still a National Geographic article.

You have a point there, but the American viewpoint isn't very strong, and its articles tend to be very impartial, without any references to politics.

By the way, you're Indonesian?

Yeah.

I would like to write up something about the Indonesian left ITTL but i fear i haven't read enough.

I wonder how Tan Malaka's Pan-Islamic socialism be accepted in the UASR though,IOTL he's pretty much rejected by the Comintern.

Also Touhou Project.Shanghai Alice Collective is a damn awesome name.

 

[Miss Teri]

Yeah.

I would like to write up something about the Indonesian left ITTL but i fear i haven't read enough.

I wonder how Tan Malaka's Pan-Islamic socialism be accepted in the UASR though,IOTL he's pretty much rejected by the Comintern.

Given that the UASR is generally more tolerant of religion, I think Comintern will be more accepting of his brand of socialism.

 

[Alexander the Average]

Given that the UASR is generally more tolerant of religion, I think Comintern will be more accepting of his brand of socialism.

Especially given how politics, and radical politics in particular, has historically been intertwined with religion in American history (abolitionism, populism and Christian socialism in particular).

 

[Derekc2]

Also Touhou Project.Shanghai Alice Collective is a damn awesome name.

You know I did some thinking on how Touhou would be different ITTL and I think humorously enough that it would be pretty much the exact same. It is rather whimsy and is very apolitical, enough that it wouldn't be changed in it's content and the way Zun acts about copyright (which is to say, he cares so little about it for his intellectual property that is Touhou that a fangame was at E3 this year) that he would fit right in with the far more relaxed attitude to copyright than OTL in the Comintern and the community of Touhou, presuming it starts up and becomes the behemoth that it is ITTL, could be even more widespread in the kind of stuff it makes, also we could have more stuff that came out the west hopefully.

Also I still bet that the Shanghai Alice 'Collective' will be just Zun doing everything like OTL.

 

[Marisa Kiridifferent]

Also I still bet that the Shanghai Alice 'Collective' will be just Zun doing everything like OTL.

That's the joke.
Since Undertale is also mentioned here,i think one-man works might flourish in the Comintern.

Plot-wise/in-game or printworks lore,though?

 

[Mr. C]

That Mumbai travelogue on the page before had me thinking...what would Hunter S. Thompson be doing ITTL?

I had an idea of a "Fear and Loathing in Havana", but I can't figure out what he'd be doing there in the first place.

 

[xie323]

How would Tokusatu be handled in TTL? I imagine the first Godzilla being an anti-nuclear allegory and the same as OTL.

Kamen Rider could have Shocker be some Nazi organization that hid underground(maybe in Cuba?) and are maybe manipulating events to destroy the USAR. Their leader may be more of a Japanese fascist(in the original Kamen Rider the leader is a Nazi) that escaped and is setting up a base with the help of McArthuist Cuba, as well as Fascists and Nazis from Brazil, Germany, Italy that escaped punishment and fled to join him. And Kamen Rider is maybe a vigilante or "Communist Superhero" whom maybe was a dissenter to the Japanese Fascists or Chiang in China.

Not sure about Super Sentai/Power Rangers through, or Ultraman. I feel that the Ranger teams might be more international in scope and coming from all walks of life, but they stand a good chance of not existing TTL(especialyl Ultraman) or something different completly.

 

[Mr. C]

How would Tokusatu be handled in TTL? I imagine the first Godzilla being an anti-nuclear allegory and the same as OTL.

Kamen Rider could have Shocker be some Nazi organization that hid underground(maybe in Cuba?) and are maybe manipulating events to destroy the USAR. Their leader may be more of a Japanese fascist(in the original Kamen Rider the leader is a Nazi) that escaped and is setting up a base with the help of McArthuist Cuba, as well as Fascists and Nazis from Brazil, Germany, Italy that escaped punishment and fled to join him. And Kamen Rider is maybe a vigilante or "Communist Superhero" whom maybe was a dissenter to the Japanese Fascists or Chiang in China.

Not sure about Super Sentai/Power Rangers through, or Ultraman. I feel that the Ranger teams might be more international in scope and coming from all walks of life, but they stand a good chance of not existing TTL(especialyl Ultraman) or something different completly.

I actually had an idea of how Ultraman would be handled ITTL.

My idea was that there'd be an overarching story: the main villains would be an evil capitalist alien empire, with an army of giant monsters, who want to conquer and enslave the human race. Probably named something like "The Furerian Empire".

Ultraman, a socialist dissident from the Land of Light in Galaxy M78 conquered by the Empire, escapes from prison to warn the Earth, chasing an Empire recon droid. Arriving at Tokyo, he fights the droid, accidentally killing scientist and United Earth Patrol researcher Shin Hayata. Feeling guilty over his death, he merges his soul with his body, bringing him back to life and allowing Ultraman to have a human host. With the help of the United Earth Patrol, Ultraman becomes humanity's defender.

Since Ultraman was heavily influenced by Thunderbirds and Doctor Who IOTL, I'd imagine that it'd be more influenced by American sci-fi like Star Trek ITTL. Like, maybe they'll eventually go into space to liberate the rest of the galaxy from the Furerians.

Actually, it's funny, because a lot of early toku villains definitely had a Nazi/fascist vibe going on. (Black Cross Fuhrer, anyone?)

 

[Miss Teri]

That Mumbai travelogue on the page before had me thinking...what would Hunter S. Thompson be doing ITTL?

I had an idea of a "Fear and Loathing in Havana", but I can't figure out what he'd be doing there in the first place.

With the less cynical attitude towards politics and government in the UASR, Thompson might remain a sports journalist, and he will be known for his gonzo detailing of sports events.

 

[Alexander the Average]

With the less cynical attitude towards politics and government in the UASR, Thompson might remain a sports journalist, and he will be known for his gonzo detailing of sports events.

Or perhaps a reviewer of fine narcotics establishments, at least in the associated Republics with a more libertine attitude to drug use.

 

[Mr. C]

With the less cynical attitude towards politics and government in the UASR, Thompson might remain a sports journalist, and he will be known for his gonzo detailing of sports events.

Or perhaps a reviewer of fine narcotics establishments, at least in the associated Republics with a more libertine attitude to drug use.

My first idea was to have him in Havana as part of a spy ring, but I thought "no, he'd be a terrible spy".

I had another idea where he was a child of American exiles (he grew up in an upper-middle class family IOTL, and his dad was part of the Louisville high society) who had defected to the UASR. Fear and Loathing in La Habana would be his reflection on the country he left behind.

I dunno, sounds like it wouldn't get written. Maybe someone else could write a travelogue through Alt-Havana. I just really want to see more of life in the USA-in-exile.

 

[Miss Teri]

My first idea was to have him in Havana as part of a spy ring, but I thought "no, he'd be a terrible spy".

I had another idea where he was a child of American exiles (he grew up in an upper-middle class family IOTL, and his dad was part of the Louisville high society) who had defected to the UASR. Fear and Loathing in La Habana would be his reflection on the country he left behind.

I dunno, sounds like it wouldn't get written. Maybe someone else could write a travelogue through Alt-Havana. I just really want to see more of life in the USA-in-exile.

Well, there's this from way back when :
https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ution-and-rebirth.148698/page-59#post-5538278

(Although the author of that peace made the bizarre decision to make it Cuba and Panama, which isn't canon at all.)

 

[Mr. C]

Well, there's this from way back when :
https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ution-and-rebirth.148698/page-59#post-5538278

(Although the author of that peace made the bizarre decision to make it Cuba and Panama, which isn't canon at all.)

Yeah, but I kind of want a more in-depth look.

Like, what is the Cuban political scene like? I'd imagine that the gambling industry would have a pretty big lobby. The Mob probably has a lot of pull in Havana.

 

[Miss Teri]

Yeah, but I kind of want a more in-depth look.

Like, what is the Cuban political scene like? I'd imagine that the gambling industry would have a pretty big lobby. The Mob probably has a lot of pull in Havana.

I was thinking about writing something about how the mob moved to Havana as its new base of operations, due to the fact that the American secret police had wiped out organized crime on the mainland, and dominated the nightclubs and casinos there and all over Cuba.

 

[Alexander the Average]

Well, there's this from way back when :
https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ution-and-rebirth.148698/page-59#post-5538278

(Although the author of that peace made the bizarre decision to make it Cuba and Panama, which isn't canon at all.)

I believe the older version had the MacArthur regime occupy both Cuba and Panama.

 

[Miss Teri]

I believe the older version had the MacArthur regime occupy both Cuba and Panama.

I don't think that was ever canon, though. Some took it as canon. There was this fake wiki article "Cuba y Panama", that someone posted.

 

[Mr. C]

I was thinking about writing something about how the mob moved to Havana as its new base of operations, due to the fact that the American secret police had wiped out organized crime on the mainland, and dominated the nightclubs and casinos there and all over Cuba.

I was just thinking that, too!

My idea was that the mob and the gambling industry - oh, I'm sorry, gaming industry - would have a lot of pull with politicians.

I read that the Sicilian mafia sends people on their payroll to the Italian parliament, so I thought that maybe the mob would do that in CasinoFascist!Cuba

 

[Miss Teri]

Just a fun, very short thing I thought of after watching a segment on this:

"This so-called "New Look", as conceived by bourgeois 'fashion designer' Christian Dior, is little more than a expression of the capitalist excess that is exemplar of the Franco-British Empire. The lavish designs are tasteless, especially in the face of the recovering French people, who can barely cloth themselves now, and have no room for these excessive designs. Their constraining designs merely reinforce the submissive position of women, and have superfluous fabrics. We encourage the works in France not to succumb to excessive bourgeois pressure, and instead, adopt the cloth of the working man!"
- UASR Press statement, c. 1949.