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[The_Red_Star_Rising]

Is that tabletop only? Or is there a much more expansive video game and movie segment of Warhammer?

Video games, movies, toys. 40k is the star wars of the capitalist bloc. The story of a vast beacon of civilization (The Imperium and Squats/Demiurge) sieged on all sides by howling Barbarians with crude and unrefined mannerisms (Orks and other savages like the Rak'Gol and the Skaven esque Hrud), brutal, degenerate, and cult like foes of all that is orderly (Chaos), silent remnants of a dead order (Necrons, Slaugth, the Slann and the like), a slavering collectivist horde from foreign lands of one mind and one purpose to consume all that is held dear (Tyranids), Exotic people enamored of progress, multiculturalism, and a strange ideology (Tau and other similar xenos), Post-scarcity folk who are similar, yet alien and often live in ways that would be considered Hedonistic (the craftworld and Harlequin Eldar), people who reject the ways of proper civilization and live in backwards ways and need to be civilized (Exodite Eldar), and utterly self absorbed "look out for number 1" hedonists who care nothing of sensible values (Dark Eldar and Corsair Eldar) holds a lot of appeal.

The Craftworld and Harlequin Eldar are kind of stand ins for the Americans, people like us (Craftworld Eldar are similar enough to humans to interbreed and share all the same opponents as the Imperium), but with repugnantly different values and structure (Craftworlds don't really have governments, people do the jobs that they feel the urge to do and leave when they get bored, and for civilian needs, Craftworlds exist in post-scarcity; while polyamory and trysts are the norm among Eldar). Furthermore they're constantly interfering in business they shouldn't based on how they view the world and what they think must be done while not telling people what they're doing wrong in terms that make sense and on the level of nations; are portrayed as manipulative and lovers of espionage. They're also arrogant and holier than thou and highly averse to "unnecessary" casualties to a degree that seems soft and weak to the Imperium and the Squats (and despite this their "interventions" tend to cause massive death anyway).

 

[Derekc2]

So in English class we read the Great Gatsby and it was a decent book, likely even a good book but what I'm wondering is how would the Great Gatsby be viewed in the UASR? It has anti-rich undertones in regards to the Buchanan's but on the other hand glorifies Gatsby, a member of the Nouveau Rich and seems to have a fascination with that culture in general and I doubt it'll change since it was written pre-revolution and Fitzgerald would have a basically the same childhood as OTL.

Also having read the Little Prince, I'm wondering how that'll be different, presuming it is, since it was originally written by the Frenchman Saint-Exupery during the second world war.

 

[bookmark95]

So in English class we read the Great Gatsby and it was a decent book, likely even a good book but what I'm wondering is how would the Great Gatsby be viewed in the UASR? It has anti-rich undertones in regards to the Buchanan's but on the other hand glorifies Gatsby, a member of the Nouveau Rich and seems to have a fascination with that culture in general and I doubt it'll change since it was written pre-revolution and Fitzgerald would have a basically the same childhood as OTL.

Also having read the Little Prince, I'm wondering how that'll be different, presuming it is, since it was originally written by the Frenchman Saint-Exupery during the second world war.

I think those anti-rich themes would be more greatly emphasized, especially the idea that the the pursuit of wealth is empty and leaves you hollow.

 

[Miss Teri]

So in English class we read the Great Gatsby and it was a decent book, likely even a good book but what I'm wondering is how would the Great Gatsby be viewed in the UASR? It has anti-rich undertones in regards to the Buchanan's but on the other hand glorifies Gatsby, a member of the Nouveau Rich and seems to have a fascination with that culture in general and I doubt it'll change since it was written pre-revolution and Fitzgerald would have a basically the same childhood as OTL.

Also having read the Little Prince, I'm wondering how that'll be different, presuming it is, since it was originally written by the Frenchman Saint-Exupery during the second world war.

Fun fact: ITTL, the Great Gatsby goes by its working title "Under Red, White, and Blue."

I suppose I agree with Bookmark's assessment, and add it would likely be studied as a literary work showcasing the greed and excess of the Jazz Age immediately preceding the revolution.

 

[Alexander the Average]

An important thing to consider is that the book is about the Nouveau Riche, butt ITTL America's political economy is considerably more corporatist and monopolistic than IOTL, so wouldn't be as much of an opportunity for new wealth to arise.

 

[teg]

Video games, movies, toys. 40k is the star wars of the capitalist bloc. The story of a vast beacon of civilization (The Imperium and Squats/Demiurge) sieged on all sides by howling Barbarians with crude and unrefined mannerisms (Orks and other savages like the Rak'Gol and the Skaven esque Hrud), brutal, degenerate, and cult like foes of all that is orderly (Chaos), silent remnants of a dead order (Necrons, Slaugth, the Slann and the like), a slavering collectivist horde from foreign lands of one mind and one purpose to consume all that is held dear (Tyranids), Exotic people enamored of progress, multiculturalism, and a strange ideology (Tau and other similar xenos), Post-scarcity folk who are similar, yet alien and often live in ways that would be considered Hedonistic (the craftworld and Harlequin Eldar), people who reject the ways of proper civilization and live in backwards ways and need to be civilized (Exodite Eldar), and utterly self absorbed "look out for number 1" hedonists who care nothing of sensible values (Dark Eldar and Corsair Eldar) holds a lot of appeal.

The Craftworld and Harlequin Eldar are kind of stand ins for the Americans, people like us (Craftworld Eldar are similar enough to humans to interbreed and share all the same opponents as the Imperium), but with repugnantly different values and structure (Craftworlds don't really have governments, people do the jobs that they feel the urge to do and leave when they get bored, and for civilian needs, Craftworlds exist in post-scarcity; while polyamory and trysts are the norm among Eldar). Furthermore they're constantly interfering in business they shouldn't based on how they view the world and what they think must be done while not telling people what they're doing wrong in terms that make sense and on the level of nations; are portrayed as manipulative and lovers of espionage. They're also arrogant and holier than thou and highly averse to "unnecessary" casualties to a degree that seems soft and weak to the Imperium and the Squats (and despite this their "interventions" tend to cause massive death anyway).

And there is a certain degree of satisfying irony for FBU audiences that by the 41st millennium, the Eldar are also a dying civilization and are possibly responsible for much of the chaos since the late Dark Age of Technology.

Its also why I think the Byzantium Empire will occupy a much bigger place in the cultural memory of the the FBU. Hence Byzantium instead of Rome.

So in English class we read the Great Gatsby and it was a decent book, likely even a good book but what I'm wondering is how would the Great Gatsby be viewed in the UASR? It has anti-rich undertones in regards to the Buchanan's but on the other hand glorifies Gatsby, a member of the Nouveau Rich and seems to have a fascination with that culture in general and I doubt it'll change since it was written pre-revolution and Fitzgerald would have a basically the same childhood as OTL.

Also having read the Little Prince, I'm wondering how that'll be different, presuming it is, since it was originally written by the Frenchman Saint-Exupery during the second world war.

I'm not 100% how you can reach the conclusion it glorifies Gatsby. Everyone in my A-level English class agreed he was at best a rather pitiable figure, although a lot of it is hidden in the subtext and Carraway's unreliable narration.

I think the novel will have a similar life to OTL - poorly received when it first comes out, perhaps more so due to the decay of American culture in the 1920s ITTL, before being eventually recognized as a 'great American novel' at some point in the detente period of the Cold War (so latter than OTL) as the view that the FBU is just a dying civilization that should be left to wither on the vine becomes more popular. I doubt it will gain popularity in the capitalist world, however.

It does make me wonder what the fate of The Jungle Book will be. I presume a film isn't going to get produced by an American company but will probably come from a British one and eventually become a franchise that soft pedals neo-imperialism.

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[The_Red_Star_Rising]

And there is a certain degree of satisfying irony for FBU audiences that by the 41st millennium, the Eldar are also a dying civilization and are possibly responsible for much of the chaos since the late Dark Age of Technology.

Its also why I think the Byzantium Empire will occupy a much bigger place in the cultural memory of the the FBU. Hence Byzantium instead of Rome.

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The FBU being a well, FBU is why in this timeline; I had the squats remain (potentially under a less...silly name like Dawi, Duardin, or Demiurge) and retain their warhammer fantasy battle alliance with the humans. The Imperium is more of a Britain; a monarchy (whose monarch hasn't held real power in a very long time) spread out over a very wide area; while the Dawi are a more centrally located state that's something of a de facto republic (elected High King) and is more of a "land" power in that their influence is more localized but very strong where its felt. They may bicker and sometimes have disagreements from cultural differences; but when the chips are down they'll always come together and fight whatever threatens them; side by side.

 

[WotanArgead]

Question about character of Life is Strange -
What is Victoria? In my opinion it must change more than anyone else.

 

[xie323]

Would something like the alt-right exist in the FBU?

 

[Miss Teri]

Would something like the alt-right exist in the FBU?

I think that's the Liberty Party. Ultra-Right Wing authoritarian, but also anarcho-capitalist

 

[Joyeux]

I think that's the Liberty Party. Ultra-Right Wing authoritarian, but also anarcho-capitalist

The alt-right tends to encompass much more than just an-caps.

 

[Miss Teri]

The alt-right tends to encompass much more than just an-caps.

True, and perhaps Anarcho-Capitalist was not the best term to use (support for Laisse-faire capitalism is better) but the Liberty Party (or perhaps the English Defense League or the Action Française) are the closest analogue I could think of.

 

[Miss Teri]

The final part in my trilogy about international horror. This is less about censorship, and more about the development of a genre in a country:
Soviet Horror

In the Soviet Union, the most popular form of domestic horror films was zombies, becoming notorious for its often gruesome zombie pictures. This is universally regarded as having started with the release of the genre-codifier Night of the Living Dead, in 1974, during the Soviet "Cultural Leap". The horrifying story of a zombie apocalypse in modern day America struck a chord with Soviet audiences, as the the centralized Soviet government began to reform towards democracy. They could identify with the chaos in the film. Indeed, the spiritual successor Dawn of the Dead (co-produced in communist Italy) was also a smash hit when released in 1978. The first major Soviet zombie film was Man-Eaters ,also released in 1978. The film can be described as Night of the Living Dead in the Russian Far East, revolving around a Red Army facility caught in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. It was much more grotesque than Night of the Living Dead, which would be a recurring theme. Soon, other zombie films, such as 1981 Ukrainian Hell Creatures from the Countryside and the Russian Civil War picture The Black of Night( released in the UASR as The Geeks) flooded the market.

The Soviet "Cultural Leap" allowed for artistic expression to explode across the nation. The most extreme artistic expression were severe grindhouse pictures, often following the exploitation genre of horror pioneered by American filmmakers. Of course, this garnered the attention of government forces, who struggled to keep these films from release. One controversial case was Gulag, a 1977 exploitation film done in the manner of an American "Nazi exploitation" film, except set in a Stalinist gulag in the 1930's. The censorship board denounced the film, calling "filth", citing its excessive violence and overt sexuality. The filmmakers responded by denouncing the "Stalinist remnants. The film was delayed until 1983. (Retrospective review stated that the controversy over the movie was more interesting than the act of actually watching it.) War of the Worlds, an adaptation of titular story from 1982, had similar issues, with the censorship board denouncing the needless violence (particularly the look of the Martians and scenes of them sucking blood), as well as how the general populace seemed completely helpless in the face of the Martian invasion. The famed vampire film, The Count from St. Petersberg, was known for being so frightening people in both the USSR and the UASR fainted while watching it in the theater. Yet, it surprisingly was released with little opposition (perhaps because of its denounciation of the Tsarist system). Unlike the FBU, however, the conflict never became a major scare. In fact, after full democratization, the horror genre blossomed in the Soviet Union, without any major restrictions.

 

[Time slip]

I have to wonder exactly when exploitation filmmakers in the UASR start depicting graphic violence in their films. In OTL Herschell Gordon Lewis is generally considered the originator of the splatter film with Blood Feast in 1963, but ITTL someone could conceivably make a similar film earlier.

 

[WotanArgead]

The final part in my trilogy about international horror. This is less about censorship, and more about the development of a genre in a country:
Soviet Horror

In the Soviet Union, the most popular form of domestic horror films was zombies, becoming notorious for its often gruesome zombie pictures. This is universally regarded as having started with the release of the genre-codifier Night of the Living Dead, in 1974, during the Soviet "Cultural Leap". The horrifying story of a zombie apocalypse in modern day America struck a chord with Soviet audiences, as the the centralized Soviet government began to reform towards democracy. They could identify with the chaos in the film. Indeed, the spiritual successor Dawn of the Dead (co-produced in communist Italy) was also a smash hit when released in 1978. The first major Soviet zombie film was Man-Eaters ,also released in 1978. The film can be described as Night of the Living Dead in the Russian Far East, revolving around a Red Army facility caught in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. It was much more grotesque than Night of the Living Dead, which would be a recurring theme. Soon, other zombie films, such as 1981 Ukrainian Hell Creatures from the Countryside and the Russian Civil War picture The Black of Night( released in the UASR as The Geeks) flooded the market.

The Soviet "Cultural Leap" allowed for artistic expression to explode across the nation. The most extreme artistic expression were severe grindhouse pictures, often following the exploitation genre of horror pioneered by American filmmakers. Of course, this garnered the attention of government forces, who struggled to keep these films from release. One controversial case was Gulag, a 1977 exploitation film done in the manner of an American "Nazi exploitation" film, except set in a Stalinist gulag in the 1930's. The censorship board denounced the film, calling "filth", citing its excessive violence and overt sexuality. The filmmakers responded by denouncing the "Stalinist remnants. The film was delayed until 1983. (Retrospective review stated that the controversy over the movie was more interesting than the act of actually watching it.) War of the Worlds, an adaptation of titular story from 1982, had similar issues, with the censorship board denouncing the needless violence (particularly the look of the Martians and scenes of them sucking blood), as well as how the general populace seemed completely helpless in the face of the Martian invasion. The famed vampire film, The Count from St. Petersberg, was known for being so frightening people in both the USSR and the UASR fainted while watching it in the theater. Yet, it surprisingly was released with little opposition (perhaps because of its denounciation of the Tsarist system). Unlike the FBU, however, the conflict never became a major scare. In fact, after full democratization, the horror genre blossomed in the Soviet Union, without any major restrictions.

The emergence of such games become regularity

 

[The_Red_Star_Rising]

I can't particularly comment since I don't care for the horror genre one iota outside of creepypasta and some games.

Though the Socialist Republic of Italy is currently less than a third of the Kingdom of Italy's size; it's missing the areas that comprised Sardinia Piedmont, the southern part of what made the Papal States, and the kingdom of the two sicilies OTL.

 

[BootOnFace]

Then what does is comprise of? The province of Venice?

 

[The_Red_Star_Rising]

Then what does is comprise of? The province of Venice?

The northeastern quarter mostly, part of it goes past the "spine" of italy but there's no western mediterranean access to my knowledge. Venice is the most likely capital with Rome firmly in the hands of the Kingdom.

 

[Joyeux]

The northeastern quarter mostly, part of it goes past the "spine" of italy but there's no western mediterranean access to my knowledge. Venice is the most likely capital with Rome firmly in the hands of the Kingdom.

Would the borers look something like one of these variations, roughly? I gather that the red, at least, is largely correct, but I don't know about the green. Even so, those are some of the best bits, lots of the industry and fertile Po Valley. I imagine Milan would have been a major target for the Reds for real strategic reasons, and also what with it being the birthplace of fascism.

What might become of San Marino?

 

[The_Red_Star_Rising]

Would the borers look something like one of these variations, roughly? I gather that the red, at least, is largely correct, but I don't know about the green. Even so, those are some of the best bits, lots of the industry and fertile Po Valley. I imagine Milan would have been a major target for the Reds for real strategic reasons, and also what with it being the birthplace of fascism.

What might become of San Marino?

Seems similar to what me and Jello had planned, which was based on a 1946 election map. Overall despite North/East Italy being significantly smaller than South/West Italy it did get some of the most wealthy parts of the country; as well as some of the most ideologically friendly to communism. It may seem small but it's very much a viable country.