Reds fanfic

[Libertad]

As far as I know E. Burke, white racialism in post-revolutionary America is going to look a bit like that of OTL US today, with an internal black colonial elite in a continuing white supremacist society, than any form of Jim Crow revivalism. It's about the fact that the black population is sort of in a more USSR like situation, which creates deformities, than white America, and thus the greater push for higher living standards through New Dealism in a libertarian communist America. New Dealism in a sense that there is something closer to Trotskyite militarization of labor concept. There is outright suppression of sorts by white-populated electoral bodies outside the black majority homeland, but the black population there definitely do have some voting rights, but very filtered through party-list seats or something.

The deal is not much with the planter elite, but between a racially reactionary but economically revolutionary Southern white working class and the Marxist black intelligentsia espousing a Duboisian talented tenth ideology. In fact, the black homeland idea creates a more subtle, private, self-segregation system than any overtly legal barriers.

 

[E. Burke]

As far as I know E. Burke, white racialism in post-revolutionary America is going to look a bit like that of OTL US today, with an internal black colonial elite in a continuing white supremacist society, than any form of Jim Crow revivalism. It's about the fact that the black population is sort of in a more USSR like situation, which creates deformities, than white America, and thus the greater push for higher living standards through New Dealism in a libertarian communist America. New Dealism in a sense that there is something closer to Trotskyite militarization of labor concept. There is outright suppression of sorts by white-populated electoral bodies outside the black majority homeland, but the black population there definitely do have some voting rights, but very filtered through party-list seats or something.

The deal is not much with the planter elite, but between a racially reactionary but economically revolutionary Southern white working class and the Marxist black intelligentsia espousing a Duboisian talented tenth ideology. In fact, the black homeland idea creates a more subtle, private, self-segregation system than any overtly legal barriers.

I was going by the original stories which were more like that.

 

[1965 Timelord]

The anime Mobile Suit Gundam tv series and its franchise derivates in Reds

The creators of the gundam series, Yoshiyuki Tomino, Kunio Okawara, Yasuo Shibue, Hobuyuki Okuma, and Wataru Sekioka look for extra financial support for their anime idea and they get help from the premiere USAR animation studio(Jello's creation). Thanks to the successful negotiations, the Gundam series is ready for production. The finalized contract terms for the series was that 1)Americans will help out in the series production for USAR satellite or cable tv distribution, 2)Tomino has work with two American writers(Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov) to flesh out and edit the final tv series script drafts, and 3) final say on the American actors and actresses for the series.

The Reds version of Mobile Suit Gundam

Same calendar year as the OTL series with the scrapped OTL 52 episodes instead of the final 43 version. The Earth Federation is not the corrupt democratic world government but socialistic version(there are stupid, simple-minded, control freaks in the government and military to balance but not enough for the nasty Titan scenario to occur except in the OTL Zeta Gundam series) and the space colony sides are truly autonomous political states at the beginning of this series. Side 3 becomes the Principality of Zeon after the secret terrorist organization known at the 'Iron Empire' mind programmed the populace via nanites in food, water, and inoculations for two decades. They kill off the minority of the populace(which includes the state president, Zeon Deikun) who built up an immunity to the nanites using a special-designed bioweapon. Only a small refugee group escapes Side 3 and in that group is the dead president's family(wife, 2 children and blood relatives of both the couple).

Before the story date of the tv series, the president's son, Casval joins the Earth Federation intelligence agency as black ops noc operative replacing the real Char Anzable with the sole purposes of spying the Principality of Zeon and assassinating or later on, to kidnapped the Zabi family who are the top Iron Empire members. Amuro Ray and Hayato Kobayashi, in this series, are Earth Federation Space Force reservist officer-cadets under the supervision of Lt. Sayla Mass aka. Artesia Som Deikun. Ray's other friends, Fraw Bow and Kai Shiden are still same as their OTL civilian identities. Lt. Commander Bright Noa, a former FBU naval officer(OTL anime Gundam film series used an actor with a British accent) now part of the Earth Federation Space Force and the assistant to Dr. Tem Ray, director of Project V and other mobile suit pilot of the RGM-79(G)(four in the White Base carrier). New characters additions in this series are Ensign Alexandra Lenin(Susan Dey) as the pilot for the RX-78-1, Chief Lt. Tom Callen(Jim Hutton) as White Base's mobile squad commander

The White Base carrier is colored under the original military color scheme instead of the OTL version and the RX-78-2 is greyish white color scheme and not the OTL scheme

 

[Derekc2]

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Um, 1965 Timelord, whilst I appreciate the enthusiasm Jelllo herself has already called the original Gundam as one of the shows she will certainly make an ITTL version of and in general we are supposed to stay away from those that call dibs on. She actually has a list earlier in the thread and this is the list.

I figured I'd make things easy for everyone. Here's a list of things that have already been laid out in the TL or that I have plans for. If it isn't on this list, go wild

Star Trek
Star Wars
1984
Rambo
The Rock (the action film, not Dwayne Johnson)
GUNNM
Ranma 1/2
Gundam (the main one. any alternate continuities are fair game)
Snow White
id Software
Lord of the Rings (it's pretty much the same as OTL, so nothing exciting going on here)

So um, sorry for that.

 

[Aelita]

Well, he's not that far off from what I had planned.

We were probably both taking some cues from the novelization, though I had imagined something rather less esoteric for the origins of Zeon than mass brainwashing. Rather, growing sentiments of Spacenoid supremacy, Newtype philosophy, and corruption in the Earth Federation setting up the conflict.

The Earth Federation I'd imagined is a rather Trotskyite vision of a degenerated worker's state, succumbing to the ambitions of the nomenklatura, unable to resolve its contradictions, and exporting them to space via the Sides. Zeon would be true national socialists like the Strasserites, but very Hitlerian in their methods.

A lot of conflict in it would be Spacenoids disaffected with the Federation being forced to work within it and put their own revolutionary ambitions on hold to face a common enemy (which would set up something like AEUG for sequels, and ultra-left neo-Deikunists going off the rails from the other direction under Haman Khan's leadership.)

 

[ANARCHY_4_ALL]

Well, he's not that far off from what I had planned.

We were probably both taking some cues from the novelization, though I had imagined something rather less esoteric for the origins of Zeon than mass brainwashing. Rather, growing sentiments of Spacenoid supremacy, Newtype philosophy, and corruption in the Earth Federation setting up the conflict.

The Earth Federation I'd imagined is a rather Trotskyite vision of a degenerated worker's state, succumbing to the ambitions of the nomenklatura, unable to resolve its contradictions, and exporting them to space via the Sides. Zeon would be true national socialists like the Strasserites, but very Hitlerian in their methods.

A lot of conflict in it would be Spacenoids disaffected with the Federation being forced to work within it and put their own revolutionary ambitions on hold to face a common enemy (which would set up something like AEUG for sequels, and ultra-left neo-Deikunists going off the rails from the other direction under Haman Khan's leadership.)

I always prefered Gundam Wing myself. I recently rewatched the unedited version, it had been close to ten years or more since I had watched it. It was like watching it for the first time again. Will there be an ITTL version of that series?

 

[Aelita]

I always prefered Gundam Wing myself. I recently rewatched the unedited version, it had been close to ten years or more since I had watched it. It was like watching it for the first time again. Will there be an ITTL version of that series?

I enjoyed it a lot too, but for whatever reason the main UC series is my favorite (not anything after 08th MS Team though). I could see there being alternate continuities, though I'll leave that up to the fans to be able to play with rather than plan anything myself.

 

[xie323]

I wonder, are there any dystopian novels TTL that mirror history in OTL.

 

[tuxer]

I wonder, are there any dystopian novels TTL that mirror history in OTL.

Well, compared to Redsverse, OTL is a dystopia.

Jokes aside there was a novel that Jello mentioned existing in TTL, I think it was named Fear and Loathing in MacArthur's America (if I am not mistaken), where the Whites won the civil war and all the fun that comes with the USA being a reactionary fascist state. I guess most dystopias' starting point would be the Reds' defeat. That and an Axis victory (which in the Redsverse is beyond ASB).

 

[bookmark95]

I wonder, are there any dystopian novels TTL that mirror history in OTL.

I don't think anyone ITTL would actually predict America being what it is OTL (and personally, I don't regard America as a dystopia).

Most people would probably assume America would either become a fascist state, or a Stalinist State.

The fact that Marxism as a historical theory has been vindicated, so a lot of people would assume America would arrive at being a socialist state anyways.

 

[Miss Teri]

I don't think anyone ITTL would actually predict America being what it is OTL (and personally, I don't regard America as a dystopia).

Most people would probably assume America would either become a fascist state, or a Stalinist State.

The fact that Marxism as a historical theory has been vindicated, so a lot of people would assume America would arrive at being a socialist state anyways.

I had the idea that "It Can't Happen Here", instead of being about American falling into Fascism, is about America falling into authoritarian quasi-Stalinist Communism under a charismatic leader. Just a warning that the UASR could fall to the same fate as the Soviet Union.

 

[bookmark95]

I had the idea that "It Can't Happen Here", instead of being about American falling into Fascism, is about America falling into authoritarian quasi-Stalinist Communism under a charismatic leader. Just a warning that the UASR could fall to the same fate as the Soviet Union.

Well, I discussed a ITTL story where Long did become a Stalinist dictator, but other people thought it was... unrealistic!

 

[Miss Teri]

In the style of my Superhero updates

The Mighty Atom​

In 1947, medical student Osamu Tezuka drew and wrote the manga "New Treasure Island", starting off a long and illustrious career as a manga artist. It found a large audience in the newly founded Socialist Republic of Japan, who needed some sort of relief during the reconstruction from World War II. It was notable for its very unique style, heavily influenced by Disney and the Fleischer Brother. Tezuka would repeat this style in "Metropolis," a science fiction epic about political intrigue in a futuristic socialist society, with super-powered robot Michi and detective Kenichi fighting against Duke Red, a corrupt member of the ruling Red Party. Despite some implicit criticisms of the single party state in Japan, it managed to slip by state censorship, and become even bigger and more influential in the development of manga.

Tezuka was becoming concerned over the increasing tensions between Comintern and the FBU, particularly the arms race between them. He had personally witnessed the fighting in Osaka during Operation Damocles, and had been affected by the bombings of Yokohama and Kyoto, much like the rest of Japan. He also saw the tumult that marked the beginnings of the Socialist Republic. All this installed a revulsion for war and a strong desire for peace within Tezuka. The desire for peaceful use of was reflected in his newest work, Ambassador Atom, about a future run by atomic power. While it sold poorly, a minor character named Atom was quite popular, and Tezuka decided to create a series around him, which debuted in 1952. A massive hit, it spawned an influential anime series, and became a Japanese icon.

Atom was created by a team of scientists, who hoped to create a humanoid robot. Dr. Tenma, the director of the program, after the success of other human like robots, decides to create one which resembles his deceased son, and raise him as his own. However, after several years, Tenma realizes that Atom would never replace his son. Thus, Atom is sold to a factory, where he experiences the horrors of everyday life for many robots. Upon hearing this, however, Professor Ochanomizu, one of the scientists, comes and adopts Atom, having him fight for peace and rights for the lower class robots. He fights an array of fascist and capitalist menaces, some of which are cartoonish French or British villains. Atom also tries to help Ochonomizu, by helping research into how to use the technology to help people and robots alike. In a way, The Mighty Atom was a force for peace in the world, helping alleviate conflicts, and helping humanity reach its full potential. The socialist message is very clear in the very early issues. As liberalization continued in the 60's and 70, Tezuka began to include social commentary, such as a story where Atom exposes a corrupt politician or encounters protests against the government.

 

[Miss Teri]

Based off a dream I had last night, during May Day:

PBS-5 Presents: The May Day Revolutionary Marathon

In honor of the ongoing May Day celebrations, PBS-5 will host its annual marathon of 7 films set in the American Revolution. These films represent both the high and low points of the great struggle, displaying a wide range of reactions to the Revolution, and the fighting. We will have a single film from each decade since the 1930's, representing 80 years of American History. The films featured include:
- Red May (1938): The first film, produced a mere 5 years after the initial revolution. Epic retelling of the events leading up to the revolution, and the formation of the UASR. Features real veterans of the conflict in cameo appearances.
-The Dead Hills (1952): Famed film from avant-garde director Ed Wood, who stars as the leader of a squadron serving in Georgia, fighting against KKK death squads and their fascist patrons
-The Roses of May (1967): A dramatic retelling of the Rose Offensive, one of the most decisive battles of the Civil War. Noted for its military accuracy.
-Red Sun over Arizona (1974): American-Mexican-Italian co-production. A modern "Red Western", inspired by Osterns like "White Sun of the Desert", features Western ranchers and Mexican picker caught up in the Revolution in Arizona. Uses many filming techniques common in western film.
-The Grapes of Wrath (1986): Second adaptation of John Steinbeck's epic telling of Depression era farmers organizing strikes, and later participating in the revolution.
- The Last Election (1992): Made on the 60th anniversary of the 1932 election, deals with said election, particularly the attempts of Herbert Hoover and the Republican Party to defeat the upstart campaign of Norman Thomas, including trying to get Huey Long to drop out to not split the anti-Communist vote. Ends with Norman Thomas winning a landslide.
-Reign in Hell (2004): Explores the reaction to the American Revolution in Great Britain, particularly a young British Girl caught in New York, and forced to survive, while her parents worry.
-Vanguard (2013): Auteur Michael Bay's look into power and corruption in the early UASR government.

Please join us this May weekend in our journey in history.

 

[bookmark95]

Based off a dream I had last night, during May Day:

PBS-5 Presents: The May Day Revolutionary Marathon

In honor of the ongoing May Day celebrations, PBS-5 will host its annual marathon of 7 films set in the American Revolution. These films represent both the high and low points of the great struggle, displaying a wide range of reactions to the Revolution, and the fighting. We will have a single film from each decade since the 1930's, representing 80 years of American History. The films featured include:
- Red May (1938): The first film, produced a mere 5 years after the initial revolution. Epic retelling of the events leading up to the revolution, and the formation of the UASR. Features real veterans of the conflict in cameo appearances.
-The Dead Hills (1952): Famed film from avant-garde director Ed Wood, who stars as the leader of a squadron serving in Georgia, fighting against KKK death squads and their fascist patrons
-The Roses of May (1967): A dramatic retelling of the Rose Offensive, one of the most decisive battles of the Civil War. Noted for its military accuracy.
-Red Sun over Arizona (1974): American-Mexican-Italian co-production. A modern "Red Western", inspired by Osterns like "White Sun of the Desert", features Western ranchers and Mexican picker caught up in the Revolution in Arizona. Uses many filming techniques common in western film.
-The Grapes of Wrath (1986): Second adaptation of John Steinbeck's epic telling of Depression era farmers organizing strikes, and later participating in the revolution.
- The Last Election (1992): Made on the 60th anniversary of the 1932 election, deals with said election, particularly the attempts of Herbert Hoover and the Republican Party to defeat the upstart campaign of Norman Thomas, including trying to get Huey Long to drop out to not split the anti-Communist vote. Ends with Norman Thomas winning a landslide.
-Reign in Hell (2004): Explores the reaction to the American Revolution in Great Britain, particularly a young British Girl caught in New York, and forced to survive, while her parents worry.
-Vanguard (2013): Auteur Michael Bay's look into power and corruption in the early UASR government.

Please join us this May weekend in our journey in history.

Very epic lineup. Television marathons OTL are boring, since they usual involve cartoons.

With this marathon, I can enjoy my revolution with a couch and some popcorn.

 

[xie323]

I wonder, what would TTL's Kaiserreich mod be like if it isn't butterflied away? I presume. For one I feel the 2nd ACW may be modified, with MacArthur replacing Huey Long's AUS as the far-right option.

Huey Long might be the "Totalist" option instead of Foster if the discussions here are any indications.

 

[tuxer]

I wonder, what would TTL's Kaiserreich mod be like if it isn't butterflied away? I presume. For one I feel the 2nd ACW may be modified, with MacArthur replacing Huey Long's AUS as the far-right option.

Huey Long might be the "Totalist" option instead of Foster if the discussions here are any indications.

For your pleasure, TTL's TVTropes page of Kaiserreich.

Kaisrreich Legacy of the Weltkrieg is a popular Red Hearts game mod that is set in an alternate timeline where the Central Powers win World War I, starting in 1936 and lasting to 1999.

Tropes:

All There in the Manual: the mod includes in-game notes that explain the alternate history, the political ideologies (from left-to-right, Totalism, State Socialism, Anarchism, Left-wing radical, liberal, liberal-conservative, social conservative, ultranationalist) which give a greater understand of the game world

Allohistorical Allusion: Many. The Berlin Stock Crisis at the start of the mod is just one example.

• if you make the socialists win the Cuban election, you have the choice of overthrowing them in a fascist coup which creates a lot of dissent that will more often than not results in Cuba becoming an anarchist republic. More amusing, the Cuban government in exile goes to the USA.
• you have the option of creating the Franco-British Union if both the USA and Russia are ultranationalist.
• if the Democratic-Farmor-Labor Party wins any election, an event will happen soon that a workers' strike has disrupted a shady bourgeois conspiracy.

Aristocrats are Evil: the Emancipation Alliance's view on royality and capitalists.

Being democratic sucks: pretty much a big problem for the Emancipation Alliance, as it is much harder to fight against the hostile ultranationalist powers as anarcho-democracies than through a more statist form of government

Evil versus Evil: though the game runs on grey and grey morality, it is possible for the game to end with a final showdown between Totalist left-wing dictatorships and ultra-nationalist nations.

the Empire: the Emancipation Alliance's view on both the German-led Mitteleuropa and the Entente. The Qing China of course can be this if it manages to unify all of China. The Russian Republic and Nationalist France can become be lead towards this outcome.

the Federation: the Social Federation of Japan, the most statist of the anarcho-democracies. Also counts for the United States, if you choose the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party in every election.

Gondor Calls for Aid: if the war against the anarchists is going badly for the Germans, they'll ask their old allies (Austria, Bulgaria and the Turkish Republic) for aid.

Good vs Good: it is entirely possible for the game to end between a show down between the Britsh/French-led anarcho-democracies facing off against a Russia-led alliance of constitutional monarchies with government types being left-wing radicals

Hopeless War: the war between the anarcho-democracies and mitteleuropa can be this for the anarchists, as they are in a much weaker position. Japan will also be unable to compete with the USA, and most often is invaded and occupied by superior American naval forces.

The International: the Emancipation Alliance is this, as an alliance of federated anarchist communes including the British League, the French Communes and the Social Federation of Japan.

Internal Reformer: the player can be this for both the USA and Russia by bringing the left-wing radicals[1] to power who will then implement a few reforms that will end the worst excesses of capitalism

La Résistance: in the Kingdom of Italy there's an underground left-wing guerrilla fighting against the bourgeois government. The French Communes have the choice of financing their (costly) activities, which will allow for a successful revolution.

the Revolution: can happen in the German Empire if either the player or the AI fail to deal properly with the economic recession, as well in Italy as mentioned above.

• can also happen in Russia, where the player has the choice of recreating the USSR.
• subverted with America, a rather controversial point of the Mod. Any actions the player makes, such as electing the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party or the Commonwealth Party and then purposely mess up to create lots of dissent will only result in the assassination of the head of state.

Magikarp Power: of all three main alliances the Emancipation Alliance starts off as the weakest, with little military power, facing the dauting task of winning an inevitable war with Germany or the USA that will most certainly happen regardless of foreign policy and its territories being seized by different nations. However should the player manage to survive long enough, the industrial might of the three nations will create an unstopable force.

One Nation Under Copyright: the United States starts as this, being under the control of monopolistic trusts. The anarchist point of view is that all non-anarchist nations are this.

Red May: adverted. The United States still exists at the start of the mod (1936) and but is Social Conservative, with the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party being the only socialist option but it will only result in a left-wing radical government, meaning the USA is still capitalist. More often than not, the AI makes the ultranationalist Commonwealth Party win the 1936 election.

Victory by Endurance: this is often how the Emancipation Alliance usually wins the Second Weltkreig. Their territory includes huge amounts of population, industry and infrastructure, so they can produce more supplies than their enemies, muster more troops to fight and replace losses faster.

[1] in the Redsvserse social democracy does not seem to have evolved into a seperate ideology, so the in-game status of left-wing radical simply means a militant reformer, though they are not social democrats.

 

[Alexander the Average]

Interesting choice to avoid an American Civil War, although I suppose it does make sense. OTL the USA in the 30s was a period of fairly radical reform that was able to co-opt or sideline more radical movements, whereas in Kaiserrecich it's in a state of extreme instability and upheaval. In the Reds Tl, on the other hand, the 30s are a period of revolutionary change, so instead having the US remain a fairly stable bourgeois republic able to weather the storm of revolution through reforms does make sense from a crazy AltHist scenario point of view. Though I wonder if they might include a possible way for America to go socialist, similar to how they included a way to prevent the American Civil War in 1.6. Maybe elect Huey Long and have him make a deal with the DFLP. Then when they "find" evidence of MacArthur attempting a coup, Huey uses it to implicate the Republicans, and his opponents in the Supreme Court and Democratic Party. Then after they've been dealt with he turns on the more radical and anarchist members of the DFLP, and seizes control of the party, which he then merges with the Democrats. The end result is America becomes a Totalist one-party dictatorship under Long and his Peoples Democratic Party.

Another thing to note is that in OTL Kaiserreich, the countries in South America that tend to go Syndie (Brazil, Bolivia and Venezuela) are all countries that went fascist in the Reds TL. If that remains unchanged I could see Reds Kaiserreich basically being a mirror version of history, with all the major centres of reaction (Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Brazil, Japan, etc.) either being, or at least having the potential to be, major centres of revolution, whilst the main centres of revolutionary upheaval (US, Russia, China, and Argentina) are all reactionary strongholds.

I'm also not sure if victory by endurance would apply to the emancipation alliance, given that they are up against the combined might of the Kaiserreich and friends, Russia, the USA, and China. Looks like they'd be in for a curbstomp battle.

Finally, I'm not sure about having fascism in Kaiserreich, as part of the idea behind Kaiserreich is that fascism hasn't developed as a distinct ideology due to a number of reasons (the success of syndicalism keeping a lot of its proponents on the left, most of the Weltskrieg's losers going far-left, a delayed stock-market crash, more successful authoritarian structures in the capitalist world negating the need for fascism as a solution to revolutionary socialism, etc.). Maybe just have it as National-Populist or Ultranationalist. I would also assume that the way the left/right and authoritarian/democratic sliders relate to ideologies would be a bit different in a world where actual existing libertarian socialism is quite successful would be different, i.e. communist ideologies aren't limited to "dictatorships" but would also include democratic variants (i.e. OTL Social Democrat would be Anarchist, whilst Social Liberal would be Left-wing Radical).

 

[tuxer]

Interesting choice to avoid an American Civil War, although I suppose it does make sense. OTL the USA in the 30s was a period of fairly radical reform that was able to co-opt or sideline more radical movements, whereas in Kaiserrecich it's in a state of extreme instability and upheaval. In the Reds Tl, on the other hand, the 30s are a period of revolutionary change, so instead having the US remain a fairly stable bourgeois republic able to weather the storm of revolution through reforms does make sense from a crazy AltHist scenario point of view. Though I wonder if they might include a possible way for America to go socialist, similar to how they included a way to prevent the American Civil War in 1.6. Maybe elect Huey Long and have him make a deal with the DFLP. Then when they "find" evidence of MacArthur attempting a coup, Huey uses it to implicate the Republicans, and his opponents in the Supreme Court and Democratic Party. Then after they've been dealt with he turns on the more radical and anarchist members of the DFLP, and seizes control of the party, which he then merges with the Democrats. The end result is America becomes a Totalist one-party dictatorship under Long and his Peoples Democratic Party.

Another thing to note is that in OTL Kaiserreich, the countries in South America that tend to go Syndie (Brazil, Bolivia and Venezuela) are all countries that went fascist in the Reds TL. If that remains unchanged I could see Reds Kaiserreich basically being a mirror version of history, with all the major centres of reaction (Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Brazil, Japan, etc.) either being, or at least having the potential to be, major centres of revolution, whilst the main centres of revolutionary upheaval (US, Russia, China, and Argentina) are all reactionary strongholds.

I think that TTL's political landscape would create a desire in AH culture to preserve the United States as any socialist America will be a story breaking power as it begins with a huge amount of industry (something like 500 of Industrial Efficiency), at least 2000 manpower and a considerate number of divisions of varying levels of strenght.

It's mostly balance really as the Red Hearts series p) tends to have a more realistic take on industrial/man power.

In this scenario, a socialist America would simply curbstomp any nation and in the New World and go on a crusade of spreading socialism by force of arms. However, yes the authors might include a way for socialism to take over America in a later version.

I'm also not sure if victory by endurance would apply to the emancipation alliance, given that they are up against the combined might of the Kaiserreich and friends, Russia, the USA, and China. Looks like they'd be in for a curbstomp battle.

My view is that the EA goes to war with the Kaiserreich, with the Japanese Federation harasing and invading the German East Asian Company in the far east. The US entering the war would require a series of events that the AI might not fully take due to AI chance making the game AI take a choice that would derail the war.

Thus the United States does not necessarily enter the war, though it is possible especially if its is authoritarian.

As for Russia at the beginning of the mod it is very weak, has a crippled military and suffers high levels of dissent resulting in revolts, as well having to deal with an economic recession that will cripple the Industrial Efficency. Although Russia can overcome this, it will take at least the early 40s for it have some sort of strenght.

Also as I mention the Second Weltkreig is mostly a "hopeless war" for them as they are simply in a very weak position.

Finally, I'm not sure about having fascism in Kaiserreich, as part of the idea behind Kaiserreich is that fascism hasn't developed as a distinct ideology due to a number of reasons (the success of syndicalism keeping a lot of its proponents on the left, most of the Weltskrieg's losers going far-left, a delayed stock-market crash, more successful authoritarian structures in the capitalist world negating the need for fascism as a solution to revolutionary socialism, etc.). Maybe just have it as National-Populist or Ultranationalist.

good points, so I will change it.

I would also assume that the way the left/right and authoritarian/democratic sliders relate to ideologies would be a bit different in a world where actual existing libertarian socialism is quite successful would be different, i.e. communist ideologies aren't limited to "dictatorships" but would also include democratic variants (i.e. OTL Social Democrat would be Anarchist, whilst Social Liberal would be Left-wing Radical).

social democrats, with their focus on "big government" social programs are anarchists? That is a really unorthodox definition of anarchism.

Also for those very same reasons (sucessful libertarian socialism) that I don't think that liberalism would be considered as left-wing which it isn't even OTL except in the Fox New echo chamber. Liberals would be considered centrists, focusing on law and order, who always prefer a very slow transformation instead of a radical change of status quo.

This is my definitions of Reds' Kaiserreich's ideologies, from right to left:

ultranationalism: an ideology that combines a centralization of power with advocacy of the interests of a nation and a complete disregard for other nations.

social conservatism: an ideology that believes in a strong executive branch encouraging traditional values, with a strong welfare state and a strong law enforcement to crack down on political radicals

liberal-conservatism: an ideology that combines free market economy with support for constitutional checks on government power and representative democracy

liberalism: an ideology that combines a market economy with civic duty to one's community, seeking to co-opt radical movements to safeguard the status quo against structural changes

left-wing radicalism: an ideology that seeks to make a systemic transformation of economy with the goal of abolshing the capitalist mode of production through the accomulation of reforms

Anarchism: an ideology that seeks to radically transform society into a loose federation of democratic communes.

State Socialism: an ideology that combines industrial democracy with a centralized representative government fairly elected by universal suffrage.

Totalism: an ideology that favors an executive power without any representative structure with economic state planning

 

[Alexander the Average]

social democrats, with their focus on "big government" social programs are anarchists? That is a really unorthodox definition of anarchism.

I meant the ideology that's full democracy and full left would be anarchist, as opposed to in OTL Kaiserreich where the social democrats are more democratic than the anarchists, who are technically classed as a dictatorship. Bear in mind that the slider system used in OTL Hearts of Iron, and by extension Kaiserreich, was developed in a world where revolutionary socialism is often associated with authoritarianism and dictatorship, as well as a WW2 that can be divided into three distinct ideological camps that can be labelled "democratic", left-wing dictatorships, and right-wing dictatorships. TTL Hearts of Iron would have been developed under different cultural and ideological influences, and so might not have that rigid three government type system (perhaps a four government type system based on a socialist/bourgeois and democracy/dictatorship axis). That being said Paradox Interactive is based in based in Sweden, which is aligned with the FBU, so it is possible that Cold War ideological biases could still lead to the OTL system being in place.

Then again the creators of Kaiserreich have gone on record saying that the relationship between sliders and government type is not in any way 100% accurate due to limitations of the game engine.