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Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by E. Burke, Jan 17, 2015.

  1. Redshank Galloglass Literally Alasdair Mac Colla Banned

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    Well, Ireland is more like Poland than Belarus, and I don't beleive the Irish language was the tongue of the nation for several centuries. I guess I could see a British proxy party in the IPA making ireland pro-British rather than Pro-American though.
     
  2. Redshank Galloglass Literally Alasdair Mac Colla Banned

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    you should do some poster bios for the three new posters. Mammoth, you, and Shilleagh.
     
  3. Bookmark1995 Bookmark95 Reborn!

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    I think I might look into that little more in my next segment of Memoirs.[/QUOTE]

    My impression of Ireland is that it has always been a very insular place. In OTL World War II, it was content to stay on the sidelines. Up until the 1980s, Ireland wasn't a place that people were eager to visit. I bet they'd be mostly quiet, conservative nation until the 1920s. TTL, I don't know how much of that will change.

    Thank you, but I'm not a expert on Ireland's politics. Hell, I'm surprised that Irish politicians didn't intervene much during the Troubles, despite making their nation into a Republic independent of the Commonwealth.
     
  4. Redshank Galloglass Literally Alasdair Mac Colla Banned

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    Well, Ireland in the 20s was in the middle of a Civil War. before, it was a quiet, depopulated island due to the famine. TTL it probably won't make any world news until the troubles.

    and I meant if you wanted to do anything else with that Irish politician.
     
  5. shadow Well-Known Member

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    I thought Ireland remained a British and later a Franco-British Dominion rather than become a republic like otl thanks to the very different circumstances in the 30s.
     
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  6. Redshank Galloglass Literally Alasdair Mac Colla Banned

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    A dominion? Is it subject to re-conquest by the British Army?
     
  7. shadow Well-Known Member

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    If I am remember correctly Ireland remain a dominion of the British Empire till the late 30s otl. The shift to a republic could be deflected by the outbreak of the Second American Civil War as Irish leaders become more focused on the threat of communism over their issues with Britain.
     
  8. Bulldoggus Socially Guelph, Fiscally Ghibelline

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    *Sings Rule Britannia, startling my bulldog*
     
  9. Redshank Galloglass Literally Alasdair Mac Colla Banned

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    I don't think it would be a dominion, probably remains the Irish Free State
     
  10. Mr.E The Man that Time Forgot

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    So, originally, I was going to do an Indian Political Parties. But, something happened, and I thought a tribute would be appropriate.

    Dawn of the Dead (1978)
    Directed by George A. Romero


    During an unspecified zombie apocalypse, two members of the Proletariat Guard, Roger and Peter, raid a housing commune, which had been holding their dead, despite the ongoing quarantine of dead bodies. The two fights armed citizens and the reanimated dead within the compound. After managing to fight them off, they discuss the situation, which seems dire. Out of the blue, Roger mentions a small planned community a short distance away, which seems to be safe. They steal a helicopter, and head to that community. They find it virtually abandoned, with the exception of Stephen and Francine, who worked at a TV news station, and fled to that community. They learned why it was abandoned, when a zombie appears out of nowhere. They head to the town center, and find other zombies running around. However, using several leftover militia equipment, they wipe out the zombies in that location, and fortified the center, preventing the zombies from intruding. Now safe, they briefly consider their options for leaving, before deciding to stay for a bit, using resources taken from raids from the surrounding buildings, undercover from the zombie. While having a brief relief time, they are soon beseiged by the growing hordes and even survivors.


    Romero was inspired to set the film in a planned community upon visiting a planned community in Pennsylvania, and learning how said community was prepared for any conflict. Romero, considering a spiritual successor to his Night of the Living Dead, considered how that scenario may play out in such a community. Made in part in East Italy, it would be a commercial and critical success, and later a cult classic when it came on Laserdisc.
     
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  11. shadow Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand I thought the Irish Free State was when Ireland still retain the British Monarchy as Monarchs of Ireland.
     
  12. Redshank Galloglass Literally Alasdair Mac Colla Banned

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    yah it was my bad. Still don't think the Irish would want to remain a dominion of Britain tho even with Anti-Communism being prevalent.
     
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    @Inquisition @Bhangbhangduc

    After playing Hearts of Iron IV some more I thought of the Reds Mod for Hearts of Iron IV again.

    Starting factions:

    Comintern: Union of American Socialist Republics (Leader), Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Mongolia, Tannu Tuva, Socialist Republic of Mexico, Nicargua, Guatemala, Panama, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Honduras, Columbia, Argentina, Chile, Peru, Ecuador. Typical Additional members: Sinkiang, Communist China, Left KMT, Iran, Republican Spain (automatically joins after France falls if still in existence), Shanxi Clique, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Guangxi Clique

    Axis: Germany, Italy. Typical Additional members: Japan, Thailand, Hungary, Romania, Croatia, Finland, Sweden, Brazil, Venezuela, Paraguay, Uruguay, Bolivia, Bulgaria, Falangist Spain, National France, Iraq, Turkey, Manchukuo, Menguko, Right KMT, Yunnan Clique, Ma Clique, Afghanistan, Tibet

    Allies: Britain, France, Ireland, Canada, Raj, South Africa, Australia, British Malaya, New Zealand, Philippines, Liberia, United States of America . Typical Additional Members: Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Luxembourg, Portugal, Hashemite Arabia, Oman, Nepal, Bhutan, Yemen, Kingdom of Spain, Empire of Brazil.

    And now for country profiles:

    Country Profile: Integralist Brazil
    • Capital: Rio di Janerio
    • Government Type: Fascist Dictatorship
    • Faction: Neutral/Axis
    • Ruler: Plinio Salgado.

    National Spirits
    • European Investments: European governments and firms, smarting from the transformation of Argentina and Chile into socialist states, have looked to the integralist bloc instead. Civilian Factory Build Speed +20%, Military Factory Build Speed +20% (Lost in event of war with the Allies)
    • European Dependency: With War having begun with its former patrons in Europe, the economy of Brazil has begun to flounder. Civilian Factory Build Speed -10%, Military Factory Build Speed -10%.
    • The Green Giant: A vast country with the largest population in South America by far, Brazil may be poor but it has numbers aplenty. Research speed -5%, recruitable population 20%.
    National Focus Trees (these are just basic ideas):

    The Green Tide (Military)

    • Empower the Green Guard (Get small bonuses to special green guard divisions, can be trained a bit faster) -> Keep the Green Guard Elite (No further training bonuses but gives a bonus to morale and soft attack/defense). OR Expand the Ranks (increases training speed but decreases morale)
    • Focus on the regular military (Minor improvements to most divisions instead) -> Integralize the army (increases morale) OR Give the Officers more leeway (increases planning speed)

    Feeding the Jaguar (Industrial)
    • Expand Native Industries (+10% Military factory production speed)
    • Buy from abroad (Some sort of bonus to getting lend lease and licenses from the axis and allies and a bonus to resources for export)
    The Amazonian King (Diplomacy)

    Trouble in Rio (Internal Politics)
    • Purge the Communists! (Take a hit to national unity but essentially wipes out the Communist party's popularity)
    • Keep the Conservatives in line (Gives a penalty to conservative support, boosts Fascist support)
    Some events relating to Brazil could include some sales of obsolete warships from the other powers, the restoration (not sure how this should happen though), and a tree of focuses that relate to Brazil's decision to engage in major brutality. These war crimes decisions basically are meant to give you some short term bonuses at the expense of making your enemies hate you even more and be less likely to accept a peace treaty as well as raising the chance of partisan activity substantially and causing some national unity hits as people start to have second thoughts. As Brazil starts to lose the war I'd also propose events that revolve around Salgado's decreasing grip on sanity, the establishment's decreasing faith in him, and events that ultimately lead to his overthrow.

    Here's some other quickfire national spirit ideas:

    Italy: Keeps the same spirits plus one more
    • Libyan Oil Boom: The discovery of oil in Libya has lead to a surge in prosperity and bolstered the support for Fascism in Italy (25% ideological drift defense, +20% national unity)
    Soviet Union
    • Junior Partner: The rise of America has lead to the rapid displacement of the USSR from the leader of Communism to America's sidekick, however, it does come with developmental aid. (Penalty to political power, but bonus to research and civilian factory production)
    • Home of the Revolution: While America is now the leader of Socialism in the world, the Soviet Union was the first, as we are quick to remind our American comrades. (50% ideological drift defense)
    • Ideological Divisions: The Rise of America has lead to the left of the CPSU growing increasingly vocal (-10% national unity)
    United Kingdom (Keeps the war to end all wars spirit, King George V, and British stoicism, gains a new one):
    • The Yank Menace: America's revolution has turned the former colony from a friend to an enemy overnight. Every asset of the Empire must be mobilized lest the Americans sweep us away. (10% Military factory bonus, -10% Doctrine Research Time; applies to all Commonwealth members)
    Canada: Remove the great depression, add the Yank menace and add this
    • Red Scare: The longest land border in the world is now a border with a Red Giant to dwarf even the Soviet Union, all Canadians must be alert to this menace. (50% ideological drift defense)
    Sweden: Remove both original spirits
    • Bolshevik Counterweight: With the rise of Red America, the threat posed by the Soviet Union has increased dramatically; leading to a surge of investment by those hoping to keep Sweden as a blocker to the North. (20% factory build speed)
    • Fascist Surge: The Fascist movement in Sweden has been growing rapidly in response to the perceived threat of the Communists (Increase to fascist support)
     
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    wheres is Yugoslavia?
     
  15. The_Red_Star_Rising Homestuck Trash

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    Neutral pre-war, dismembered in 1939, joins the comintern when liberated late in the war.
     
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    I, as a person who grew up including on Soviet cartoons (this is inevitable, since 69 years of history the cinema of Russian cinema falls on the Soviet period, and for the cinema it is a lot, especially considering the lamentable state of Russian cinema). The approach described in the adaptation of children's fairy tales was very curious. And the reaction of American critics to Soviet cartoons became interesting. As always - first a negative, and then a positive article. I hope they will help you to consider some of the features of Soviet culture.

    Conservative time bombs in Soviet children's tales (1980)
    The struggle against revolutionary remnants takes place on all fronts, including at the fronts of children's education. And any easing along this path can become fatal ...

    In European countries, Soviet animation has recently begun to be actively popularized. It seemed, it would be possible to rejoice at the establishment of cultural contacts between countries, but the problem is that the Soviet one has a number of reactionary elements that reflect the bourgeois perigious in their minds.
    One of the most popular cartoons of the previous year was the Soviet adaptation of "Cinderella", we know "Cinderella" as the story of a deceived girl from the bottom. Of course this story is different from what Charles Perot told us. Soviet multipliers decided to use the traditional version of the story. And so - that we have. The movie's heroes were a grumpy stepmother, two of her lazy and unsympathetic daughters, a weak-willed forester husband and stepdaughter, Cinderella. Cinderella with the help of a fairy falls on the royal ball, where he meets the prince. Fairy magic disappears at midnight, Cinderella runs away, losing a crystal slipper. And, as many know, everything ends well. The plot itself has nothing to do with reality, and in general the cartoon resembles phantasmagoria, which actually allows us to treat this product more loyal. But the fact is that this film is being developed by the 1947 film, with Janina Jaimo in the lead role. If the cartoon is more conditional, and is concentrated on the characters, the film amazes with the grandeur and pomposity of its decorations. It seems that the "proletarian" decorators with great love reproduced the premise of the palace. And absolutely irrelevant are dances and huge dishes with ice cream (I will remind you that this is 1947, the time of a heavy post-war recovery). And the top of all this is the marriage of a small, fragile and submissive heroine with a prince! An adequate mood for the famous song of the same name, performed by Lyudmila Senchina. Where a fragile, sonorous girl describes a gorgeous ball (note from Wotan - for the sake of justice it is worth saying that according to the singer's knowledge she is "I'm a romantic, I still read fairy tales." I was told at the school that I'm a princess, and I do not like being like that. Not painted from my youth, all these women's things - for me a nightmare. And here: "Believe me, at least check ..." And I think: well, no!) ....
    But the top of all this is a very strange Soviet film "Morozko" (which is also popular in Czechoslovakia - a fairy tale is often shown for the new year). In this film, the heroine submissively demolishes the exploitation of her stepmother, and shows complete indignation of will and self-esteem. Do not be surprised if with such films the Soviet Union expects a White Guard coup.

    (And here is the song mentioned by the "author" - this must be seen and listened Just try not to love:mad::evilsmile:!
     
  17. WotanArgead God of Impalers Kicked

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    Utopia for the Children
    Many accuse Russian animation in conservatism, in isolation from reality and other conceivable and not conceivable sins. However, behind all the disputes we forgot about one important circumstance - they write fairy tales for children! And here we can already reveal the secret layer of Soviet culture - the Children's Utopia. What are we talking about?
    First of all, in the Soviet Union, a special attitude towards children and to childhood itself. Thousands of kindergartens, Pioneer Palaces are being built, and all adults (and even teenagers) are happy to spend time with their babies. Then that the whole of Soviet culture is permeated with an inexplicable belief in a miracle. And finally, the main thing is the peculiarities of the interaction between the film and the viewer. Soviet viewers are not just passive observers, but also "Live" in the film. They perceive what is happening on the screen as part of their biography. And this concerns the children's audience in the first place.
    First, let's look at the famous cartoon "Bremen Musicians". This is a painted musical (in almost every film and cartoon, either someone sings or plays a voiceover). In addition to the traditional Donkey, Dog, Cat and Rooster, they are joined by a troubadour. There is a story about the love of Troubadour and the Princess escaping from the palace. Many people consider this cartoon a successful political satire. But this particular - I primarily focus on the bright love of life and love of space. Particular attention is paid to the value of love and friendship.
    Next, I would like to highlight the film "Oh, this Nastya". Nastya Ryabinina likes to fantasize, but her class teacher Mariana Borisovna, some of the guys and the elder sister of Light believe that she is telling lies and should stop telling stories she invented, giving them away for what actually happened.
    Nastya told her classmates about her friendship with the black panther. She said that her mother had gone to the unusually beautiful city of Aeolis, which is not on any map. The acquaintance of her sister, Sasha Zharikova, Nastya presented the pilot, kidnapped and captured by unidentified aliens.
    Nastina Mama (who actually worked in EOLIS - the experimental and experimental building of the "Fox") is convinced that her daughter does not deceive anyone, but simply embellishes what is really happening. Over time, the sincerity of the girl's feelings and believed Maryana Borisovna, and the pioneer leader at the class meeting convinced the guys to take Nastya into the ranks of the pioneers. Nastya is accepted into the pioneers at the ceremony a minute of silence at the monument to the memory of the fallen.
    For Russians, fantasy is not a lie but a part of life itself. Especially expressive is the line from the title track, emphasizing the main idea of the film - "If you believe, the fairy tale will come to life." For children, there is no difference between a fairy tale and life.

    PS - Both authors are right and wrong at the same time.
     
  18. The_Red_Star_Rising Homestuck Trash

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    I'm picking up learning how to Mod HoI IV, it's actually surprisingly really easy. Anyone want to join in? I can get you the tutorials that basically let you do everything you'd want to do out of HoI IV short of making graphical effects.
     
  19. Redshank Galloglass Literally Alasdair Mac Colla Banned

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    So I was looking at past posts, and noticed the one where the red star rising said we needed to work on our board characters nuance. So, I figured I'd work on my own characters a bit, to develop nuance.

    Red_DevilDog: The nice guy American chef and former military man who believes in a strongly decentralized worker's state and a more libertarian society.

    Nuance: Despite being a member of Liberation, he tends to be very socially conservative by Liberation standards and very anti-militarist, alienating many many of his fellow Liberation members on the board to his personal politics. Also tends to have a bit of an inflated left-wing machismo, which causes many board members from the comintern to roll their eyes in disdain. Much of this comes from an incredibly hot temper he developed in his younger years which has won him no friends from the farther right members of the board, but plenty of warnings and kicks.

    SanDiegoHeat: The golden girl of Red_DevilDog (he likes Fitzgerald, okay?) and an intelligent teacher and social worker.

    Nuance: Tends to be sheepish with her sexuality (a trait earned from her rather socially conservative parents from Italy) and is often grated by many American Libertines for agreeing with Franco British women on certain issues such as lack of clothing. Also tends to have a large problem with any form of Christianity that she makes well known to the Trinitarians, Catholics, and other Christians on the board.

    DontRockTheBoat: Party boy stoner and video game designer, resident meme-lord and joke dispenser of AH.com.

    Nuance: Has a fairly large drug problem, mainly an addication to marijuana, though he has been known to take other drugs from time to time. Though he is in rehabilitation programs for the stronger drugs he has taken, his marijuana addiction shows no signs of leaving soon. This causes him to often post on the board high, creating rediculous threads and posts that has lead to several kicks. Many on the board worry about his mental state as, in the words of moderator BigRedBear*: "Too much weed will cause Boat's Wiillld Riiide to come to an end if he isn't careful."




    The_Scarlet_Highlander: The gruff working class Scotsman from Glasgow with a heart of gold underneat his blunt exterior.


    Nuance: Despite his status as a card carrying Labour man, and a supporter of general Marxist ideology and internationalism, Highlander has a particular hatred for Irish Communists and Tiocfaidh ar la as they have ties to the Irish Republican Army of the Troubles era and the Northern Ireland conflict. His hatred of the IRA comes not from reactionary sympathies, but a confliction of interests, as his beloved father served in the Black Watch, Royal Highland Regiment during the Troubles, fighting in the "bandit country" of South Armagh. He also has a history of alcoholism, something that his American cousin and hid wife are aware of. Also had a particular disdain for West Germans which puts him at odds with RitterStahl to an almost comedic degree. Also had a past battle with depression, a result of his time in the British Army which left him cynical.

    While he loves his cousin, his wife, and his friends and finds them to be cool people, he also finds Americans in general to be "smug arseholes" and by and large wants nothing to do with them.


    So thats what I got. Hopefully this makes my characters a bit nore nuanced for any future alt-threads.



    * It's CalBear. Any alt-AH.com is not complete without him.
     
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    Well if we are doing this

    Religious_Commie: A teen from the UASR that is highly socially libertine and is a Marxist

    Nuance: Is highly, highly confrontational and somewhat contemptuous to members from the capitalist block that support capitalism and is generally not like at all by the capitalist members and is probably not extremely well liked by fellow members of the Commintern who are less confrontational. He is likely kicked al lot for his intentional baiting and insulting of the capitalist members of the forum -especially those who he considers "Reactionary Scum"- and is likely on the same thin line as a lot of the more volatile members of the forum like Rule Britannia. He is also rather defensive of some of the more questionable actions of the UASR and USSR during the revolutionary period and the Second World war with the claim that it was needed to fight against reactionaries so he defends state sanctioned actions such as the American red terror as a necessary evil to combat capitalist imperialism. Is especially defensive of Foster, Lenin and Trotsky above all others. Also hates Stalin as an opportunistic false Marxist who joined the movement to gain power and not out of any real revolutionary zeal.

    So yeah, I've probably already established this guy's personality but I want him to be a highly controversial member from the UASR since so far most of the assholes come from the capitalist block and not the Commintern.

    Also you need a American asshole in your fake threads, Religious_Commie is right there for you. Also remember the previous notes on Religious_Commie, they still apply so he still acts cordially with Rule Britannia.
     
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