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Officially Paritioning China is something that not even Victorian Europe tried at the height of its power and the nadir of Chinese ability to resist European and American dominance. Forcibly taking northern china and making it independent of the more populous regions to the south is going to go over like a lead balloon at the peace-talks; especially since I'd presume that the Comintern would not recognize Japan's occupation of inner Mongolia and Manchuria as actually being legitimate. And while places like Xinjiang were de facto independent and under heavy soviet influence, de jure they are still part of China and Jingwei's going to react to Soviet attempts at kicking china out of central asia really poorly; particularly with Tibet already being under the Alliance of Free States and thus already taking a chunk out of Central Asia from China.

And China has both the manpower and the material resources to become the third (or perhaps fourth if the latin American communist states get into some sort of confederacy) great mover in the Comintern; easily dwarfing either Japan or the Latin Confederacy. Much like the OTL PRC, this Socialist Republic of China is most likely play its own agenda in the cold war and play the Western Europeans, the Indians, the Americans, the Soviets, and any other major blocs in the first and second worlds off against each other and be fully capable of playing its own geopolitical power games. That being said, you do have a point that it's going to be very suspicious of most everyone else and that the other great powers are going to try and twist its arm to try and weaken it or try to court it for favor against other enemies.
 
That is true. However, given Japan is a UASR ally later on, Zen Buddhism could also make inroads. Indian culture and religion might still be prominent, because individuals sympathize with India (center of spirtuality) being under the morally corrupt capitalist FBU heel. Or conversely, the British and French counterculture (if there is still one) could be more Indian in influence.

I actually see Indian culture gaining some mainstream support in the wider FBU, both in British East Africa, and in the metropoles, especially as India becomes more prominent in the Union (I can see a fairly strong political current in India, and later France once Indochina breaks away, to turn India from a British Dominion, into a co-equal member of the Union alongside Britain and France, turning the FBU into the FBIU). In terms of approachs to work I can see the FBU supporting a professional one job for life model in opposition to the USAR egalitarian generalist approach, which is probably going to gel quite well with the soft casteism that I think would be prevalent in India. Upper-class esoteric neopaganism would probably embrace Hinduism enthusiastically. As global transport becomes cheaper and quicker I can see a Grand Tour/Gap Year tradition emerging within the FBU, with India being a popular destination for university graduates. In time I could see the Ramayana being taught alongside Shakespeare, Victor Hugo, and Proust in FBU schools. I imagine that some academic may even begin to view India as being to Britain what the Byzantines were to Rome.

As for Zen Buddhism, I don't think that Japan being a USAR ally is going to let it gain many inroads, given that I think the Japanese government will be trying very hard to eradicate it. As I understand it, Zen Buddhism was pretty integral to Imperial ideology, in particular to Bushido, and as such I can see the post-war government being very hostile to it (as well as Shinto), both due to state atheism and rooting out elements of the old regime. IOTL the American occupation sought to eliminate the feudal and imperial elements of Japanese society but was willing to tolerate certain symbolic elements such as the continuation of the Monarchy, ITTL the occupation and post-war government is likely to be a lot more thorough in rooting out Imperial and bourgeois elements.

If Zen Buddhism is going to make any inroads it might actually be in the FBU and their allies. Given that the post-war government is stated to be a Stalinesque state, established by an occupying army that nuked Kyoto, I don't see the government being very popular with the population as a whole or being very nice. As such I can see large numbers of Japanese expatriates, both in the more open Comintern countries (The USAR will probably have a larger Japanese-American population than IOTL), as well as large numbers of political refugees and defectors fleeing to the FBU sphere (IOTL the west was very keen on supporting refugees fleeing from the other side of the iron curtain). I can see Zen Buddhism, and maybe even Shinto, gaining some support in Australia, New Zealand, the Philippines, and maybe even the metropoles.

A lot of what's been written about post-war Japan, and its cultural exports in particular, have kind of assumed that Japan is going to be a lot like OTL Japan, but with a few socialist elements sprinkled in for flavour. I actually think, however, that Japan ITTL would be very different given the changes in domestic policies and geopolitics. I'm actually writing something that explores some of the implications that aren't really addressed. I don't want to give too much away, but it is a bit of a Japanscrew, and anime fans might want to crucify me afterwards, but it's not entirely doom and gloom, and there are some aspects of Soviet Japan that are considerably better than OTL Japan.
 
If Zen Buddhism is going to make any inroads it might actually be in the FBU and their allies. Given that the post-war government is stated to be a Stalinesque state, established by an occupying army that nuked Kyoto, I don't see the government being very popular with the population as a whole or being very nice. As such I can see large numbers of Japanese expatriates, both in the more open Comintern countries (The USAR will probably have a larger Japanese-American population than IOTL), as well as large numbers of political refugees and defectors fleeing to the FBU sphere (IOTL the west was very keen on supporting refugees fleeing from the other side of the iron curtain). I can see Zen Buddhism, and maybe even Shinto, gaining some support in Australia, New Zealand, the Philippines, and maybe even the metropoles.

A lot of what's been written about post-war Japan, and its cultural exports in particular, have kind of assumed that Japan is going to be a lot like OTL Japan, but with a few socialist elements sprinkled in for flavour. I actually think, however, that Japan ITTL would be very different given the changes in domestic policies and geopolitics. I'm actually writing something that explores some of the implications that aren't really addressed. I don't want to give too much away, but it is a bit of a Japanscrew, and anime fans might want to crucify me afterwards, but it's not entirely doom and gloom, and there are some aspects of Soviet Japan that are considerably better than OTL Japan.

I believe that Japan could strongly have a capitalist version of a Red Army Faction, seeking to restore Japanese "honor" and drive out the Comintern occupation.
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Japan is central to the factionalism in the commintern with an American and Soviet aligned wing of their communist parties that effectively forms two parties. I expect it to be ugly either side through.
 
I believe that Japan could strongly have a capitalist version of a Red Army Faction, seeking to restore Japanese "honor" and drive out the Comintern occupation.

Probably similar in the broad strokes, but also different in a lot of origins. I could easily see a hardcore imperial restorationist movement emerging in reaction to the rise of an Americanizing Faction taking power in the JCP. Often times the old nationalist elite and ideologues liked Stalinists more than democratic forces that might actually undermine the social values they hold so dear.
 
Making Chinese geopolitics interesting...in the Chinese sense.

Officially Paritioning China is something that not even Victorian Europe tried at the height of its power and the nadir of Chinese ability to resist European and American dominance. Forcibly taking northern china and making it independent of the more populous regions to the south is going to go over like a lead balloon at the peace-talks; especially since I'd presume that the Comintern would not recognize Japan's occupation of inner Mongolia and Manchuria as actually being legitimate. And while places like Xinjiang were de facto independent and under heavy soviet influence, de jure they are still part of China and Jingwei's going to react to Soviet attempts at kicking china out of central asia really poorly; particularly with Tibet already being under the Alliance of Free States and thus already taking a chunk out of Central Asia from China.

I think it can be done if we consider certain factors and butterflies ITTL. IOTL the Chinese government largely abandoned the north to brutal Japanese occupation, to focus on defending the south and coastal regions. This enabled the CPC, allied with the government but still very much independent from it, to gain a lot of good will from the local population when they liberated it from the Japanese and resisted them, whilst also destroying the image of the KMT in those regions. ITTL, however, the CPC and KMT are allied and cooperating on a far greater level, maybe to the extent that the CPC's armed forces are integrated into the Chinese army. As a result, when the KMT decides to abandon the north for the south, the CPC follow with them, or at least leaves fewer soldiers behind to resist the Japanese. This means that both the KMT and CPC lose support in the north, and it’s the Soviet and Mongolian armed forces that expel the Japanese from Inner Mongolia, rather than the Chinese. Furthermore, because of less resistance in the north, the Japanese are able to penetrate even further, which spooks the government in Xinjiang, and causes them to build even closer ties with the Soviets for protection, eventually petitioning the Soviet Union to join as an SSR.

Another thing to consider is that IOTL Marshal Khorloogiin Choibalsan, the socialist leader of Mongolia, was a big supporter of pan-Mongolian nationalism, and wanted Mongolia to be united under his rule, but Stalin kept torpedoing his moves towards it. I believe at one point he suggested that there should be a referendum in Inner Mongolia after the Communists won, but Stalin shot that suggestion down. ITTL, I believe Stalin dies earlier, and in any case the Soviet Union is going to be weary of losing influence in the far-East to the Americans, so they decide to go along with it and don't block his attempts to encourage pan-Mongolism. The USAR agrees to back a referendum because democracy and national self-determination FTW, and under pressure Jingwei reluctantly agrees to it, and it all goes downhill from there.

A rough outline of events might look something like this:

Shortly before the war ends, Xinjiang joins the Soviet Union as the East Turkestan SSR. The remnants of the KMT right are livid, and there are some grumblings from the KMT left, whilst the CPC is generally supportive. Jingwei reluctantly allows this to happen, after all Xinjiang is a peripheral territory, that's mostly desert, and the locals are more Turkic than Chinese anyway. Beside, we're all comrades now, he still need to focus on defeating the Japanese, and he'll probably be able to get it back diplomatically later.

After the war ends, the SU pushes for a referendum in Inner Mongolia, and under external pressure from the USAR and internal pressure from the CPC, Jingwei reluctantly agrees. What's the worst that could happen?

Chinese Mongols vote in favour of unification. Jingwei is now under heavy fire from both the right and the left of the KMT, and even the CPC are starting to realise that they may have miscalculated with supporting the referendum.

The right and moderate left of the KMT begin to form an anti-Comintern faction. Whilst ostensibly still in favour of socialism, they feel that continued membership of the Comintern would mean sacrificing China's interests to foreign powers. Furthermore, there's a lot of resentment within the KMT towards the CPC that's been building up for some time now, with many seeing them as having undue influence due to foreign interference, and being willing to sacrifice Chinese interests in the name of Communism.

The SU, wanting to see how far they can push things decide to call for a referendum in Manchuria, but this is the last straw. Anti-Comintern officers attempt to stage a coup in Nanjing, hoping to destroy the CPC and force Jingwei to stand down in favour of a more centrist candidate. Things don't go as planned, however, and the coup fails, although not before Mao is killed.

News of the attempted coup triggers a wave of violence across the country with red and white terror running rampant. The military, warlords, and local governments find themselves forced to pick sides, and the country descends into civil war. As the war drags on the left-wing elements of the rebels are sidelined, and it becomes steadily more anti-Communist, drawing more and more reactionary elements to its banner, ranging from liberals and the KMT right to fascists and monarchists. At the same time, the pro-government forces become more radical, with the CPC seeing the civil war as an opportunity to implement a second stage revolution, and purge the remaining bourgeois elements. As the fighting gets more intense, Tibet declares independence from China.

The Soviets, having thoroughly burnt their bridges with the Chinese at this point, send troops to help "secure" Manchuria. The Soviet troops "oversee" a referendum on Manchurian independence, which votes 80% in favour of independence. The Chinese and American's don't believe the referendum for a second, but the Soviets are there, they have nukes, and they have bigger fish to fry. The Soviets, more keen to consolidate their hold over northern China, decide to not get involved with the civil war, and forbid their satellites from getting involved. This does not go down well with the USAR, and the growing split between them grows.

The USAR fully commits to supporting the government in the civil war, and supplies them with material and soldiers.

The Korean poliburo, split between pro-American and pro-Soviet factions agree on a compromise, sending material and volunteers under the command of the anarchists (possibly Park Yeol, but if Kim Jwa-jin's assassination can be butterflied away, then things would get interesting). This way they can support the cause and keep both the Americans and Soviets happy, whilst also getting rid of the anarchist gadflies who can go get themselves killed fighting the whites (which couldn't possibly backfire).

The newly established Japanese Republic also declares for the government and sends troops, however they are limited in what they can do, given that most of the old army officers are either dead, in jail, or have gone underground to fight a guerilla insurgency against the new government, which much of their current military is trying to put down. In the end it is decided to release some of the officers and place them under guard, and a small expeditionary force is sent, with the intention being that they will serve as a garrison force, allowing the government to free up forces to crush the rebel scum. This is not a popular move with the wider Japanese population, with many seeing it as plunging Japan into another brutal and costly war, and is complicated when large numbers of the expeditionary forced begin to mutiny and defect to the White Chinese. To add further confusion into the mix, the Japanese anarchist movement begin organising a volunteer force that joins up with the Korean volunteers. The JCP, not without justification, sees this as an attempt by the anarchists to undermine their authority, and this contributes to the eventual expulsion of the Anarcho-Syndicalists from the JCP.

The nascent FBU, still under a Labour/Socialist government, initially supports a peaceful and diplomatic solution to the war, but refuses to get sucked into the violence. Their local colonial governments, on the other hand, seem to be lacking in such noble sentiments, and covertly support the whites, sending material and offering their troops safe haven, whilst many of the POW camps holding Japanese soldiers, suddenly seem to have fewer prisoners. Things really start to change after the FBU election, when the Labour/Socialist government is ousted by the Churchillites/Gaulites who throw their support behind the whites. The Soviet Union still refuses to get involved, but the USAR sends an ultimatum to London, demanding that they back down or the USAR will declare war on the FBU. The FBU calls that American's bluff and refuses to back down, the Americans blink and agree to a ceasefire, and World War 3 is narrowly avoided. At this point the Whites, who were being pushed back and were dependent on support coming through Hong Kong and Indochina, are concentrated in Liangguangin, controlling of most of Guangxi and Guangdong, as well as all of Haina and bits of Jiangxi and Fujia. Tibet becomes a protectorate of the FBU, but it is left ambiguous as to whether they view it as a separate entity, or an autonomous part of China.

Jingwei decides it's best to retire from politics.

During the 50s and 60s the White Chinese regime, initially a military dictatorship, undergoes a period of liberalisation under pressure from the FBU, renouncing their claim to all of China and embracing a Cantonese/Hakka nationalist ideology in order to build local support and legitimacy for the regime, which also allows the FBU to integrate Tibet into India to appease and co-opt pan-Indian sentiment. During the 70s, however, things start to go downhill following the fall of Indochina, reconciliation between the USAR and Soviet Union, and the Canada Crisis, and the Cantonese Republic takes a hard-right turn and a return to military rule. Whilst not North Korea levels of tyranny, it’s not a very nice place. Eventually Macau and Hong Kong are “returned” to Canton, which pisses the Chinese off to no end.

The long-term effects of the civil war on the RoC are extensive. Firstly, the KMT lose a lot of power and influence in the short term, following the purge of the anti-Comintern bloc, which created a power vacuum that is filled by the CPC and the rising anarchist movement, which had gained a boost from the aforementioned Korean and Japanese anarchist volunteers, as well as some of the USAR’s soldiers. This would form the basis of China’s tri-partite system. Secondly, as a result of the succession crisis, China would take a very hard nationalist line on domestic and cultural policy, favouring strong assimilationist policies (in the name of building a “proletarian culture”) and viewing minorities as potential fifth columnists (which in turn inspired the sort of policies that turned that into a self-fulfilling prophecy, such as banning Cantonese in schools). Although this stance would soften following the reconciliation of the USSR and USAR in the 70s, during which China renounced their claims on East Turkestan and recognised the Mongolian and Manchurian governments, the Chinese government is still firmly committed to Chinese reunification, albeit through diplomatic means where Manchuria and Mongolia are concerned.

The civil war is also largely responsible for shaping Soviet and American foreign policy in Asia, with the Soviets tending to back separatist movements in the FBU sphere and condemning “Han social chauvinism” in China with regards to Taiwan and Yunnan, whilst the USAR favoured pan-nationalist movements, particularly pan-Chinese and pan-Indian (sans Tibet which they regard as being rightfully Chinese) movements. This had the unfortunate effect of splitting the revolutionary left, particularly in India, helping to stabilise FBU rule in the immediate post-war period.

One peculiarity of Chinese geopolitics is that in the FBU Chinese food tends to be associated with Cantonese cuisine, whilst in the USAR it tends to be associated with Szechuan cuisine. This has led to more than amusing incident involving Franco-British tourists in the USAR unaware of this little fact.
 
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I believe that Japan could strongly have a capitalist version of a Red Army Faction, seeking to restore Japanese "honor" and drive out the Comintern occupation.

Probably similar in the broad strokes, but also different in a lot of origins. I could easily see a hardcore imperial restorationist movement emerging in reaction to the rise of an Americanizing Faction taking power in the JCP. Often times the old nationalist elite and ideologues liked Stalinists more than democratic forces that might actually undermine the social values they hold so dear.

Maybe someone like Yukio Mishima could led such an organization, given his ultra-nationalism and his love of bushido.
 
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As for Zen Buddhism, I don't think that Japan being a USAR ally is going to let it gain many inroads, given that I think the Japanese government will be trying very hard to eradicate it. As I understand it, Zen Buddhism was pretty integral to Imperial ideology, in particular to Bushido, and as such I can see the post-war government being very hostile to it (as well as Shinto), both due to state atheism and rooting out elements of the old regime. IOTL the American occupation sought to eliminate the feudal and imperial elements of Japanese society but was willing to tolerate certain symbolic elements such as the continuation of the Monarchy, ITTL the occupation and post-war government is likely to be a lot more thorough in rooting out Imperial and bourgeois elements.

If Zen Buddhism is going to make any inroads it might actually be in the FBU and their allies. Given that the post-war government is stated to be a Stalinesque state, established by an occupying army that nuked Kyoto, I don't see the government being very popular with the population as a whole or being very nice. As such I can see large numbers of Japanese expatriates, both in the more open Comintern countries (The USAR will probably have a larger Japanese-American population than IOTL), as well as large numbers of political refugees and defectors fleeing to the FBU sphere (IOTL the west was very keen on supporting refugees fleeing from the other side of the iron curtain). I can see Zen Buddhism, and maybe even Shinto, gaining some support in Australia, New Zealand, the Philippines, and maybe even the metropoles.

A lot of what's been written about post-war Japan, and its cultural exports in particular, have kind of assumed that Japan is going to be a lot like OTL Japan, but with a few socialist elements sprinkled in for flavour. I actually think, however, that Japan ITTL would be very different given the changes in domestic policies and geopolitics. I'm actually writing something that explores some of the implications that aren't really addressed. I don't want to give too much away, but it is a bit of a Japanscrew, and anime fans might want to crucify me afterwards, but it's not entirely doom and gloom, and there are some aspects of Soviet Japan that are considerably better than OTL Japan.

I always assumed that Shintoism was more integral to the Imperialist culture, not necessarily Buddhism. However, in Japan, the two are heavily intertwined, so perhaps we're both right.

With that anime reference, are you going to kill Osamu Tezuka or something like that?
 
I always assumed that Shintoism was more integral to the Imperialist culture, not necessarily Buddhism. However, in Japan, the two are heavily intertwined, so perhaps we're both right.

With that anime reference, are you going to kill Osamu Tezuka or something?

...He better not. Though I'm pretty sure that won't be canon because Jello Biafra has made canon references to Gundam and that's a major Anime series.
 
Osamu Tezuka is safe, so you don't have to worry about anything happening to him, although he probably won't be bragging about a certain aspect of his ancestry. Gundam is also safe, in-fact the Mech genre is one of the areas of that is actually going to do quite well in early Japanese animation.

I don't want to give too much away and I should have it finished by tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest (I'm a dyslexic procrastinator). But I will say this. I can see Japan implementing strong emigration restrictions ITTL.

As for the anti-government resistance, I can certainly see the Imperial remnant playing a big role in establishing it. IOTL the prospect of unconditional surrender to the USA was infinitely better than the Soviets winning. After all the Americans might need some of them, and they'll probably try and build up Japan as a bulwark against Communism. ITTL the Japanese high command are probably going to come to the realisation that there is no way they can win this war, but they aren't going to give those Gaijin Commies the satisfaction of a surrender and will try to take as many out with them as they can. Therefore the Japanese army digs in and prepares to fight a guerilla insurgency against the new government. However, I think it would be too easy to just have the resistance be the wacky ultra-nationalists with more honour than sense. The way I see it, the government keeps making unpopular domestic and foreign policy choices, as well as some very different economic factors that leaves Japan considerably less well off than IOTL, with the government relying more on force and coercion to maintain power, which continues to drive more and more people into the arms of the resistance. In the end the resistance becomes a broad church, incorporating a wide range of opinions ranging from monarchists, to liberal democrats, to anarcho-syndicalists.
 

E. Burke

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Osamu Tezuka is safe, so you don't have to worry about anything happening to him, although he probably won't be bragging about a certain aspect of his ancestry. Gundam is also safe, in-fact the Mech genre is one of the areas of that is actually going to do quite well in early Japanese animation.

I don't want to give too much away and I should have it finished by tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest (I'm a dyslexic procrastinator). But I will say this. I can see Japan implementing strong emigration restrictions ITTL.

As for the anti-government resistance, I can certainly see the Imperial remnant playing a big role in establishing it. IOTL the prospect of unconditional surrender to the USA was infinitely better than the Soviets winning. After all the Americans might need some of them, and they'll probably try and build up Japan as a bulwark against Communism. ITTL the Japanese high command are probably going to come to the realisation that there is no way they can win this war, but they aren't going to give those Gaijin Commies the satisfaction of a surrender and will try to take as many out with them as they can. Therefore the Japanese army digs in and prepares to fight a guerilla insurgency against the new government. However, I think it would be too easy to just have the resistance be the wacky ultra-nationalists with more honour than sense. The way I see it, the government keeps making unpopular domestic and foreign policy choices, as well as some very different economic factors that leaves Japan considerably less well off than IOTL, with the government relying more on force and coercion to maintain power, which continues to drive more and more people into the arms of the resistance. In the end the resistance becomes a broad church, incorporating a wide range of opinions ranging from monarchists, to liberal democrats, to anarcho-syndicalists.
Not bad, but you might want to hit up Jello, this isn't just some pop culture commentary this is a pretty major development of cannon. I'd kind of like it to get authorial approval.
 
I think there's a cannonical occupation of south and north Japan by America and Russia respectively, with the two halves being modeled after the other. Thus after independence I'd expect a deep division of government between the two regions, with the south being a stacked democracy and the north being a full on dictatorship, but all existing under the essentially unchallenged rule of the JCP (which allows factions as a compromise between the two occupying governments).
 
I thought the cannon situation was that there was a joint occupation by the Soviets and Americans, with the post-war government being described as a Stalinist bureaucracy despite being USAR aligned. It's hard to keep track of this timeline.
 
I thought the cannon situation was that there was a joint occupation by the Soviets and Americans, with the post-war government being described as a Stalinist bureaucracy despite being USAR aligned. It's hard to keep track of this timeline.

I haven't known of the Soviet participation in the shaping of the postwar government. I didn't read anything about that. But I do remember that Japan is collectivist authoritarian, semi-Stalinist style.... in some way but it seems to be more of the beginnings of the postwar republic and will not last. It's more like before 1970. I don't see any reason for Japan ITTL to be less well-off than OTL, just because it's politically authoritarian, while economically, it seems more aligned with the American system, but with more forceful coercion by the state, just like with the Soviet Union ITTL. It's very different.
 

E. Burke

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I'm going to rewrite my comics essay, which was written way to fast here's a taste:

Comics as a Counterhegemonic Force in the 60s Revolution

Hard as it is imagine, comic books did not always enjoy the cultural dominance they enjoy today. In fact, for a long period of time they were seen as mere children’s entertainment. Lowbrow fun for kids, but not something adults were supposed to enjoy. The Cultural Revolution discouraged interest in pulpy entertainment, decrying it as intellectual garbage fed to workers by capitalists who saw them as little better than back animals. This ensured that comics remained children’s entertainment, ignored by parents and censors. So long as the heroes were brave socialists and the villains devious exploiters it was given the green light. This attitude allowed writers to sneak in conservative or subversive messages that would never have flown in other mediums, sadly at first it was the conservative ideas that predominated at first. This often included portrayals of gender that would have, rightly, drawn the ire of the Women’s Liberation Union in earlier times. The Damsel in Distress was lived longer in comics and pulp fiction than in any other medium.

Strangely, the only place where graphic storytelling achieved an adult audience was the Red Army. Army regulations severely limited what could be sent in care packages. Comic books were one of the few things that could be included, and became a great source of entertainment during the darkest days of the war. The army attempted (largely successfully) to bury this history, for fear of making soldiers look childish. However, after the war soldiers kept an underground comic industry flourishing, usually under the guise of buying it for their kids.
 
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Strangely, the only place where graphic storytelling achieved an adult audience was the Red Army. Army regulations severely limited what could be sent in care packages. Comic books were one of the few things that could be included, and became a great source of entertainment during the darkest days of the war. The army attempted (largely successfully) to bury this history, for fear of making soldiers look childish. However, after the war soldiers kept an underground comic industry flourishing, usually under the guise of buying it for there kids.

Slight typo there.

Otherwise, fair enough, though the mention of subversive messages is something I have mixed feelings on - it makes it sound perhaps a little too conspiratorial, though I suppose you could say it demonstrates how little comic books were politicised, relative to other things.
 

E. Burke

Banned
Slight typo there.

Otherwise, fair enough, though the mention of subversive messages is something I have mixed feelings on - it makes it sound perhaps a little too conspiratorial, though I suppose you could say it demonstrates how little comic books were politicised, relative to other things.

Thats the dyslexia

I said they had the possibility to sneak in subersive messages, this doesn't really happen till later.
 
Interesting coincidence. I was about to do a "Justice League of Avengers" update, which would feature a roster of the team circa 1966. Want to help with that, E. Burke?
 

E. Burke

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Interesting coincidence. I was about to do a "Justice League of Avengers" update, which would feature a roster of the team circa 1966. Want to help with that, E. Burke?

I got class in like 5 minutes, i should have left already
 
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