Reds fanfic

Sobering to notice that doesn't matter if capitalist or red, USA/UASR people are as 'murican as always.

I'd probably end up living in Red Latin America, wouldn't be able to stand all the americaness.
American Exceptionalism mixed with an ideology that sees its global victory as historically determined.

Let's add an extremely leftist education that emphasizes class struggles, the ecstasy from living in a nation soft on drugs and openly promiscuous, some compulsory military education, a history that involves toppling the corrupt, capitalist society of a general gone bad, the political descendants governing an island less than 100 miles from the shore that provide an easy enemy, the fact that the USSR was able to reform itself, and you get whole cauldron of arrogance.
 
AH Thread:Was the Truman Plan a mistake?

MapleLeaf said:

Uh, UpNorth, let me clue you in on a certain fact: many of those so-called refugees from Hungary were the bourgeois, or the Nazi running dogs, or often one and the same. They lived the fat of their countrymen, and the Cominterm, as history tells you, put a stop to it.

Granted, Rakosi and other communists didn't always do the right things. I understand you're anger at Rakosi for damaging the Jewish faith in his country. But the area was ravaged by war. He needed to do everything he could to stamp out the forces of reaction. The sad truth is that innocents suffer when you change society. The Red Terror here was awful, but America still emerged strong despite, or in spite, of it.

And look what the Hungarians who escaped his grasp did: a lot of them joined the far-right of the capitalist countries that sheltered them. Many of them became horrific businessmen. Some of them even ended up in Cuba, where they aided the criminal MacArthurites.

You can argue made the Western Europeans stab us in the back, but a lot people also argue that fear led to MacArthur and his cronies to overthrow the old Republic. Fear does not excuse such crimes.
 
Somewhat ironic when you realize the origin of the term "American Exceptionalism"

Yeah,wonder if the term would be used ITTL by Stalinists?

Sobering to notice that doesn't matter if capitalist or red, USA/UASR people are as 'murican as always.

I'd probably end up living in Red Latin America, wouldn't be able to stand all the americaness.

Same,actually was the first things i'm wondering since i've first read the alt-AH threads in the second pre-revision,especially the times when RuleBritannia was more of a cardboard shooting range target than an actual character(one of the fan submissions made him a Neo-Nazi in all but name,ffs)*that the Americans somehow didn't have the obnoxious character type,considering the reasons stated above.I imagine UASR won't have anything like Vietnam to turn public opinion soo i imagine the mindset is still WW2 ish,"we're on the side of angels" to paraphrase the opening quotes

I also somewhat echo @Bookmark1995 's sentiments that the UASR/Comintern would support anyone who have "Socialist" or "People's" on their name with all the consequences and the "better them than [insert here]" apologia.

Then again,it might be just projecting OTL views and sentiments to ATL but heck,i can't sleep and wanna rant lolol

*Honestly,current RB is one of my favourite characters here,since now he has more of a personality.
 
Same,actually was the first things i'm wondering since i've first read the alt-AH threads in the second pre-revision,especially the times when RuleBritannia was more of a cardboard shooting range target than an actual character(one of the fan submissions made him a Neo-Nazi in all but name,ffs)*that the Americans somehow didn't have the obnoxious character type,considering the reasons stated above.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I made Skaelingking the way he was. I felt there should be a character who is completely apolitical, who hates both the left and right with a sort of equal passion, essentially a nihilist and a misanthrope, because there were already a lot of political caricatures being used.
 

cgomes

Banned
Exactly, I'm very sorry deleon's crew, but I just can't stand the mehreen thing lol

Doesn't matter if theyre jesus reborn or some shit, USMC are assholes no matter what hahahah
 
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I made Skaelingking the way he was. I felt there should be a character who is completely apolitical, who hates both the left and right with a sort of equal passion, essentially a nihilist and a misanthrope, because there were already a lot of political caricatures being used.

Did you get the impression that UpNorth, my character, was caricature, or do you think he was a real person whose views go down the middle?
 
Exactly, I'm very sorry deleon's crew, but I just can't stand the mehreen thing lol

Doesn't matter if theyre jesus reborn or some shit, USMC are assholes no matter what hahahah

That's because you don't understand them lol

Sorry to say, but my marine character is here to stay, simply because he is supposed to be me.

Also, while they aren't fighting the Army over budget in Red America, they still have an ego the size of a house.
 
Yeah,wonder if the term would be used ITTL by Stalinists?



Same,actually was the first things i'm wondering since i've first read the alt-AH threads in the second pre-revision,especially the times when RuleBritannia was more of a cardboard shooting range target than an actual character(one of the fan submissions made him a Neo-Nazi in all but name,ffs)*that the Americans somehow didn't have the obnoxious character type,considering the reasons stated above.I imagine UASR won't have anything like Vietnam to turn public opinion soo i imagine the mindset is still WW2 ish,"we're on the side of angels" to paraphrase the opening quotes

I also somewhat echo @Bookmark1995 's sentiments that the UASR/Comintern would support anyone who have "Socialist" or "People's" on their name with all the consequences and the "better them than [insert here]" apologia.

Then again,it might be just projecting OTL views and sentiments to ATL but heck,i can't sleep and wanna rant lolol

*Honestly,current RB is one of my favourite characters here,since now he has more of a personality.

I'm pretty sure that was actually me that made him a Neo-Nazi at one point, but I changed the character to a Scottish MRA.
 
Exactly, I'm very sorry deleon's crew, but I just can't stand the mehreen thing lol

Doesn't matter if theyre jesus reborn or some shit, USMC are assholes no matter what hahahah

Actually, that would make for an interesting Alt-AH character. A character who thinks military vets, particularly the marines, are asswipes. That would make for some funny dialogue in my mind.
 

cgomes

Banned
That's because you don't understand them lol

Sorry to say, but my marine character is here to stay, simply because he is supposed to be me.

Also, while they aren't fighting the Army over budget in Red America, they still have an ego the size of a house.
Exactly, I don't mind marines per se, but my thirdworldist self just can't see them as a positive force, even though they are one in universe.
 
Yeah,wonder if the term would be used ITTL by Stalinists?


I also somewhat echo @Bookmark1995 's sentiments that the UASR/Comintern would support anyone who have "Socialist" or "People's" on their name with all the consequences and the "better them than [insert here]" apologia.

Then again,it might be just projecting OTL views and sentiments to ATL but heck,i can't sleep and wanna rant lolol

*Honestly,current RB is one of my favourite characters here,since now he has more of a personality.

Well, I think that might be one the reasons why relations chill so badly between the FBU and the Comintern. Eastern Europe belongs to the USSR bloc, and despite the UASR being a "moderating" force, that won't stop the Soviets from creating Marxist states. Considering that the USSR will not be an open society until the 1980s, it means these countries are not going to be welcoming places to live in the short term, and this will only scare the European public.
 
Exactly, I don't mind marines per se, but my thirdworldist self just can't see them as a positive force, even though they are one in universe.

That's the thing. They aren't a positive force OTL, and ITTL they still love to talk trash.

However, even though they are shock troopers, they still conduct humanitarian missions much like the OTL marine corps.
 
I'm pretty sure that was actually me that made him a Neo-Nazi at one point, but I changed the character to a Scottish MRA.
No, it was something that happened before you joined. A Social Democrat, called the Young Contranian made a fan post back when the thread a Red Dawn was still going, which had a few characters from his interpretation of modern day White Cuba have a conversation ITTL and "RB" acted that the fact that the present generation of White Cubans learned Spanish as well as English as abhorrent and got "banned" by Jane the Admin. Back then RB was a lot more of a caricature of what the right of the FBU would be than just a right winger who's a somewhat of an asshole even in the canon stuff and a lot more people back then seem to have genuinely hate his guts in the real life thread than they do now.
 
No, it was something that happened before you joined. A Social Democrat, called the Young Contranian made a fan post back when the thread a Red Dawn was still going, which had a few characters from his interpretation of modern day White Cuba have a conversation ITTL and "RB" acted that the fact that the present generation of White Cubans learned Spanish as well as English as abhorrent and got "banned" by Jane the Admin. Back then RB was a lot more of a caricature of what the right of the FBU would be than just a right winger who's a somewhat of an asshole even in the canon stuff and a lot more people back then seem to have genuinely hate his guts in the real life thread than they do now.

I've sorta noticed that the alt-AH characters are getting friendlier towards RB.

Anyways, I though that we were talking about "The Great MRA circlejerk"thread.


I think I remember seeing something like that actually, I'd been a lurker for a few months until I met Red Star on YouTube and joined the discussion.
 
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