Red Storm Rising – WWIII in 1986 - vignettes

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Those days I've been reading Tom Clancy Red Storm Rising (RSR) again and again.
I'm fascinated by the first aeronaval battle, when Tu-22M Backfires thoroughly devastate a fleet of aircrafts carriers escorting a Marines amphibious force. Among horrendous casulaties Ticonderoga, Nimitz and Saipan are badly damaged or sunk by swarms of supersonic antiship missiles.
Then there is also the French carrier Foch, which is wrecked and probably sunk by three missiles. I often wondered how would the crippling loss affect the French Navy in the war and afterwards. More generally, I want to write vignettes set in the RSR alt history. So, without much fanfare, and inspired by the varied Red Dawn threads on this board...here is a Red Storm rising thread.

I plan to update the posts with photos (and if someone wants to try some CGI, that person is welcome !)
 
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RED STORM RISING - DANCE OF THE VAMPIRES - THE AFTERMATH



The Tomcats had all been drawn off, leaving the formation practically naked. The only armed fighters over the formation were Foch's eight Crusaders, long since retired from the American inventory. On a terse command from their carrier, they went to afterburner and rocketed southwest toward the Backfires. Too late.

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Toland fell to his knees and looked outboard. Foch had been to their north, he remembered. Now there was a pillar of smoke. As he watched, the last Kingfish was detonated a hundred feet over Saratoga's flight deck. The carrier seemed undamaged. Three miles away, Ticonderoga's after superstructure was shredded and ablaze from a rocket that had blown up within yards of her. On the horizon a ball of flame announced the destruction of yet another- my God, Toland thought, might that be Saipan? She had two thousand Marines aboard . .



Toland took a pair of binoculars and looked around to see what ships were nearby. What he saw chilled him.
Saratoga was the only ship that looked intact, but on second glance her radar mast was askew. Foch was lower in the water than she ought to have been, and ablaze from bow to stem.


"Where's Saipan?"

"Blew up like a freakin' firework," Commander Bice replied. "Holy Jesus, there were twenty-five hundred men aboard! Tico took one close aboard. Foch took three hits, looks like she's gone. Two frigates and a destroyer gone.



The eight French Crusaders were just making contact with the Backfires. The Russian bombers were on afterburner and were nearly as fast as the fighters. The carrier pilots had all heard their ship go off the air and were consumed with rage at what had happened, no longer the cool professionals who drove fighters off ships. Only ten Backfires were within their reach. They got six of them with their missiles and damaged two more before they had to break off.

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The total loss of life was still uncertain, but scarcely two hundred men had escaped from Saipan, and only a thousand from Foch.In terms of casualties this had been the bloodiest defeat in the history of the United States Navy, with thousands of men gone and not a single kill to offset the losses. Only the French had scored against the Backfires, succeeding with twenty year-old Crusaders where the vaunted Tomcats had failed.

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WWIII started on June 15, 1986 and lasted barely 34 days. It brought absolute devastation in Germany and elsewhere.
On day 3 of the war, June 18, 1986 a carrier battlegroup protecting a Marines Amphibious Unit was devastated by Soviet antiship missiles.

It should be noted that, even if De Gaulle had withdrawn France from NATO command in 1966, the French Navy had made clear that if WWIII ever broke out the Foch and Clemenceau would be send in the Atlantic for convoy duties along with American carriers. There was no question about that, so that fateful day Foch was steaming along USS Saratoga and USS Nimitz, protecting a Marine Amphibious Unit on its way to the battered Iceland. The amphibious ships like USS Saipan were slow and vulnerable; but the air cover provided by the three carriers was formidable, and the task force was reinforced by an AEGIS cruiser, the Ticonderoga.

What happened was that Badger subsonic bombers lured away the Tomcat force, which spent its fabled Phoenix missiles shooting drones maskerading as Badgers. Once the Tomcat fleet away from the battlegroup, the much more redoutable Tu-22M Backfires come out of nowhere and fired no less than 140 supersonic, heavy antiship missiles toward the task force - with devastating results. With the Tomcat away the only air cover left was Foch eight Crusaders that were imediately launched and chased the Backfires; but they were too little and too late. The second line of defence, the lone AEGIS cruiser Ticonderoga, was simply overwhelmed with missiles; other older SAMs had a harder time shoooting low and fast targets.

USS Nimitz was ripped open by two missiles but survived while Saratoga was slightly damaged by a single missile that detonated ahundred of feet above its flight deck, damaging that carrier main mast. Missile cruiser Ticonderoga was severely damaged, its aft structure flattened by a single impact. The worse, however, was to come as more missiles found the amphibious force the carriers were to protect. The USS Saipan amphibious ship carrying 2500 Marines was simply blown away with very little survivors – merely a couple of hundred. Nimitz lost 500 sailors, Foch, 900 of its 1800 crew. Total number of killed was around 4000 or even more, the bloodies defeat in US Navy history, as bad as Pearl Harbor.

Three AS-6 Kingfish found the Foch, went through the MASURCA and Tartar SAMs and hit the French aircraft carrier in rapid succession, fore to aft.

The first Kingfish penetrated the flight deck near the bow and exited from the side of Foch at gallery deck level before exploding in the ocean. The force of the explosion wrecked the hull shape, pushing metal plates inwards.

The second AS-6 Kingfish struck the flight deck centerline, penetrating to the hangar deck, vaporizing the Super Etendards there, igniting fires through the second and third decks, and knocking out the Combat Information Center and air plot. The hangar deck contained 18 combat aircrafts and helicopters. The explosion on the hangar deck ignited the fuel tanks on the aircraft, and gasoline vapor explosion devastated the deck. Only two crewmen survived the fire on the hangar deck. The explosion also jumbled aircraft together on the flight deck above, causing further fires and explosions.

The third Kingfish hit at the stern, tearing through two decks, up to the ship machinery it completely wrecked, destroying the steam plant and catapults.

Initial damage assessment showed the Foch main deck entirely destroyed from bow to stern, the hangar, catapults, aircrafts, helicopters all gone, and so was the machinery. The carrier had been essentially flattened with the exception of the island precariously standing on the edge of a smoldering, blackened crater. As fires raged, the island finally collapsed under its own weight, falling to the side, into the empty hull.

Foch lay dead in the water, lost all radio communications, and broiled under the heat from enveloping fires. On the bridge, amiral Jean-Charles Lefebvre ordered Foch's magazines flooded but this could not be carried out as the ship's water mains were destroyed by the explosions or fire. All hope of salvaging anything was lost and Lefebvre transferred his flag to the Colbert heavy cruiser. He ordered to abandon ship but refused to scuttle the Foch immediately as there were still many men alive below deck. Such was the flight deck devastation, there was not a single flat spot left where an helicopter could land. Smoke and fire greatly hampered rescue operations.

Many of the 1800-strong crew were blown overboard, driven off by fire, killed or wounded. When totaling casualty figures number was 924 killed in action. Certainly, the casualty figures would have far exceeded this number, but for the work of many survivors who administered the last rites, organized and directed firefighting and rescue parties, and led men below to wet down magazines that threatened to explode. Another survivor discovered 300 men trapped in a blackened mess compartment and, finding an exit, returned repeatedly to lead groups to safety.

Once the wounded were evacuated and the dead bodies collected the question arose of what to do of the Foch empty hull. Ultimately Lefebvre ordered the Foch to be scuttled. France first nuclear attack submarine, the Rubis, finished Foch with a volley of torpedoes. The devastated aircraft carrier took a marked list and then slided below the waves.

The only postive note was that eight French Crusaders send against the Backfire force killed six bombers and damaged two. Each Crusader was armed with a pair of Matra Magic, short range missiles not unlike american Sidewinders, including mixed reliability. The French pilots took no risks and showed no mercy. They prefered firing two missiles against the same Backfire, ensuring a kill.

Now low on fuel the Crusaders circled over the devastated battlegroup, their pilots teeming with rage. USS Saratoga was the only carrier left and as such it had to recover all the Tomcats, their tankers (Intruders and Corsair IIs) and 8 French Crusaders that had no carrier left to land. The Saratoga deck and hangars were soon pretty crowded; the long range Intruders were ordered to fly to Europe in order to make room for all the aircrafts orphans of Foch and Nimitz. They were followed by A-7 Corsair II which went to Germany to bolster NATO strike force.

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What consequences for the French Aeronavale ?

1 - How was air defence of the Foch organized ?

There was four lines of defence

  • Eight Crusader aircrafts

  • The MASURCA long range SAM (three ships: Suffren, Duquesne, and Colbert heavy cruiser)

  • SM-1 Tartar (two T-47 frigates, two others had been scrapped except for the Tartar that were to be upgraded and fitted to a couple of new frigates, the Cassard-class, in 1988)

  • Did Foch had something akin to a CIWS? Not quite. There were four turrets with 100 mm guns dating from 1953...
Even before the battle the French Navy aknowledged that the Clemenceau-class self defences were utterly obsoletes... and as such (the irony!) at the time of June 1986 WWIII the Clemenceau was undergoing an IPER (French own SLEP upgrade) to be overhauled with Crotale short range SAMs. The Foch was to follow as soon as Clemenceau would be available, prbably early in the year 1987 had the war not broke out.

The day Foch was sunk, SAM defence of the French fleet consisted of

  • 1*Colbert heavy cruiser, MASURCA

  • 1*Suffren frigate, MASURCA

  • 2*T-47 escorts - Dupetit-Thouars, Du Chayla with SM-1 Tartar

  • Foch eight Crusaders

  • Foch 100 mm self defence guns
The MASURCA was an old, heavy and cumbersome system yet it managed to shoot down a handful of AS-6 Kingfish. With the stock of MASURCA depleted T-47 Tartar took over and did a good job, but the lack of a third ship was felt bitterly. Once the Tartar were depleted it was game over for Foch – there was no way its heavy and cumbersome 100 mm guns tracked something as low and fast as an AS-6 Kingfish.

For the record, USS Nimitz was targeted by five missiles but its fast firing automated CIWS 20 mm guns killed two missiles while a third was lurred by a cloud of shaff. The CIWS however was overwhelemed by the last two missiles flying too close from each other and engaged neither.

How did the French Navy reacted to the loss of Foch?

As we saw earlier Clemenceau was near the end of an IPER upgrade that included Crotale close defense missiles. It was to be back in service by October 1986 but that was cancelled and the carrier was pressed into service.

Meanwhile the US Navy decided to symbolically help the belaguered French Aeronavale. The closest thing from a Clemenceau class carrier in the USN inventory was the Essex-class of 24 carriers build during WWII. Unfortunately most of the Essex had been retired and scrapped by 1976. The last two survivors were the Oriskany and Lexington.

Back in 1981 Oriskany had been considered for reactivation for Reagan 600-navy ship but nothing had happened, so the last Essex in service remained the Lexington. It was used as the USN training carrier, teaching future pilot the intricacies of carrier landings.

Because WWIII was limited to the Atlantic, the USN decided to detach one of its Pacific Forrestal-class carrier to the training role, freeing the Lexington from its training shores. The USN offered Lexington to France, with the name (quite inevitably!) changed to La Fayette. The French Navy briefly hesitated then accepted the ship.

Second part of the USN deal was aircrafts, mostly F-8 Crusaders. The USN proposed the Aeronavale ten F-8J to be taken out of storage at Davis Monthan, Arizona and refurbished. They would be armed with four AIM-9L Sidewinder. That air to air missile was redoutable; in the Falkland war it had armed the Sea Harriers, with stunning results.

The French however said no, thanks. The Crusader force was intact, having flown out of Foch before it was hit.

Squadron 12F had a strength of eight aircraft aboard Foch with four more left on the ground, totaling 12. The other Crusader squadron, the 14F had been disbanded in 1979, also with twelve aircrafts, for a total of 24 operational aircrafts in the late 70's... but back in '64 the French had bought, not 24 Crusaders, but 42, so even with the usual atrition, the Aeronavale had well enough Crusaders in reserve.

The real loss was with the Super Etendard fleet, of which fourteen went down with Foch. The USN and Marine Corps proposed the Aeronavale refurbished A-4 Skyhawks, A-7 Corsair II or even a detachment of AV-8 Harriers but the French stuck with the Super Etendard, Dassault and the Aeronavale charging ahead with new aircrafts. Lost Etendard IVP and Alizés were mostly obsolete aircrafts which loss was less damaging. A handful of helicopters had also been lost, but they were more easy to replace.

The thoroughly traumatized French aeronavale, however, requested a different kind of mothballed aircraft. They had been impressed by the E-2 Hawkeye performance, unfortunately those birds were way too big and heavy for either Clemenceau or La Fayette. Hearing that, Grumman made an interesting proposal. Before the E-2 was the E-1, a naval AWACS derived from the good old Tracker. 88 E-1 Tracer had been build and used until 1977 when the far superior E-2 took over. Grumman and the USN proposed to take five Tracer out of mothball and upgrade them to provide the Aeronavale with a much needed early warning system. The war was over before the deal could be done, and once the urgency got away, the Tracer deal took a different shape. The French asked for the piston-engines to be replaced by turboprops, creating the TurboTracer. The French used a total of six E-1C from both Clemenceau and La Fayette.

Which bring us to the crucial issue of replacing the lost Foch.

Loss of the ship happened at a very crucial moment in the history of its successor, once known as the Richelieu and rebranded Charles de Gaulle on May 18, 1986 – only a month before WWIII broke out (Somewhat ironically Foch was blown to smithereens on June 18, a day that lives in France history as the day (in 1940) Charles de Gaulle initiated Free France by a radio call from London).

Construction of the Richelieu had been approved on February 4, 1986 - only days after the initial events that triggered WWIII, that is, the destruction of USR major oil refinery by muslim terrorists, Janaury 26, 1986.

First metal was to be cut in the year 1987 but the loss of Foch dramatically altered those plans. Post-disaster examination of Foch showed that, unlike the much bigger and roomy Nimitz the carrier smaller size meant devastation from top to bottom, destruction reaching deep inside the hull, down to the keel. It happened that Richelieu was to be designed as a much upgraded Clemenceau-class with longer catapults and nuclear propulsion. French Navy designers however faced nightmares of a Richelieu ship ripped open like Foch, except with damaged nuclear reactors spewing radioactivity all over the place. Most importantly, construction of France very first nuclear surface ship would take the major part of the next decade and half. After the loss of Foch it was decided to cut time and costs by fitting the new carrier with conventional propulsion, with the hope that lower costs would allow for funding of a second ship. That decision proved to be wise.

Meanwhile by 1987 the French Fleet was undergoing a massive change in its SAM umbrella. Both MASURCA and Tartar had shown their limits and were to be phased out. Before WWII broke out the T-47 Tartar-armed ships from the 60's were to be replaced by a couple of new frigates - the Cassard-class to enter service by 1988. Yet to save cost, the new frigates were to use Tartar systems salvaged from their predecessors with only minor upgrades ! Needless to say that scheme sunk with the Foch. Instead the French Navy decided to go with the next logical step – the Standard missile.

The RIM-66 Standard missile program was started in 1963 to produce a family of missiles to replace existing guided missiles used by the Terrier, Talos, and Tartar missiles. The intention was to produce a new generation of guided missiles that could be retrofit to existing guided missile ships. Standard used the same fuselage as Tartar for easier use with existing launchers and magazines for that system. Then RIM-66E was the last version of the Standard which entered service in 1983 with the United States Navy and export customers. The RIM-66E was used by all remaining Tartar vessels that were not modified to use the New Threat Upgrade (NTU gave AEGIS-compatibility to old ships, and the French hoped to go NTU or even AEGIS, probably in the 90's).

So the Cassard-class frigates would be build with RIM-66E Standard in place of the RIM-24 Tartar. Five ships would be build, not two, to replace the MASURCA ships. RIM-66E range was enough to replace both SAMs.

Then there was the difficult case of the Crusader replacement. The F/A-18 Hornet was tempting, but it was just too heavy for both Essex and Clemenceau class carriers, which catapults were too short.

Trials from Clemenceau in 1988 showed that even with a pair of Sidewinder and Sparrow (and not a single pound of air-to-ground munition) Hornets had to cut internal fuel to the point they could barely reach a tanker. That, and the Rafale demonstrator (not prototype) flew in the middle of WWIII, on July 4, 1986. Dassault made clear the Aeronavale would be a customer one way or another, sooner or later – probably within the next decade. So there was no room – money ! - left for Hornets.

The solution found was a thorough update of eighteen Crusaders including the all-aspect infrared Matra Magic 2 AAM. Lessons learned from chasing the Backfires included carriage of four Magic 2 (not two!) even if the structure had to be reinforced to carry them. The missiles used to kill the Backfires had been Magic 1, with could only be fired in a stern chase. Magic 2 had no such limit and was an all aspect weapon. The Aeronavale reasonned that although nothing like Tomcats, Crusaders armed with four Magic 2 and vectored by E-1C would be good enough to protect Clemenceau and La Fayette over the next decade.


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French Stoof-with-a-roof (the date is wrong , but it doesn't matter)
 
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Really good stuff! And very rational too. The attack on the NATO CBG is apparently very close to an actual Soviet plan and before the proliferation of AEGIS equipped ships probably what would have happened if it had worked as it did in this case. Whilst its guidance package is by NATO standards rather simple the AS-6 is a brute of a missile. A massive warhead and absurd speed on its final approach make it damn hard to bring down and when it hits it will kill anything it hits with a single hit save a carrier or an Iowa class ship.

And even they would be left reeling from the hits.

The Foche is more akin to a WW2 design and they were good ships who gave many decades of service but three AS-6's would kill her, especially if they hit as you described. The Nimitz was lucky in that she was hit by two sea skimmers whilst the Foche was hit by some doing a full on terminal dive. The different attack approach is again in line with what the Soviets could do. The AS-6 had two attack modes. Fly high and then dive down or fly at medium altitude and then accellerate and drop down low. Not a harpoon/exocet esque sea skimmer but low enough to be below the envelope of most SAM's and coming in at stupidly high speed making them hard to hit. In the attack the Backfires seem have fired their missiles and they were programmed to do one or the other, they can't switch modes. The SS-N-19 is kind of like this but is more flexible. They fly at low (ish) altitude whilst one missile flies higher up feeding targetting data to the other missiles. If its destroyed another pops up to replace it.

Replacing the Tartar with Standard's makes a lot of sense and its logical, you'd probably see a proliferation of point defence SAM's like the Coratale being hasily installed on other ships along with Phalanx/Goalkeeper systems.
 

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I did a quick check of surviving Essex and only old Lexington survived the 70's. I drew inspiration from the Falkland war USN plan to loan USS Iwo Jima LPH to the RN if a British carrier was lost.
Later in Red Storm rising when they fight for Iceland it seems that HMS Illustrious is also hit by a missile, courtesy of a Charlie cruise missile submarine. So maybe the RN got that Iwo Jima in the end ;)
 
Later in Red Storm rising when they fight for Iceland it seems that HMS Illustrious is also hit by a missile, courtesy of a Charlie cruise missile submarine.

I'd be interested to find out what happened to the Illustrious.
 

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Later in Red Storm rising when they fight for Iceland it seems that HMS Illustrious is also hit by a missile, courtesy of a Charlie cruise missile submarine.

I'd be interested to find out what happened to the Illustrious.

Well, there is no further detail in the book. But the Illustrious must have been pretty badly damaged.
 

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Thirty thousand feet over the Rhin, two NATO E-3A radar aircraft fought for their lives. A determined Soviet attack was under way, two regiments of MiG-23 interceptors rocketing through the sky toward them. The on-board controllers were calling for help. This both distracted them from countering the attack, and stripped fighters from other missions. Heedless of their own safety, the Russians came west at over a thousand miles per hour with heavy jamming support. American F-15 Eagles and French Mirage jets converged on the threat, filling the sky with missiles. It was not enough. When the MiGs got to within sixty miles, the AWACS aircraft shut down their radars and dove for the ground to evade the attack. The NATO fighters over Bad Salzdetfurth were on their own. For the first time the Soviets had achieved air superiority over a major battlefield.

Bad Salzdetfurth, Germany

June 29, 1986

The French pilot stared out of his cockpit, shaking his head, teeming with rage. A tragedy was unraveling. A god – Icarus? - was falling from the sky, plummeting toward the Rhine river.

The sky was filled with air-to-air missiles, most of them Soviets. White contrails, followed by flash of light, then black puffes of smoke - and dead pilots, lots of them.

The barrage of F-15 Eagles, the almighty American fighter, had been breached. Two of them had vanished in brownish fireballs. They had been overhelmed. By Mig-23s, a fighter that was, supposedly, a piece of junk.A couple of Mirages had also fallen from the sky.

The AWACS was falling. A host of Soviet missiles had locked on the E-3 turbofans, exploded, and crippled the wing until it detached. He circled over the disaster, until the AWACS impacted the ground in a plume of dark smoke. There was no ejector seat for anybody, because at the beginning the AWACS had been a fucking Boeing 707 airliner. He knew the AWACS crew and operators, all forty of them, were dead. He was incensed.

It shouldn't have happened like this.

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15 minutes earlier

He flew his Mirage F1C-200 past the AWACS, trying to reassure the american crew.

The E-3 Sentry was definitively a strange flying machine; it carrier a large mushroom-shaped antenna on its back, which looked like an UFO flying saucer terrorizing a 707 airliner. Hopefully sooner rather than later the Armée de l'Air will have his own fleet of AWACS... discussions had been ongoing since 1982 with both Boeing and Great Britain, which struggled badly to get its Nimrod AEW off the ground. Saudi Arabia has AWACS. NATO has 18 of them, Great Britain is struggling with the Nimrod AEW - and then my country has zero airborne radar systems !
The Armée de l'Air has lost a lot of time and money discussing all kinds of different AWACS concepts, when the E-3A Sentry was the only viable solution, even if damn expensive.

They were flying 30 000 ft above the Rhine, a pair of E-3s guarded by a bunch of F-15 Eagles and twelve Mirage F1s. He could see the town of Holle and, in the distance, Hanovre. If the land battle east and south of Hanovre was lost, then half of West Germany would fall in Soviet hands. Then the next big river to try and block the Soviet juggernaut would be the Rhine – and all French governments had made clear since the days of De Gaulle, that any Soviet bridgehead menacing France would be obliterated by tactical nuclear weapons. Whatever the ennemy there was no way another Sedan would ever happened. The Force de Frappe had cost France an arm and a leg, but no more Sedan was a serious motivation.

«Two regiments of Mig bandits are coming. Engage» the AWACS told him. He shivered.

Two regiments?

Soviet fighter and assault air regiments organisationally consisted of 4 aviation squadrons of 15 aircraft each, for a total of 63 aircraft on their flight log. Two regiments meant more than a hundred of Migs were attacking. A hundred... it boggled his mind. He saw a large part of the Eagle force, perhaps fifty or more, turning sharply and heading East, in the direction of the menace. The others F-15 closed ranks, creating a barrier between the menace and the vunerable AWACS.

He banked his Mirage and the force of twelve French jets followed the Eagles as fast as their anemic Atar 9 allowed. He dropped his large belly tank and armed the two Super 530F under its wings. He flew high and fast above Alfeld, the ruined german city were most of the furious land battle happened, and pressed eastwards. Swarms of Migs coming full bore from East Germany. There were three large formations stacked between 30 000 and 40 000 feet.

«Get it» his Cyrano IV radar had locked on a Mig-23. The Soviet jet was flying in a straight line, since the Mig-23 manoeuvered somewhat like a Boeing 747, and only in the good days.

He fired a Super 530F and the missile accelerated like a bat outta hell, to mach 4 or more. It covered the distance in the span of forty seconds and splashed the Mig. To the pilot chagrin however he just didn't had enough time to lock and fire the second missile. The Eagles and Mirages were coming face to face with the Floggers at thousand of miles per hour. He was flying at 35 000 ft, targeting the second wave. 5000 ft below, he could see the first wave of Mig-23 being slaughtered by Super 530s and Eagle's Sparrows. The dark blue sky was littered with bone-white missile contrails that all of sudden ended in a host of flashes of light and puffes of black smoke, most of them corresponding to a dead Soviet.

Soon thereafter he got visual contact with a group of Mig-23 flying a hundred feet below his Mirage, and dived, turning sharply to engage them in stern chase. He counted twenty two Migs. He fired its two wingtip mounted, short range Magic 2, killing two more Mig-23. So did his wingmen, and for an instant volleys of Matra missiles flung in every corner of the sky, followed by explosions, lot of them. They had crippled the formation, yet not all Migs had died, and they were now diving and accelerating westwards, their wings swept to the maximum. Now the Mirages were trying to get close from the packs of surviving Mig-23, hoping to kill the survivors with cannon fire. But the Mirage just couldn't follow the Mig brute acceleration. The soviet fighter engine massed 50% more power than his damn Atar. He remember all too well the South African Air Force combat reports: they had flown Mirage F1s against Cuban Mig-23s over Angola, and the Migs just lit their afterburners, completely outpacing the Mirages.

Surely enough, a Mirage 2000 would have an easier time running after the Migs
. But the 37 Mirage 2000s that had entered service since July 1984 were good for nothing. Their RDM radar could only handle Sidewinder-class Magic 2 missiles – no Super 530 yet. RDM had been quickly rebranded «Radar De Merde » by frustrated 2000 pilots. So the 2000 was actually inferior to the F-1C.

It had been a major surprise of the air war – Sparrow-class medium range AAMs had made a big splash, unlike the days of the Vietnam war when Phantoms had to fire three or four Sparrows to get just one working missile. Reliability had vastly improved, and this also applied to French interceptors where the clunky R.530 had been replaced by the Super 530. It also meant that the whole big and expensive force of 348 Belgian, Netherlands, Danish and Norvegian F-16s was good for nothing, since they had no Sparrow capability. So much for the deal of the century, when in 1975 the F-16 had trounced the Mirage F1. But the F-1C-200s, all 81 of them, had the Super 530, making them stronger and on league with F-15 Eagles. How about that.

He shook his head in rage. As the Mig-23s outran his Mirage, he locked his radar on one of them and fired his second, and last, Super 530. Some seconds passed, and then another brownish fireball. Mouche. A handful of similar missiles, perhaps three of them, crippled more Migs. The Mirage force was now short of missiles – all what was left was a pair of DEFA 30 mm guns. He called his wingmen and only nine made it back.

The French formation regrouped and returned to Bad Salzdetfurth. The leader searched for the AWACS and its escort of Eagles... and what he saw chilled him. The mighty Eagles were dogfighting with Mig-23s, the battle raging around the first E-3, which crew was panick stricken. He saw the second AWACS frantically diving toward the Rhine, 30 000 ft below. But an AWACS wasn't a fucking Junker Stuka, diving was not its cup of tea, and the E-3 was descending slowly, much too slowly, and there was no way it could hide into a cloud.

Obviously another wave of Migs had outrun the Mirages, sneaked past the pack of attacking Eagles, and flown to their day targets – the AWACS. He could see sidewinders flying everywhere, but there were also R-23s and R-60s. Although the Mig-23 was a very shitty dogfighter, sheer numbers prevailed over quality, and the Eagles guarding the AWACS were having a very hard time. The main Eagle force was returning, but just like the Mirages, they were short of missiles.

He saw F-15 Eagles tangling with Mig-23s and he and his pack of Mirages entered the fray, firing their canons at Migs, saving a couple of F-15s from destruction.

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He was shocked to see most Eagles fighting with their Vulcan gatling guns; this meant they had exhausted all four Sparrows and all four Sidewinders; just like the Phantom before it, the Eagle was a missile truck. Now all that firepower was gone; everybody had ran out of missiles and the fight continued with guns, the air battle turning into a WWII-style bar brawl, the old days when Spitfires and Hurricanes battled 109s over Britain...

He damaged another Mig with canon fire but its DEFA were running low on ammunition.

At least the Mig-23 wasn't a dogfighter by any way, burdened as it was by its clunky variable geometry wing. As a F-1 driver he had been worried by the existence of the Soviet air force brand new, redoutable fighters – Mig Fulcrums and Sukhoi Flankers. But they had been markedly, and inexplicably, absents. It seemed that a handful of Mig-29s were in Iceland, while small numbers of Flankers were guarding the Soviets own AWACS, the Mainstays that had been slaughtered by stealth F-19As on the first day of the war. Stealth fighters had sneaked between two squadrons of Mig-25PD guarding the Mainstays, hence the Flankers taking the helm with a (supposedly better) radar. The Mig-25 had one hell of a powerful radar, the running joke being it could fry rabbits on the runway, yet it had been beaten by the F-19As. The French pilot had chased Mig-25 once, over the Mediterranean, flying out of Orange air base, south-east France. No Tomcat or Eagle for the Armée de l'Air, so the task of scarying Mig-25R recon birds spying the Marcoule nuclear laboratory had felt to the Super 530 missile. Even if the Mig-25 completely outran any Mirage, he would not be able to outran the missile. He had been surprised no Mig-25 come chasing the AWACS, just Mig-23s.

Whatever, he fired his guns one more time and they fell silent. He was also low on fuel, but the air battle around him wasn't over... now close from the ground the second AWACS warned of one last wave of '23s coming in their direction. The Eagles and Mirages regrouped and tried to stop it, but they had no armement left. The horrified French pilot watched missile contrails stretching East to West. The Mirages, Eagles and the first AWACS dived to the ground and security – too late. Swarms of missiles swept three Eagles from the sky, and also a couple of Mirages. More missiles come, filling the sky, until the unthinkable happened – six of them locked on that huge, vulnerable target, the AWACS, and blown its left engines and left wing into smithereens. The AWACS went into a violent spin and was ripped appart in midair, the debris splashing into the Rhine.

Now he understood how his fellow Crusader pilots had felt after the Foch had been blown by the damn Soviets.

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The MiGs succeeded in killing one of the AWACS aircraft and three Eagle fighters, at the price of nineteen of their own, in a furious air battle that lasted fifteen minutes. The surviving AWACS was back at altitude now, eighty miles behind the Rhein, and its radar operators were working to reestablish control of the air battle over central Germany as the MiGs ran for home through a cloud of NATO surface-to-air missiles. At murderous cost they had accomplished a mission for which they had not even been briefed.
 
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So what wil be the lessons learned for NATO (and the French)?

Invest in a decent fighter radar, a new twin-engined fighter/interceptor, a long-ranged and agile AAM (think AIM-152 and Meteor) and maybe a handful of short-ranged AAMs as last-ditch defence for an AWACS.
Helm-mounted gun/missile sights would also be a good idea.
 
Later in Red Storm rising when they fight for Iceland it seems that HMS Illustrious is also hit by a missile, courtesy of a Charlie cruise missile submarine.

I'd be interested to find out what happened to the Illustrious.

I'd need to re-read the book, however as far as I know Lusty survived.
 
Love this so far. I'd like to see things from the political side as well as military, with names for some Politburo members not named in the book, and other leaders from other countries.
 
I'd need to re-read the book, however as far as I know Lusty survived.

It was an Oscar, it hit Illustrious in the bows. No mention of the damage except a comment immediately afterwards about preparing to conduct rescue operations.
 
It was an Oscar, it hit Illustrious in the bows. No mention of the damage except a comment immediately afterwards about preparing to conduct rescue operations.

It didn't sink though, as the book also mentions smoke rising from Illustrious later on in the chapter.
 
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