Red Rose of France

Here is the sketch of the timeline

The Red Rose of France
John of Gaunt does not die in 1399 and Henry Bolingbroke does not leave Paris and Richard II and Isabella has a daughter named Marie who was born in 1406 who was betrothed and sent to the future King of Scotland, James I and Roger Mortimer dies because of an Irish rebellion.
In the mean time Ladislao Durazzo marries Valentina Visconti as his second wife which unites Naples and Milan and On 1399 and have a son named Emanuele, Jadwiga of Poland gave birth to a daughter, baptised Elizabeth Bonifacia both lived but Jadawiga became barren.

Henry of Bolingbroke has a son with Jeanne of Navarre named Arthur in 1403 and later another daughter was born named Marie.

Henry of Bolingbroke had Arthur marry Eleanor of Aragon, the daughter of Ferdinand I of Aragon this was the start of the Lancaster interests in spain and had a son named Edward.
In the same time Emanuele marries Marie of Anjou which caused peace between the Durazzo and the Valois-Anjou line.

After Richard II dies in 1420 after now that the Lancasters lost England they are now only a french faction and because of this they need to have another source of influence..

Edmund Mortimer becomes the King but dies and Henry of Bolingbroke’s son was sent to France, Edmund Mortimer dies heirless bacause he was assasinated by James I of Scotland and Henry, the son of Henry BolingJames I and Marie of Britain have two children named Marie and Edward.

Henry, the son of Henry Bolingbroke marries Elizabeth Bonifacia of Poland-Lithunia which starts the beginning of the Plantagenet dynasty of Poland so Aquitaine and the claim to French and English thrones went to Arthur since Arthur is not a threat the lands of Plantagenets in Aquitaine in the treaty of Bretigny was returned to him, Arthur was only considered to be the Duke of Aquitaine earlier with him as the vassal and his brother inheriting both the claim to England and France with him only subordinate to his brother..

Marie Plantagenet and Charles VII marry with Calais as her own dowry have two sons Louis and Henry.

Philip the good of Burgundy is married to Marie, the daughter of James I in 1421.
In the mean time Rene of Anjou will be claiming the Aragonese throne and install his son, John as the Prince of Girona in Aragon in 1460.

Seeing that Rene of Anjou will be a hindrance in his claims to the throne of Naples, Charles VII will be planning to start a war against Rene of Anjou.

Edward marries Margaret of Anjou and they have two sons Edward and Henry, Henry marries Isabella of Castille and Edward marries Catherine of Foix and Francis Phoebus lives to be the count of Foix and Bearn, King of Navarre and Andorra but dies of a sickness and Edward inherits Navarre and the realms of Francis Phoebus.

Rene of Anjou and his son Jean declares war on France knowing about the plans of Charles VII and with the help of HRE, Rene of Anjou and Ladislao of Durazzo deployed a thousand of people in the battle field as Charles VII, Charles VII is defeated in this battle which causes a shame to France which causes the parts of HRE that were stolen by France to come back to HRE and some parts of Languedoc which are Forez, Gevaudan and Montpeiller were gained to HRE which becomes parts of HRE and becomes a part of the new Duchy of Provence because of what he did, his Anjou possesion was confiscated by Charles VII and Rene decided to give the crown of aragon to Henry, his own grandson to Margaret of Anjou in 1470 .

I will post again once the timeline is completely finished.
 
A couple of questions, if I may?

Edmund Mortimer becomes the King but dies and Henry of Bolingbroke’s son was sent to France, Edmund Mortimer dies heirless bacause he was assasinated by James I of Scotland and Henry, the son of Henry BolingJames I and Marie of Britain have two children named Marie and Edward.

This paragraph gets me somewhat. For a start, why didn't Richard II's daughter "Marie" inherit England? I know that female monarchs in this era are disliked and thought incompetent, but Marie would still be crowned, even if she did then suffer a revolt from the Mortimers. If you wanted the Mortimers to inherit, why give Richard a daughter in the first place?

Also I just can't get my head around James I of Scotland and Henry assassinating the King of England. I just can't see it happening.

Marie wouldn't be "Marie of Britain" by the way. There is no such thing as "Britain". "Great Britain" exists, but GB is the name of an island, not a country. The British Isles exist, and are different from GB, but they still are not a country. She should be Marie of England, surely?

Marie Plantagenet and Charles VII marry with Calais as her own dowry have two sons Louis and Henry.

Calais was an absolutely vital strategic port for the English. There is no way they would give it away as a dowry. They might as well sell Cornwall as give away Calais to the French.
 
A couple of questions, if I may?



This paragraph gets me somewhat. For a start, why didn't Richard II's daughter "Marie" inherit England? I know that female monarchs in this era are disliked and thought incompetent, but Marie would still be crowned, even if she did then suffer a revolt from the Mortimers. If you wanted the Mortimers to inherit, why give Richard a daughter in the first place?

Also I just can't get my head around James I of Scotland and Henry assassinating the King of England. I just can't see it happening.

Marie wouldn't be "Marie of Britain" by the way. There is no such thing as "Britain". "Great Britain" exists, but GB is the name of an island, not a country. The British Isles exist, and are different from GB, but they still are not a country. She should be Marie of England, surely?
I agree on that I will revise the timeline because the timeline is not finished.

Calais was an absolutely vital strategic port for the English. There is no way they would give it away as a dowry. They might as well sell Cornwall as give away Calais to the French.
Calais is no longer English because the Lancasters were driven out of France and Lancasters are French vassals
 
The Red Rose of France
John of Gaunt does not die in 1399 and Henry Bolingbroke does not leave Paris and Richard II and Isabella has a daughter named Marie who was born in January 5 1406 who was betrothed and sent to the future King of Scotland, James I and Roger Mortimer dies because of an Irish rebellion.
In the mean time Ladislao Durazzo marries Valentina Visconti on May 5, 1399 as his second wife which unites Naples and Milan and On February 12, 1400, they have a son named Emanuele, Jadwiga of Poland gave birth to a daughter, baptised Elizabeth Bonifacia both lived but Jadawiga became barren.

Henry of Bolingbroke has a son with Jeanne of Navarre named Arthur born in October 1, 1403 and later another daughter was born named Marie born in November 6 1405, .

Henry of Bolingbroke had Arthur marry Eleanor of Aragon, the daughter of Ferdinand I of Aragon this was the start of the Lancaster interests in spain and had a son named Edward.
In the same time Emanuele marries Marie of Anjou which caused peace between the Durazzo and the Valois-Anjou line.

John of Gaunt dies of an unknown sickness in December 1,1410

René of Anjou being known as the Count of Guise. By his marriage treaty (1419) with Isabella, elder daughter of Charles II, Duke of Lorraine, he became heir to the Duchy of Bar, which was claimed as the inheritance of his mother Yolande, and, in right of his wife, heir to the Duchy of Lorraine.

After Richard II dies in 1420 after now that the Lancasters lost England they are now only a french faction and because of this they need to have another source of influence..

Henry of Bolingbroke’s son was sent to France, and James I becomes the King of England on the right of his wife, they were married on January 5, 1420 which causes the loss of the remaining French lands because they lost the Angevin claim to the French throne, James I and Marie of England and Scotland have two children named Marie born in January 5, 1421 and Edward born in December 1, 1421.

Henry of Bolingbroke finally dies because of an unknown sickness sickness in January 5,1420.

Henry, the son of Henry Bolingbroke marries Elizabeth Bonifacia of Poland-Lithunia which starts the beginning of the Plantagenet dynasty of Poland so Aquitaine and the claim to French and English thrones went to Arthur since Arthur is not a threat the lands of Plantagenets in Aquitaine in the treaty of Bretigny was returned to him, Arthur was only considered to be the Duke of Aquitaine earlier with him as the vassal and his brother inheriting both the claim to England and France with him only subordinate to his brother..

Marie Plantagenet and Charles VII marry with Calais in January 5, 1421 as her own dowry have two sons Louis born in January 6, 1422 and Henry born in October 8, 1423.

Philip the Good was married in Bruges on January 7, 1430 to Isabella of Portugal , daughter of John I of Portugal and Philippa of Lancaster, produced three sons, Antoine born in September 30, 1430,Joseph born in April 24, 1432, Charles born in November 10, 1433.
Ladislao of Durazzo finally integrates Milan and Naples out of his marriage with Valentina Visconti which causes the Pope to get worried about the Papal state in January 13 1430 which causes the pope to convince Charles VI to have France war with Milan-Naples but the war ended in the favor of Milan-Naples in the mean time Emanuele of Durrazo marries Marie of Anjou in September 4, 1430, and they sign an alliance and the withdrawal of the claims of the Valois-Anjou in Naples.
another sketch, I will create a more polished version with maps..
 
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Calais is no longer English because the Lancasters were driven out of France and Lancasters are French vassals

There's only two ways it could go: Calais is owned by the King of England or the King of France. There's no way that the Lancastrians could hold it on their own.
 
There's only two ways it could go: Calais is owned by the King of England or the King of France. There's no way that the Lancastrians could hold it on their own.

Okay, thanks I will use the marriage for the Lancastrians to give up claims to Calais instead.
 
There's only two ways it could go: Calais is owned by the King of England or the King of France. There's no way that the Lancastrians could hold it on their own.
Where does the Channel Islands should go since the United Great Britain did gave up their claim from any lands in France.
 
Here is the sketch of Eastern side of the Timeline, Red Rose of France.

Lancastrian B

Zheng He continues his journeys circumnavigating the world and finally finds the Americas in 1450, just before he dies, his comrades tell it to the Emperor that he finally found a new and uncharted land.

Sultan Bolkiah was the fifth Sultan of Brunei. He ascended the throne of Brunei upon the abdication of his father, Sultan Sulaiman. He ruled Brunei from 1485 to 1524. His reign was known as the Golden Age because Brunei became the superpower of the Malay archipelago. Under Sultan Bolkiah, Brunei prospered further, but he was still unsatisfied with Brunei's progress and ordered all his chiefs and ministers to seek new ideas to develop Brunei further. He frequently travelled abroad to broaden his outlook and increase his knowledge for the development of his country. The new ideas he brought back to Brunei were ordered to be studied in detail and pursued for implementation for the benefit of his people and country.

The tomb of Sultan Bolkiah, near Kota Batu, Brunei. (not to be confused with Cotabato in the Philippines).

Sultan Bolkiah's defeat over Sulu and Seludong (modern day Manila) made him a broken man.

After his death, Sultan Bolkiah (Bulkieau) was succeeded by his son, Abdul Kahar. He was buried in Kota Batu with his wife, Princess Lela Mechanai.

Lakan Gambang changes the Capital of his kingdom to Malolos after he defeats Sultan Bolkiah of Borneo and had his Daughter, Dayang Kaylangitan/ Banua marry into the ruling clian of Malolos, Brunei was able to get the southern part of the Island of Manila while the northern part became ruled by the house of Malolos the Gat Salihan/ Gachalian family, he dies after he married his daughter to the Gatsalihan clan but he seen the birth of his grandson named Krishna.
 
Red Rose of France
Plantagenets in Poland.
Plantagenet Survival
Joan of Beaufort, sister of Henry Bolingbroke by the arrangement and bethrotal by Henry Bolingbroke marries Louis Valois, duke of Orleans in September 1395, they had a child, Louis who was born in September 2,1396.

Louis II of Anjou married Yolande of Aragon (1384–1443) in Arles in 1400, giving him a possibility of inheriting the throne of Aragon through her right. Her father, King John I of Aragon had died in 1396, and her uncle king Martin I of Aragon died in 1410, their children are: Louis(Louis III) born in September 25, 1403, René born in January 16, 1409, Marie of Anjou born in 14 October 1404, Yolande born in June 17,1412, , Charles of Le Maine born in December 5, 1414,

John of Gaunt does not die in 1399 and Henry Bolingbroke does not leave Paris and Richard II and Isabella has a daughter named Marie who was born in January 5 1406 who was betrothed and sent to the future King of Scotland, James I and Roger Mortimer dies because of an Irish rebellion.
In the mean time Ladislao Durazzo marries Valentina Visconti on May 5, 1395 as his second wife and On February 12, 1400, they have a son named Emanuele, Jadwiga of Poland gave birth to a daughter, baptised Elizabeth Bonifacia both lived but Jadawiga became barren.

Henry of Bolingbroke has a son with Jeanne of Navarre named Arthur born in October 1, 1403 and later another daughter was born named Marie born in November 6 1405.

John of Gaunt dies of an unknown sickness in December 1,1410

After Richard II dies in 1420 after now that the Lancasters lost England they are now only a french faction and because of this they need to have another source of influence..

Henry of Bolingbroke’s son goes back to France in 1415, Henry of Bolingbroke had Henry marry Catherine of Valois, the sister of the dauphin and had a son named Edward born in February 6, 1420.
In the same time Emanuele marries Marie of Anjou on October 1, 1423 which caused peace between the Durazzo and the Valois-Anjou line and they have two children, Maria born on September 6, 1424 and Riccardo born on April 17, 1428. , and James I becomes the King of England on the right of his wife, they were married on January 5, 1420, which causes the loss of the remaining French lands because they decided against the Angevin claim to the French throne which was abandoned only the Lancasters maintain the clam, James I and Marie of England and Scotland have two children named Marie born in January 5, 1421 and Edward born in December 1, 1421 and a daughter named Margareth in 1425.

Henry of Bolingbroke finally dies because of an unknown sickness sickness in January 5,1420.

Arthur, the son of Henry Bolingbroke marries Elizabeth Bonifacia of Poland-Lithunia in 1420, the marriage was arranged in order to strengthen the ties between Poland, HRE and the Plantagenets which starts the beginning of the Plantagenet dynasty of Poland since Henry is not a threat the lands of Plantagenets were returned to the Plantagenets in the treaty of Bretigny was returned to the Plantagenets.


On July 5, 1421, Louis III of Anjou and Eleanor of Aragon are married and have two Children, Philip born on April 6, 1422 and Eleanor of Anjou born on May 6, 1423.


Elizabeth and Arthur of Poland had a child named Philip who was born on August 15, 1421 and another named Mary who was born on January 2, 1423.

Marie Plantagenet and Charles VII marry with Calais, Ponthieu and the claims for the Channel Islands as her dowry in January 5, 1421 have two sons Louis born in January 6, 1422 and Henry born in October 8, 1423 and a daughter named Beatrice born on March 4, 1424.



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Note:The Lancastrian claims to the Channel Islands and Calais and Ponthieu had been given to the crown of France as a dowry.

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Zheng HE Discovers Americas
Between 1405 and 1433, the Ming government sponsored a series of seven naval expeditions. The Yongle emperor designed them to establish a Chinese presence, impose imperial control over trade, impress foreign peoples in the Indian Ocean basin and extend the empire's tributary system. The voyages also presented an opportunity to seek out Zhu Yunwen possibly the "largest scale manhunt on water in the history of China".
Zheng He was placed as the admiral in control of the huge fleet and armed forces that undertook these expeditions. Wang Jinghong was appointed his second in command. Zheng He's first voyage consisted of a fleet of 317 ships holding almost 28,000 crewmen (each ship housing up to 500 men).
Zheng He's fleets visited Arabia, Brunei, East Africa, India, Malay Archipelago and Thailand (at the time called Siam), dispensing and receiving goods along the way. Zheng He presented gifts of gold, silver, porcelain and silk; in return, China received such novelties as ostriches, zebras, camels, ivory and giraffes.
It is important to note that while the scale of Zheng He's fleet was unprecedented (compared to previous voyages from China to the east Indian Ocean), the routes were not. Sea-based trade links had existed between China and Arabian peninsula since the Han Dynasty (there being trade with the Roman Empire at that time.) During the Three Kingdoms, the king of Wu sent a diplomatic mission along the coast of Asia, reaching as far as the Eastern Roman Empire. During the Song Dynasty, there was large scale maritime trade from China reaching as far as the Arabian peninsula and East Africa. In short, Zheng He's fleet was following long-established, well-mapped routes.
Zheng He generally sought to attain his goals through diplomacy, and his large army awed most would-be enemies into submission.[citation needed] But a contemporary reported that Zheng He "walked like a tiger" and did not shrink from violence when he considered it necessary to impress foreign peoples with China's military might. He ruthlessly suppressed pirates who had long plagued Chinese and southeast Asian waters. He also waged a land war against the Kingdom of Kotte in Ceylon, and he made displays of military force when local officials threatened his fleet in Arabia and East Africa. From his fourth voyage, he brought envoys from thirty states who traveled to China and paid their respects at the Ming court.
In 1424, the Yongle Emperor died. His successor, the Hongxi Emperor (reigned 1424–1425), decided to stop the voyages during his short reign. Zheng He made one more voyage under the Xuande Emperor (reigned 1426–1435), At the last time before Zheng He died he travelled north to explore Sakhalin and sees Alaska and Kamchatka and he explored Alaska where he dies and his assistants told that to the Emperor that they saw a new distant land.
Bolkiah defeated

Bolkiah and his Bornean forces were defeated and kicked from the Island of Manila, and the bloody religious wars against muslims in the Island of Manila is brewing,Dayang Kaylangitan was married into one of the Noble families in the Island of Manila, Lakan Gambang sires a male heir named Jayadewa and because of this the House of Tondo is continued and Lakan Gambang favors Buddhism and not Islam and because of this Islam was frowned upon and the community leaders and majority of the Nobility were against the Islam thus Lakan Gambang declares a war against Mohammedism which he thinks is a religion that will be used by Borneo to gain some control of his dominion, he also orders for the Muslim missionaries to leave his Island alone which start the wars of Religion.
And also because of the war of religion the Batangas area was starting resettled by Buddhists from the North and the muslims expelled in 1515 because they were treated as traitors to their own country thus the Muslims were starting to be forced to emigrate to Borneo.
The forces of Abdul Kahar invaded Bicol, Mindoro, Kalamian, Cavite and Batangas with the displaced muslims in the army in 1520.
The Capital was moved further north to the present day Malolos because of this the center of Power was shifted northwards and Jayadewa succeeds to the throne in the Island of Manila.


I will add these both in a more completed chapter of Eastern Part of Red Rose of France.
 
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Where does the Channel Islands should go since the United Great Britain did gave up their claim from any lands in France.

The Channel Islands became the personal possession of the King of England when they were separated from Normandy. Whoever was King of England would automatically become seigneur of Guernsey and Jersey. A rival could try to take them if they wanted but it would be futile - the islands are impossible to defend when so close to England, and any pretender to the throne of England who goes to Guernsey or Jersey is simply wasting his strength. If you don't have the army to march on England, you wouldn't try to hold the Channel Islands. The Channel Islands' fate is basically tied to that of England.
 
The Channel Islands became the personal possession of the King of England when they were separated from Normandy. Whoever was King of England would automatically become seigneur of Guernsey and Jersey. A rival could try to take them if they wanted but it would be futile - the islands are impossible to defend when so close to England, and any pretender to the throne of England who goes to Guernsey or Jersey is simply wasting his strength. If you don't have the army to march on England, you wouldn't try to hold the Channel Islands. The Channel Islands' fate is basically tied to that of England.


So It is impossible for it to become a part of a French Fief dominion or under French rule?
 
So It is impossible for it to become a part of a French Fief dominion or under French rule?

It could become French, sure, if they just attack the islands. It likely wouldn't be a fief though, it would just be annexed back to Normandy and become part of the royal demesne. My point really was that there would be no way the Lancastrians could rule it on its own as an independent state - not even if they ruled Aquitaine too. It would just be too hard to defend without a big country nearby to reinforce from.

By the way, I can't seem to load your pictures. I can see the thumbnails in this thread, but clicking them results in a 404 error. Could you perhaps upload to another website?
 
It could become French, sure, if they just attack the islands. It likely wouldn't be a fief though, it would just be annexed back to Normandy and become part of the royal demesne. My point really was that there would be no way the Lancastrians could rule it on its own as an independent state - not even if they ruled Aquitaine too. It would just be too hard to defend without a big country nearby to reinforce from.

By the way, I can't seem to load your pictures. I can see the thumbnails in this thread, but clicking them results in a 404 error. Could you perhaps upload to another website?

Fixed it..thanks..
 
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United Italy? Well, Almost
Yolande of Anjou married King Edward of Portugal on 22 September 1428. They had nine children, of whom five survived to adulthood.
When her husband died on 13 September 1438, she was appointed as regent of Portugal in his will, which was confirmed by the cortes. However, she was inexperienced and, as an Aragonese, unpopular with the people, who preferred the late king's brother Infante Peter, Duke of Coimbra. The confirmation of her regency therefore caused a riot in Lisbon. The riot was suppressed by her brother Count John of Barcelona. Her children with Edward are Prince John born on October 1429 Princess Philippa born on 27 November 1430 Afonso V of Portugal born on 15 January 1432, Princess Maria born on 7 December 1432 , Infante Ferdinand born on 17 November 1433, Eleanor born on 18 September 1434 who later married Frederick III, on Holy Roman Emperor, Prince Edward born on 12 July 1435, Catherine born on 26 November 1436, Joan born on 31 March 1439.

Louis, son of Joan of Beaufort and Louis Valois of Orleans married Margareth of Cleves in December 5, 1429 and had two children, Marie d'Orléans born at 19 December 1433, Louis of Orleans born at July 1, 1435

Ladislao of Durazzo finally inherits both Milan and Naples out of his marriage with Valentina Visconti after Filippo Maria died which causes the Pope to get worried about the Papal state in January 13 1430 which causes the pope to convince Charles VI to have France war with Milan-Naples but the war ended in the favor of Milan-Naples in the mean time Emanuele of Durrazo marries Eleanor of Anjou in September 4, 1430, and they sign an alliance and the withdrawal of the claims of the Valois-Anjou in Naples.

Emanuele of Durrazo and Eleanor of Anjou have a son named Filippo born on January 5, 1432.

Arthur Plantagenet and Elizabeth-Bonifacia makes reforms in Poland-Lithunia including a Polish version of Magna-Carta in 1430 after their marriage.

Beatrice, countess of Arundel, half sister of Edward of Portugal marries Charles of LeMane after they had been matched by Yolande of Anjou in January 7, 1430 which starts the Valois-Avis clan at their son Louis born on October 15, 1431.
René being known as the Count of Guise. By his marriage treaty (1419) with Isabella, elder daughter of Charles II, Duke of Lorraine, he became heir to the Duchy of Bar, which was claimed as the inheritance of his mother Yolande, and, in right of his wife, heir to the Duchy of Lorraine, how ever they only have a daughter born on January 1, 1430 named Margareth who marries Frederick the Count of Vaudemont.

John II of Castille marries Marie of Scotland and England in October 5, 1430, they have daughter named Carlota born on October 4, 1442, Philip the good marries Margareth of Scotland and England in October 6, 1440 and Edward Plantagenet of Aquitaine marries Infanta Catherine of Portugal in October 10, 1440 and they have a son named Philip born on April 2, 1441 and another son named Arthur born, Arthur was betrothed to Carlota in 1443.



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The Rise of Charles the Bold.

Philip of Burgundy thus sent a delegation, led by his chief counsellor, the Seigneur de Roubaix, from Sluys on 19 October 1428 which, after calling at Sandwich until 2 December and acquiring two more ships, arrived at Lisbon on 16 December. The delegation waited a further month, whilst Isabel's father and brothers met at Aviz to discuss the matter; on 19 January, a formal request for the Infanta's hand was made by the Burgundians, and discussions between the two parties began. The Portuguese agreeing to the marriage, messengers were sent on 2 February 1429 to receive the Duke of Burgundy's formal response, which was signed on 5 May and received by the Portuguese on 4 June. After further minor matters, the marriage contract was drawn up, and Isabella, still in Portugal, was married to Philip the Good by proxy — Roubaix acting as groom — on 24 July 1429.

Despite her marriage, the new Duchess did not immediately leave Portugal for another 8 weeks; rather, whilst the weather swung between sun and storms, and her father had a fleet and trousseau prepared for his daughter, she enjoyed a continued period of feasts, tournaments, plays, and festivals, all put on by the court and the people in mourning for the loss of their only Infanta, and happiness at her future as Duchess of Burgundy. On 19 October 1429, with a flotilla of around 20 ships prepared, Isabella — accompanied by almost 2000 Portuguese — left Portugal forever. After a rough journey of eleven weeks, which saw the loss of several ships and much of her bridal trousseau, the convoy reached Sluys on 25 December 1429, the Duchess disembarking the following day (having been forced through illness and apprehension to rest for the remainder of Christmas Day). She and Philip celebrated their formal religious marriage two weeks later, on 7 January, and the marriage was consummated shortly afterwards.

Charles the Bold was born in Dijon, the son of Philip the Good and Isabel of Portugal. In his father's lifetime (1433–1467) he bore the title of Count of Charolais; afterwards, he assumed all of his father's titles, including that of "Grand Duke of the West". He was also made a Knight of the Golden Fleece just twenty days after his birth, being invested by Charles I, Count of Nevers and the seigneur de Croÿ.
 
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