Realistically, How Long Can the Raj Last?

Khanzeer

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Are you serious?

Britain enforced the caste system they exploited it. So apartheid is more humane for india than indians ruling themselves?

Seriously you think some white supremacy and european oppression was the more the humane thing for india? First you suggest having the colonist breed there way to victory creating a loyal class and to then suppress the natives. This sounds like some next level colonialism and imperialism being said here.
That's exactly what the mughals were trying to do, They were smarter than the other Turkic and Afghani lords before them

You are totally mis reading the post I stay that it is more humane when the British treat the Indians as equals That's the only way the racies can mingle and produce are another caste if you may of people who are more likely to rule this is nothing unique in human history
White supremacist was the english policy in the OTL which limited intermarriage with locals and created a ruling caste of Indians who were englishmen culturally but indian in blood.
What I propose is more humane as this way English will over decades completely assimilate in india just like mughals did
 
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You are totally mis reading the post I stay that it is more humane when the British treat the Indians as equals That's the only way the racies can mingle and produce are another caste if you may of people who are more likely to rule this is nothing unique in human history
White supremacist was the english policy in the OTL which limited intermarriage with locals and created a ruling caste of Indians who were englishmen culturally but indian in blood.
What I propose is more humane as this way English will over decades completely assimilate in india just like mughals did
they will never assimilate or be equals as britain will never see them as equal humans they were a colony.
So what are you saying indians are naturally savage? and they must be civilised by english and must adopt the west?

All you are saying is we need to wipe out the native population by breeding them into submission.
 

Khanzeer

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they will never assimilate or be equals as britain will never see them as equal humans they were a colony.
So what are you saying indians are naturally savage? and they must be civilised by english and must adopt the west?

All you are saying is we need to wipe out the native population by breeding them into submission.
You are being unnecessarily provocative
All conquerors in history esp india Have tried to marry within the locals so as to solidify their claim to power this is not unique and if the British had practiced this they Way and have considered India their home and not as a colony it be to looted and plundered. They would have been part of the cultural fabric like mughals became . that's what I was saying this does not in any way resemble this wild accusation that you are trying to make
 
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Khanzeer

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Don't do apologetics for colonial racism. Assuming anything that divides and abuses people is "humane", is a losing bet.
Far from it my friend dont even get me started on the genocidal food policies of british right upto 1943
But ruling classes of invaders exploting differences of locals is not limited to British like I said Turks and Afghans before mughals maintained a colonial hold on the Indian masses even babur in his memoirs describe local Indians disparagingly
And far from dividing I'm promoting English become more indian overtime by intermarriage just like later mughals did even though at first they came to loot and plunder too
 
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Whenever this question comes up, I am forced to ask how 'Raj' is defined.

Appointees from London wielding their absolute power to loot anything that may be of value from the subcontinent and shoot 'wogs' for looking at a White Man wrong? More than a little untenable especially once word of how things are handled in Britain spreads.

Toothless viceroys (likely rotated among major confessional groups) being duly appointed by a Windsor Padishah on the "advice" of a mostly popularly elected legislature? That could easily run to this day, especially if it is seen as a patch to avoid Hindu/Muslim squabbles and/or keep a comparatively loose federal state together.

All this said, @Khanzeer's question of how to get a wave of Britons moving in and going native in the manner of the Mughals before them is both a valid and interesting one.
 

CalBear

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The overall temperature in this thread needs to come down by about 20 degrees and the number of "You" statements needs to drop to zero.

Y'all need to discuss this, not fight about it. If you can not do that, walk away.

Consider this a general warning to the entire thread.

Be unfortunate if a Mod has to come back in here.
 

MatthewB

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With no First or Second World War, Britain remains in control of Malaya, Singapore, Burma and India. I suppose Sarawak will continue its autonomous White Raj.
 
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