Questions re Rupert of the Rhine

What of total number of surviving children of Rupert & Charlotte de Dunois? Wittelsbachs were quite explosive breeders (look at Karl Ludwig's issue with Louise von Degenfeld, rivalring the bunch of their Neuburg cousins in numbers), but Charlotte was of somewhat fragile constitution (dying in OTL of infection as a teenager), and other than her, only two of her brothers lived to adulthood.
I think two to three is plausible number - Charles Robert (b.1665), a girl named Anne Elisabeth (because Charlotte Elisabeth/Elisabeth Charlotte seems to be overused in the family) (b. 1667, presumptive bride for Danish Crown Prince Frederick, OTL Frederick IV) and??? Maybe another boy, born circa 1669-1670 (Henry Maurice/Henry Louis if Charlotte gets naming rights)???
 
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I like that. I think that Anne Elisabeth as bride for Frederick IV would be good, and Henry Maurice in 1670 also makes sense to me.

Could Henry Maurice be career diplomat/.
 
I think that if we decided Charles would take after his uncle/namesake Karl Ludwig in inclinations, being more diplomatic, Henry would be more true to his father's legacy - maybe with talents in naval area to split the gifts among siblings? There doesn't seem to be anyone with naval inclinations among (abeit bastard) offspring of Charles II/Duke of York, expect for maybe shortlived Duke of Grafton, so that fills the niche.

Also, after thinking, I thought that the girl would be not Anne Elisabeth, but Louise Charlotte - reverse of mother's name (Charlotte Louise), and a way to show respect to Rupert's favorite sister - Louise Hollandine of Palatinate, who may even be the girl's godmother.
 
I think that if we decided Charles would take after his uncle/namesake Karl Ludwig in inclinations, being more diplomatic, Henry would be more true to his father's legacy - maybe with talents in naval area to split the gifts among siblings? There doesn't seem to be anyone with naval inclinations among (abeit bastard) offspring of Charles II/Duke of York, expect for maybe shortlived Duke of Grafton, so that fills the niche.

Also, after thinking, I thought that the girl would be not Anne Elisabeth, but Louise Charlotte - reverse of mother's name (Charlotte Louise), and a way to show respect to Rupert's favorite sister - Louise Hollandine of Palatinate, who may even be the girl's godmother.

Alrighty, I like that. I can see Henry getting involved in naval engagements during the War of Spanish Succession-should that happen- and perhaps rising up through the ranks in Britain
 
War of Spanish Succession is likely to happen, as there is nothing to buttefly this TTL.

While Henry, like his father, may dislike intrigues, he may serve as his brother's "trusted man on ground" when Charles has to leave for Palatinate. In fact I'm interested in the brotherly dynamics that in some way mirrors the one between Karl Ludwig and Rupert, but is different at the same time, as the brothers have shared childhood and little to no sibling rivalry, complementing each other instead of antagonizing.
 
War of Spanish Succession is likely to happen, as there is nothing to buttefly this TTL.

While Henry, like his father, may dislike intrigues, he may serve as his brother's "trusted man on ground" when Charles has to leave for Palatinate. In fact I'm interested in the brotherly dynamics that in some way mirrors the one between Karl Ludwig and Rupert, but is different at the same time, as the brothers have shared childhood and little to no sibling rivalry, complementing each other instead of antagonizing.

Oh this will be good to see as well, I can definitely see Henry being the ear to the ground, and a bit of a womaniser as well, and gaining info that way. Would he be given a title as well?
 
Well, as any male legit Wittelsbach, he is "Prince Palatine, Count Palatine of the Rhine and Duke in Bavaria" since birth, but maybe he can get Principality of Neuchatel from his mother's side (if it doesn't get sold to Louis XIV as a way of resolving Palatinate succession crisis). Definitely will be offered an appanage in Palatinate upon his brother's ascension to Electorship. British titles - highly unlikely, unless he happens to marry a rich British heiress (rich enough to buy some Imperial title and bypass the "morganatic" aspect of marriage, as Henry is still a Prince of Empire).
 
Well, as any male legit Wittelsbach, he is "Prince Palatine, Count Palatine of the Rhine and Duke in Bavaria" since birth, but maybe he can get Principality of Neuchatel from his mother's side (if it doesn't get sold to Louis XIV as a way of resolving Palatinate succession crisis). Definitely will be offered an appanage in Palatinate upon his brother's ascension to Electorship. British titles - highly unlikely, unless he happens to marry a rich British heiress (rich enough to buy some Imperial title and bypass the "morganatic" aspect of marriage, as Henry is still a Prince of Empire).

Hmm this is very true, I wonder who Henry would marry in this instance then, being Prince of Empire
 
From the Brits - there is Elisabeth Percy, just in the right age bracket, 2 to 3 years older, maybe. Perks include being generally the richest British heiress of generation, and claims to Dukedom of Northumberland.

From abroad - I honestly don't know, as the Palatine brothers may use this to build a network of Protestant alliances agaist Louis. So, the leading candidate would likely be this lady, to maintain Palatinate/Brandenburg alliance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Amalie_of_Brandenburg
 
From the Brits - there is Elisabeth Percy, just in the right age bracket, 2 to 3 years older, maybe. Perks include being generally the richest British heiress of generation, and claims to Dukedom of Northumberland.

From abroad - I honestly don't know, as the Palatine brothers may use this to build a network of Protestant alliances agaist Louis. So, the leading candidate would likely be this lady, to maintain Palatinate/Brandenburg alliance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Amalie_of_Brandenburg

Hmm interesting Elisabeth Percy, or Marie would be good for me. I think Marie might trump Elisabeth depending on when the marriage is happening
 
To prevent this nonsense from getting elephant-sized - 1685-1686 will be spent touring the lands and trying to fix the mess Karl II left to his cousin, but circa 1687 the rumors of James' religious... eccentricity will be getting out of hands, and Charles, in his capacity as British peer (2nd Duke of Cumberland), would likely go and investigate the matter, and try to somehow talk some sense in his father-in-law.
Anne and Karl Ludwig would likely be left in Palatinate as regents.
 
To prevent this nonsense from getting elephant-sized - 1685-1686 will be spent touring the lands and trying to fix the mess Karl II left to his cousin, but circa 1687 the rumors of James' religious... eccentricity will be getting out of hands, and Charles, in his capacity as British peer (2nd Duke of Cumberland), would likely go and investigate the matter, and try to somehow talk some sense in his father-in-law.
Anne and Karl Ludwig would likely be left in Palatinate as regents.

OOOh interesting, do you think he might be able to suggest methods to get things more palatable?
 
King Rupert I sounds like a sequel to Ralf I, but it’s an interesting concept.

As for a wife, could I suggest Lady Mary Villiers (1622–1685), the daughter of the George Villiers, 1st Duke of Buckingham and Katherine Manners, 19th Baroness de Ros. This would be a good link for the royal family as Baroness Manners was at the time known as the richest woman in Britain, apart from royalty. While George is a favourite of King James I and rumoured to be the kings lover.
 
Mary and Rupert were no longer in love by 1664:
Rupert died, to all appearance, unmarried, but he left two children, a son and a daughter. More than once he had seriously contemplated matrimony. In 1653 it had been rumoured that he was about to wed his cousin Mary, the Princess Royal, widow of the Prince of Orange.[40] In 1664 he made proposals for a Royal lady of France, but the said lady objected that he had been "too long and too deeply attached to a certain Duchess."[41] That obstacle was removed in the same year by the Duchess of Richmond's clandestine love-match with Thomas Howard; but the French lady was long in coming to a decision, and in the meantime the young Francesca Bard crossed Rupert's path.
From the book by Eve Scott.
It was estimated that said French Royal is likely Charlotte de Dunois, and "long coming to a decision" was complicated by Charlotte, former bride to Duke of Gloucester, dying the same year. It was discussed on a previous page.
Other than Charlotte, there are only two princesses that fit the year and description - OTL Duchesse de Guise and OTL Queen of Portugal, but Elisabeth d'Orleans is ruled out due to her being a fanatical Catholic.
 
King Rupert I sounds like a sequel to Ralf I, but it’s an interesting concept.

As for a wife, could I suggest Lady Mary Villiers (1622–1685), the daughter of the George Villiers, 1st Duke of Buckingham and Katherine Manners, 19th Baroness de Ros. This would be a good link for the royal family as Baroness Manners was at the time known as the richest woman in Britain, apart from royalty. While George is a favourite of King James I and rumoured to be the kings lover.
When might such a marriage occur?
 
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