Question: The next Tsar?

Max Sinister

Banned
The Czarevich Alexei, I'd say. If he doesn't die before Nicolai, of course. If he dies before, Nicolai's brother Michael would become next in line (OTL, he became czar for one day, before he resigned and gave Kerenski the power).
 

Akiyama

Any idea what Alexei or Michael might be like as rulers?

I don't suppose anyone's ever written much about Grand Duke Michael have they?
 

Max Sinister

Banned
No, most texts don't even acknowledge that he was technically last czar for one day.
Wikipedia says he was an amiable person, at least in his family. How good he could govern is another question - he never had to prove it. From my gut feel I'd say he'd do better than Nicolai, cause most people would do better. Even if he isn't, he might be more popular. His marriage was a little problem... his wife had been married twice and had already two kids, and his first son of her was illegitime and only later acknowledged. He got some trouble with his family.

Alexei? He had the problem with his disease. I don't know whether he could carry the burden of being Czar.
 

The Ubbergeek

I wonder.... Was there another noblemen bloodline who could have been Tsar, had the whole Romanov line died, by the way? Is there another familly who could pretend to the throne or it's a 'the first who grab it' thing?
 

Max Sinister

Banned
I don't know who'd be next in line... the rulers of little country Anhalt in Germany might be among them, Catherine the Great came from there.
 

Othniel

Likely go to his Russian Cousins first wouldn't it? Technically I think it can go through a woman, but since Catherine the Great a woman just wasn't able to rule over the Czardom... so prehaps the sons of Grand Duke George Alexandrovich of Russia or Grand Duke Alexander Alexandrovich of Russia, his now dead brothers would be elegible first?(whoops, neither had childern...)
 
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Othniel

Max Sinister said:
Czar Paul (Catherine's son) made a law that forbad women as rulers. Of course, laws can be changed.
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Can the line be continued without changing the law through the sons of his sisters? If so we don't have to go to through the possible Desedants of Alexander II...(of which most were assassinated through the Russian Revolution, so possiblities there...)
 

Othniel

Through Xenia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchess_Xenia_Alexandrovna_of_Russia
wikipedia said:
HH Prince Andrei Alexandrovich of Russia (1897-1981), married morganatically Elisabetta Ruffo (1887-1940), then Nadine McDougall (1908-2000), cr. HSH Princess Romanovskaya; had issue:

HH Prince Fyodor Alexandrovich of Russia (1898-1968), married morganatically HSH Princess Irina Paley (1903-1990); had issue:

HH Prince Nikita Alexandrovich of Russia (1900-1974), married (morganatically) Countess Maria Vorontsova-Dashkova (1903-1997); had issue:

HH Prince Dmitri Alexandrovich of Russia (1901-1980), married morganatically Contess Marina Golenishcheva-Kutuzova (1912-1969), cr. HSH Princess Romanovskaya-Kutuzova, then Sheila Chisholm (1898-1969), cr. HSH Princess Romanovskaya; had issue by first marriage:

HH Prince Rotislav Alexandrovich of Russia, married morganatically Princess Aleksandra Pavlovna Golitsyna (born 1905), then Alice Eilken (1923-1996), then Hedwig von Chappuis (1905-1997), cr. HSH Princess Romanovskaya; had issue from first (first child) and second (second child) marriages:

HH Prince Vasili Alexandrovich of Russia (1907-1989), married morganatically Princess Natalia Alexandrovna Golitsyna (1907-1989); had issue:
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I can't seem to find the childern of Olga...so though they'd likely be in line...well..
 

Othniel

Next up I think are the childern of Nicolas's Grandfather, his uncles...and if they are dead it should go to his cousins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_II_of_Russia
On April 16, 1841 he married Princess Marie of Hesse in St. Petersburg, the daughter of Ludwig II, Grand Duke of Hesse and by Rhine, thereafter known as Maria Alexandrovna. The marriage produced six sons and two daughters:
  • Alexandra Alexandrovna (1842-1849).
  • Nicholas Alexandrovich (1843-1865). He was engaged to princess Dagmar of Denmark, who later married his brother Alexander III under the name Maria Fyodorovna.
  • Alexander Alexandrovich, the future emperor
  • Maria Alexandrovna (1853-1920). Married Alfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
  • Vladimir Alexandrovich of Russia (1847-1909). Married Princess Marie of Mecklenburg-Schwerin and had issue: three sons (Grand Dukes Kirill, Boris and Andrey Vladimirovich) and a daughter (Grand Duchess Elena, who married Prince Nicholas of Greece).
  • Alexei Alexandrovich (1850-1908). Married Alexandra Zhukovsky and had a son (executed by the Communist regime in 1932).
  • Sergei Alexandrovich of Russia (1857-1905). Assassinated. Married Elisabeth of Hesse-Darmstadt, who was murdered by the Bolsheviks in Alapaevsk in 1918. They had no children.
  • Paul Alexandrovich of Russia (1860-1919). Married first Alexandra of Greece (daughter of George I of Greece) and second Olga Karnovich von Pistolkors, Princess Paley, and had issue by both. Both Grand Duke Paul and his son Prince Vladimir Paley (1897-1918), a remarkable poet, were killed by the Bolsheviks.
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Akiyama

Grey Wolf was quite a fan:

Tsar Michael the Great
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Wow! :eek:

Thanks! I've bookmarked that and I'll go through it . . . as soon as I've finished reading "Second Chance" :D

BTW, does anyone know how Grey Wolf is doing?
 
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