Question about the ARW

Would there be any way for Quebec and at least one of the two Florida's to join the ARW? Also could there be some way for the District of Georgia to remain out of the ARW? And if yes to both previous questions, could they both happen in the same timeline? I was thinking of a Revolutionary War timeline, and wanted to know if it could really happen. Also if one of them works, could any of you help with facts and the such as well as making sure it's plausible?
 
Did a bit of research and it appears as though Nova Scotia wanted in on the revolution, but the idea was abandoned by Washington and the Continental Congress when the siege of Quebec failed.

I'm not sure about the rest of Canada, though.
 
Interesting, so if a delay at Quebec City occurs, with the snowstorm passing, and then launching an attack, it could result in a victory or a Pyrrhic victory for the thirteen colonies, and then possibly Nova Scotia could join, and then I don't know from there...
 
To get quebec to join the best bet I think is for there to be no Quebec Act, which allowed the french in quebec to speak their native language and have their catholic churches untouched. This would give Quebec more reason to join the revolution. This would provide enough geographic advantage for the US to gain much more of Canada. If the US successfully gets Canada to join the revolution, then they would likely get both Floridas to either join in, or to conquer them militarily.
 
The usual answer to this question is for there to be no (or a drastically altered) Quebec Act, Glen took it to a very original degree with DSA. It's probably the only Canada in the U.S. TL I've ever seen that wasn't an Ameriwank, though admittedly, there may be some that evaded my radar.
 
To get quebec to join the best bet I think is for there to be no Quebec Act, which allowed the french in quebec to speak their native language and have their catholic churches untouched. This would give Quebec more reason to join the revolution. This would provide enough geographic advantage for the US to gain much more of Canada. If the US successfully gets Canada to join the revolution, then they would likely get both Floridas to either join in, or to conquer them militarily.

Not just this.

Francophobia and anti-catholic feelings of Americans were also a part of the whole issues. Between Britain and Americans, the choice was at least obvious to have a certain degree of neutrality-not caring.
 
You could have the Willing Expedition of 1778 in West Florida go spectacularly well.

As for East Florida, well, there were several attempts to conquer it, the most famous being the Battle of Alligator Bridge. Just have that go well.
 
Not just this.

Francophobia and anti-catholic feelings of Americans were also a part of the whole issues. Between Britain and Americans, the choice was at least obvious to have a certain degree of neutrality-not caring.

Indeed. Under the British the Quebecois had far better government than they did under the French, so it would have to be a lot worse for them to consider it "tyranny". They certainly would have laughed at the idea that "no taxation without representation" was being treated like "slaves".

And yes, as you say, there is a long history of animosity between the Quebecois and the Anglo-American colonists. French society in Canada could easily be flooded by English immigration from New England. Even if you get Quebec to declare independent and join the war effort against the British, they're going to want to go their own way afterwards.


Could have liberated/conquered the Bahamas too.

Not really very likely considering the strength of the Royal Navy and the absence of an American one.
 
The likelihood of Spanish colonies joining the ARW is pretty much nil and since the Americans needed all the help they could get from Europe, with Spain second only to France in terms of support, the logic for an invasion of a Spanish colony doesn't seem apparent.
 

Thande

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Nova Scotia perhaps, but not 'Canada' in the sense of the term at the time. From the point of view of the French Canadians, the leadup to the ARW went like this:

Quebec: Montcalm will protect us in the Seven Years' War!

Britain & American colonists: No he won't, Wolfe will huff and puff and blow Montcalm down!

Quebec: Crap!

American colonists: Cool, now we get to kill or drive away those damn French Papists and take their land for ourselves, like we did in Nova Scotia!

Britain: Actually, that would probably end in tears, so we're going to let them keep their religion, their legal structure and their land.

Quebec: Really?

American colonists: REALLY?!

Britain: And while we're at it, let's also give them half the land you thought YOU'D get in the Michigan area.

Quebec: Cool!

American colonists: WHAT.



So yeah, the French Canadians really have no reason to join the Americans in rebelling, not unless maybe it was later on and the Americans said that Quebec would go back to their ally France again if they won.
 
Nova Scotia perhaps, but not 'Canada' in the sense of the term at the time. From the point of view of the French Canadians, the leadup to the ARW went like this:

Quebec: Montcalm will protect us in the Seven Years' War!

Britain & American colonists: No he won't, Wolfe will huff and puff and blow Montcalm down!

Quebec: Crap!

American colonists: Cool, now we get to kill or drive away those damn French Papists and take their land for ourselves, like we did in Nova Scotia!

Britain: Actually, that would probably end in tears, so we're going to let them keep their religion, their legal structure and their land.

Quebec: Really?

American colonists: REALLY?!

Britain: And while we're at it, let's also give them half the land you thought YOU'D get in the Michigan area.

Quebec: Cool!

American colonists: WHAT.



So yeah, the French Canadians really have no reason to join the Americans in rebelling, not unless maybe it was later on and the Americans said that Quebec would go back to their ally France again if they won.

Thande

Very funny but accurate.:D With one exception, as Britain did transfer about half of French Canada to the area the US later claimed.:(

Steve
 
Nova Scotia perhaps, but not 'Canada' in the sense of the term at the time. From the point of view of the French Canadians, the leadup to the ARW went like this:

Quebec: Montcalm will protect us in the Seven Years' War!

Britain & American colonists: No he won't, Wolfe will huff and puff and blow Montcalm down!

Quebec: Crap!

American colonists: Cool, now we get to kill or drive away those damn French Papists and take their land for ourselves, like we did in Nova Scotia!

Britain: Actually, that would probably end in tears, so we're going to let them keep their religion, their legal structure and their land.

Quebec: Really?

American colonists: REALLY?!

Britain: And while we're at it, let's also give them half the land you thought YOU'D get in the Michigan area.

Quebec: Cool!

American colonists: WHAT.



So yeah, the French Canadians really have no reason to join the Americans in rebelling, not unless maybe it was later on and the Americans said that Quebec would go back to their ally France again if they won.
I literally laughed out loud after reading this. Many thanks. :D
 
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