Query could Titanic have been worse?

Could other ships be further away? Could the wireless have been knocked out?

How long before lifeboats are found had the ship appeared to just disappear that night?
 
It could be worse if, for example, some of the lifeboats were defective because the builders tried to save money and it was released to the public.
 
Hitting the berg head on might have knocked out the radio, and caused large numbers of injuries. Not sure if it would have sank faster or slower. Depends of if the hull plates crack or break their rivets in large numbers. Hitting head on would have transfered a enormous amount of energy to the frame & hull skin. A lot could give out depending on the energy and ability of the hull to asorb it & still remain water tight.
 
Possible pods

Shouldn't there be many pods with a worse Titanic sinking even after the iceberg was spotted? Especially with lives lost.
Early in the sinking [pod after iceberg detection].
-Iceberg collision impacts the ship head on and causes it to sink.
-Worse damage and/or flooding from damage received.
-Capsizing or taking a severe list. [Pod is that the watertight doors are left open for some reason.]
-Stricter enforcement of the 'women and children first' policy or interpretation as 'women and children only' for every lifeboat [or even an extra lifeboat or two more].
-Possible defects or leaks in launched lifeboats [Lifeboat 6 for example].
- Locking of 3rd class passengers and crew being a more severe issue.
- Loss of wireless connection with other ships.
Later in the sinking [pod after 1:30 or so.]
-Selfishness [most probably on the part of first class passengers and crew members, especially men].
- Extra lack of urgency or 'unsinkable' deception.
- Panic [due to exaggerated fears, selfishness etc.], especially at the last lifeboats.
- More shootings, beatings or dragging of passengers and crew.
- Less lifeboats being able to escape [properly], especially the collapsibles.
- Collapsibles A and B not escaping just in time, being crushed or sinking [due to flooding] before rescue of survivors.
- More passengers and crew members not making to the water alive.
- Less pieces of wreckage in the water or lifejackets worn.
-After the sinking
- Lifeboats being swamped by the swimmers in the water, either through force or overloading [especially Lifeboats 12 and 14].
- Lifeboats not getting in time to rescue survivors in the water.
- Carpathia not arriving in time to rescue survivors.
- Victims suffering worse fates than reality and lucky survivors dying from complications on the wreckage before rescue or in a lifeboat, the Carpathia or a hospital over the following hours and days.
- No recovery ship sent [in time] to retrieve corpses and possessions from the ocean [or less found].
 
Hitting the berg head on might have knocked out the radio, and caused large numbers of injuries. Not sure if it would have sank faster or slower. Depends of if the hull plates crack or break their rivets in large numbers. Hitting head on would have transfered a enormous amount of energy to the frame & hull skin. A lot could give out depending on the energy and ability of the hull to asorb it & still remain water tight.


The bow will be severely damaged and Titanic will be taking on water almost immediately after the direct hit. She would've sunk in 1hr and 45 mins and much more lives would've been lost than in OTL
 
A more violent side impact may see her go faster and result in some lifeboats not getting away, further swelling casualties.

I have noticed many mention a bow impact. This may actually have saved the ship as less compartments may have been breached.
 
Agreed.

I always assumed a long gash down the starboard side could have put on such a list that none of the lifeboats could be launched. Or even lead to a capsizing - in either case I don't anticipate many, if any, survivors.
 

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A more violent side impact may see her go faster and result in some lifeboats not getting away, further swelling casualties.

I have noticed many mention a bow impact. This may actually have saved the ship as less compartments may have been breached.

At low speed, maybe, at 22 knots? Doubtful

Not good at the maths side of things but a 55'000 ton ship at 30mph coming to an abrupt stop doesn't sound like it'd be good for anyone involved.


edit: This link looks about right

Working in SI units, calculating power generated by ship movement and using the figures I gave above, 55000 tonnes (note, I’m using metric tonnes, 2200lbs, not long tons, 2240 lbs) and velocity of 22 knots = …22 x 1850 (metres in a nautical mile) / 3600 (seconds in 1 hour) = 55,000,000Kg x 9.81 (newtons per kg) x 11.3 m per sec = 6096,915,000 watts, or 6096 Mw.

The force generated, assuming a dead stop, would be mass(Kg) x velocity(m/sec) x 9.81(grav force, newtons/kg)/ 9.81 (Newtons/kg), or 55000000 x 11.3 x 9.81/ 9.81 = 651,500,000 kg.= 651,500 tonnes.

By comparison, a 1 ton car travelling at 60 mph (96 km/hr) would be: 1000 kg x 9.81 (g) x (96 x 1000/3600) = 1000 x 9.81 x 26.6 = 261600 watts, or 261.6 Kw, and the force generated in coming to a dead stop would be 1000 kg x 26.6 m/sec = 26600 Kg, or 26.6 tonnes.
 
Have the water pumps being destroyed by the impact -> the Titanic tilts rightwards and half of the lifeboats can't be used.

Hitting the berg head on might have knocked out the radio, and caused large numbers of injuries. Not sure if it would have sank faster or slower.

I heard that most of the people agree that actually the Titanic wouldn't have sank if hitting the berg head. Many sailors in the bow would have died, but the bulkhead could have saved (they were unable to do this OTL because the leak was too elongated).
 
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