Queen Victoria doesn't carry the hemophilia allele

probably everyone here knows that Queen Victoria is ultimately the source of hemophilia among many of the royal families of Europe. i'd be willing to bet that fewer of us know that this actually happened purely by chance: Victoria (or possibly her mother) didn't have any ancestors who carried the allele that causes hemophilia, e.g., it was a random mutation that occurred in her specifically

suppose that she doesn't receive that random mutation, hence the royal families of Europe don't have hemophilia. what does everyone think would be the result?

one that immediately comes to mind is that Rasputin could very well not become influential if Alexei doesn't suffer like he did, which could have all sorts of repercussions on Russian history
 

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one that immediately comes to mind is that Rasputin could very well not become influential if Alexei doesn't suffer like he did, which could have all sorts of repercussions on Russian history

Why "could very well"? Without the hemophilia of Alexei, there is no chance at all of Rasputin becoming influential. This could prevent the collapse of the Russian Empire or, at the very least, result in a completely different collapse. Almost certainly we'd see no Soviet Union.
 
Why "could very well"? Without the hemophilia of Alexei, there is no chance at all of Rasputin becoming influential. This could prevent the collapse of the Russian Empire or, at the very least, result in a completely different collapse. Almost certainly we'd see no Soviet Union.
Rasputin was less 'the deciding cog' and more like 'the straw that broke the camel's back,' in my opinion. The Russian Empire was set to fail if World War I happened. Hell, with this POD, we could very well butterfly away many of the European leaders.
 
No effect Rasputin no matter what, all this is a myth. Simply, he was a convenient target for the opposition press, but be - it would have found someone else. In the end, the tsarina was a "German spy.":)
 
Rasputin was earning a lot of money, receiving bribes, as alleged could influence the decision of the emperor. He constantly told that the emperor does not do anything without consulting him.
The facts show quite different: from a few hundred notes of Rasputin to the Emperor to appoint officials, only two (probably by accident) in line with the actual appointments. Nicolai treated Rasputin with disdain, but admitted him to the palace, because he really could facilitate disease the heir.
By the way, an interesting fact: after the murder of Rasputin, his apartment was searched, hoping to find a lot of money, but found very little. He gave everything away! Every day he took a lot of applicants, poking his hand into the trunk with money and not counting gave the petitioner: "Here's to you."
 
Yeah, put me in with the "Rasputin is hardly the most significant thing wrong with the Tsarist regime". Hell, Nicky might have saved himself some grief if he'd listened to him more often--Rasputin was one of the first people to tell him "The people really aren't going for this war, sir."

Which is, in fact, probably why he got killed.
 
Yeah, put me in with the "Rasputin is hardly the most significant thing wrong with the Tsarist regime". Hell, Nicky might have saved himself some grief if he'd listened to him more often--Rasputin was one of the first people to tell him "The people really aren't going for this war, sir."

Which is, in fact, probably why he got killed.

The devil knows, he said always different, depending on who was paying him. In the end, it is an uneducated peasant who barely knew how to write.
There is notion that his murder was attended by British agents, it is possible that his stories about his own influence to believe.
Also, I do not think that Russia was at the moment in a terrible position. No worse than other countries of the Entente.
 
Given Victoria's successful marriage and numerous issue it actually only passed to a few of her descendants and only the Royal Houses of Russia and Spain were directly affected.

In the Russian case - Alexei's health undoubtedly brought on significant mental and emotional stress for his parents which certainly increased their isolation but they were already pretty withdrawn from both the Romanov family and society and was really only one symptom of the ultimate collapse of the dynasty.
In the Spanish case -- Queen Victoria Eugenie was already unpopular but the production of a haemophiliac heir and her husband's poor reaction didn't help her - a healthy heir wouldn't have prevented the Spanish Civil War - though she might have had a happier marriage.

Only two of Victoria's daughter's who married appear to be carriers -
Grand Duchess Alice of Hesse and Rhine and Princess Beatrice of Battenburg

Of Alice's children:

Victoria of Hesse and By Rhine Marchioness of Milford Haven - has no known descendants with the disease so was not perhaps a carrier.
Elizabeth of Hesse and By Rhine - Grand Duchess Serge of Russia had no children.
Irene of Hesse and By Rhine - Princess Heinrich of Prussia passed it to two of her sons - Waldemar who died in his fifties and Heinrich who died age four.
Her son Freidrich was most likely a haemophliac but died from a fall.
Alix of Hesse and By Rhine - The Empress Alexandra Feodorovna - her son had it and we don't know if her daughter's would have been carriers. (though tests on the Ekaterinburg remains suggests at least one of the girls might have been)
Marie of Hesse and By Rhine died in infancy.

Of Beatrice's children
Alexander Marquess of Carisbrooke did not have it
Prince Leopold was a haemophiliac
Prince Maurice does not appear to have been
Victoria Eugenie later Queen of Spain did carry it and passed it to
two of her sons including the heir Alfonso Prince of Asturias. Her daughter's do not appear to have carried it.
 
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