I kind of like otl Margaret of Parma...especially if she chooses to become a nun instead of making her second marriage (Charles v’s intentions notwithstanding).
Mihrimah Sultan, Princess of the Ottoman Empire, born 1523.
If not Jeanne, then search some rich daughter of merchants... someone like Catherine de’ Medici (but without her maternal blue blood and lands)...Fabulous suggestions everyone!! Thank you all so much!
Madeleine wasn't an elopement, just not her dad's first choice. I'm leaning towards Margaret being mostly the same. The problem with Charles accepting his dad approved marriage, is that he is by far the wildest most impulsive of Francis's children. So, if the older brother's eloped, I just can't make him marry appropriately. He's refusing too.
Really great suggestions, I love Jeanne d'Albert and would love to do more with her. Though I notice there were no truly out of line suggestions for Charles. Looking at his OTL self I was thinking he'd make the worst choice in bride.
Then he'd really be tearing his hair out
I also like this idea, but I just can't get Charles too. OTL he died after running into a plague house; he's idiotic impulsivity personified. I'm having trouble making him pick a reasonable bride.
Anyone have any suggestions for some truly inappropriate brides for Charles?
Thanks again everyone! Ya'll the best!
Still a respectable princess, from an ancient Italian family (and impossible to get once she entered in the church, who possibly was her own choice)For a lark, what about Eleanora d'Este?
Margaret of Parma
Martin Luther did have a daughter born in 1529
young noble Abbes
Catherine Carey
Dorothy Lansey
Mihrimah Sultan, Princess of the Ottoman Empire, born 1523.
Eleanora d'Este
aunt Renee
Oh I think I speak for us all when I say we love bouncing ideas around...You have all risen to the challenge; these are fabulous! You’ve given me a lot to work with. I now really want to do Mihrimah but I don’t think I have enough time to do the research it would require :/ So I’ll have to table it for another timeline.
Once again, thanks
Wow, that's really interesting.I have had another wild idea. What about Charles taking his aunt Renee as his wife? Yes, yes, I know she was married to the Duke of Ferrara in 1528, but hear me out. Renee had Calvin to stay at her Court in 1536, and was later tried for heresy in the 1550s. If her trial was brought forward to the later 1530s, and her marriage to Ferrara was annulled because of it, then Francis could send the teenage Charles to Italy to bring her home and they could fall in love and elope a la Mary Tudor the Elder and Charles Brandon.
It's probably far too complex and wouldn't work, but you've got everything rolled into one there - high-ranking enough that his father can't complain, but tinged with Protestantism and far too close in blood for anyone to be comfortable with it.
Real life comes first, no matter how virtual it has to be these days!In which I push off the update
So, I was hoping to have my regular update today but work kept me busy (setting up partially remote schooling is actually harder than fully remote schooling) and this weekend I have a virtual family reunion. So, sorry but the next update won't be till be next Saturday
In which I push off the update
So, I was hoping to have my regular update today but work kept me busy (setting up partially remote schooling is actually harder than fully remote schooling) and this weekend I have a virtual family reunion. So, sorry but the next update won't be till be next Saturday
If I remember correctly, Fitzroy is engaged to Catherine de'Medici...considering her OTL gynecological record, I'm thinking that he'll have at least one surviving child but maybe not for a while yet.Will Fitzroy's child become the ruler of Ireland? Or will he give the position to Edmund (if he has no children)?
I think they're married by now, but the point still stands...If I remember correctly, Fitzroy is engaged to Catherine de'Medici...considering her OTL gynecological record, I'm thinking that he'll have at least one surviving child but maybe not for a while yet.
Ah yes, living with a three year old myself I am much aware of the fascination that toddlers have with taking their clothes off haha.
I imagine the potential for mix ups between Henry and Edmund is going to be quite the problem as they get older.
And I hope Mary gets to see little Lady Cecily often, a happy Mary is a Mary that I can get behind! Excellent update.
If they're practically identical, I could see them playing tricks on people like Ambassadors, and sitting at opposite ends of the room so that the diplomats don't know which one to bow to, that sort of thing.