Hmm...Gustav Vasa's first wife died in 1535 IOTL. He chose his second wife from the Swedish nobility to shore up support there so IDK if he would be willing to wed the bastard daughter of a foreign king. As for Russia, it would take some major changes for that to happen. Maybe an Italian prince, since FitzRoy is now married to a Medici?You could always have 'Lady Mary Tudor' be married off in either Scandinavia or Russia, somewhere that sends her far away and where people won't be interested in pushing her theoretical claims on the English throne.
I still vote Henry Howard for Mary's husband. Keep your friends close but your (potential) enemies closer.
Certainly not. But Mary's marriage to him also wouldn't require Henry VIII to restore her legitimacy.Would you really want to give a man like Henry Howard a potential claim on the throne though?
This is going to kick off isn’t it
This is impossible. Mary can not marry so highIt would be infinitely interesting to see Lady Mary escape England into Dauphin François' embrace, and even more if he survives long enough to become King of France.
And of course there's an added bonus, the irony of her maybe finding happiness (or relative peace of mind) at French court.
I'm definitely rooting for this match!
Catherine in Ireland is great and Mary and Charles is an interesting couple...Bahahaha! This is going to be fun. Pass the popcorn.
Also - Yay for Catherine de Medici as Queen of Ireland... and I never thought of Mary Boleyn and Charles Brandon together, but I love it!
Henry the "Mastermind" strikes againSo, Henry VIII decided to ‘fix’ the situation. He informed Charles Brandon that he would be marrying Queen Anne’s sister the widow Mary Carey. [1] Neither party was particularly happy with the decision. But what could they do?
Yeah for pretty babes.Early in October of 1533, Charles Brandon and Mary Boleyn would marry. They didn’t have the happiest marriage: she would retire to Suffolk’s estates and rarely venture to court, he would stay in court with a string of mistresses. But on the flip side, their children were extremely attractive.”
The Tudors: A Real-Life Soup Opera by Diana Marks
Not only Henry, I too.1] The fact that Charles Brandon had married both the King’s sister Mary and the King’s sister-in-law Mary was one of those little ironies that only Henry enjoyed.
Hmm, should I feel more sorry for the Irish one for Fitzroy?Henry VIII would arrange the marriage of his bastard son to Catherine de Medici. As part of the marriage agreement, Henry VIII made Henry FitzRoy King of Ireland.
*making huge amounts of Popcorn *So, he sent Prince Francis, Duke of Brittany to England. Purportedly just for a visit, but really to try and woo the Lady Mary. This caused everyone a lot of stress later.”
Or you could have François III, Duke of Brittany, Dauphin of France, still die young and François I then comes up with the idea that Mary Tudor should marry his younger son Henri (II), Duke of Orléans and Brittany, Dauphin of France, which, remembering the fate of her mother, Mary might be very much disinclined to do.It would be infinitely interesting to see Lady Mary escape England into Dauphin François' embrace, and even more if he survives long enough to become King of France. ...
That might depend on the dowry. If Henry VIII would be willing to give her Calais on top of restoring her legitimacy, it might be worth it from the French POV. And to keep it, François I might be adament that Mary Tudor be betrothed to his younger son after François III, Duke of Brittany kicks the bucket.This is impossible. Mary can not marry so high
But for what reason Henry would do it? For him surely this match will not be worth the cost, plus he need to be careful to where he will marry Mary, specially if he has NO intention, as is likely, to restore her legitimacy...Or you could have François III, Duke of Brittany, Dauphin of France, still die young and François I then comes up with the idea that Mary Tudor should marry his younger son Henri (II), Duke of Orléans and Brittany, Dauphin of France, which, remembering the fate of her mother, Mary might be very much disinclined to do.
That might depend on the dowry. If Henry VIII would be willing to give her Calais on top of restoring her legitimacy, it might be worth it from the French POV. And to keep it, François I might be adament that Mary Tudor be betrothed to his younger son after François III, Duke of Brittany kicks the bucket.
This is alternate history, so the term "impossible" must be applied carefully. I agree that the match it would be indeed unlikely but that doesn't make straight away an impossibility.This is impossible. Mary can not marry so high
That is true but while he is secure, I doubt Henry will take the great risk of marrying Mary in France and no way who a Mary NOT fully restored as legitimate daughter of Henry and princess of England will marry the heir of FranceThis is alternate history, so the term "impossible" must be applied carefully. I agree that the match it would be indeed unlikely but that doesn't make straight away an impossibility.
But again, this whole TL is pretty much centered around Anne Boleyn birthing quadruplets (three of whom are boys) and surviving the labor along with her four children.
And anyways, it will all depend on what @Cate13 has planned for this TL.
Just how subject Ireland is to England varies depending on Henry's mood. Luckily FitzRoy is even keeled enough to handle it and the next generation settles things officially.So is Henry FitzRoy being made de facto hereditary governor of Ireland, whilst still being subject to Henry, or is Henry getting rid of Ireland to minimise headaches for himself?
Or both?
Yay for Catherine de Medici as Queen of Ireland
Ireland won't know what hit themCatherine in Ireland is great
I never thought of Mary Boleyn and Charles Brandon together, but I love it!
It just sort of happened when I realized that if I wanted Henry Brandon to marry Katherine Henry VIII needed to get involved. And the irony appealed to me.Mary and Charles is an interesting couple