Queen Elizabeth II

Erm I don't know how to break this to you but there already is an Elizabeth II.

This is a different Queen Elizabeth II.

Will Elizabeth II marry Philip.

This is a different Queen Elizabeth II.

But Elizabeth II is born post 1900.

This is a different Queen Elizabeth II in Pre-1900.

But Elizabeth II is born in the 20s.

This is a different Queen Elizabeth II born in 1820.

So it is, a different Elizabeth?

Yes, as I have said!
 
Erm I don't know how to break this to you but there already is an Elizabeth II.

This is a different Queen Elizabeth II.

Will Elizabeth II marry Philip.

This is a different Queen Elizabeth II.

But Elizabeth II is born post 1900.

This is a different Queen Elizabeth II in Pre-1900.

But Elizabeth II is born in the 20s.

This is a different Queen Elizabeth II born in 1820.

So it is, a different Elizabeth?

Yes, as I have said!

Where is the TL?

:p
 
Introduction

On Thursday, 25th January, 1821 [1], her Royal Highness, the Duchess of Clarence and St Andrews, Adelaide of Saxe-Meiningen, gave birth to a healthy baby girl, a granddaughter of King George III of the United Kingdom and daughter of Prince William, Duke of Clarence and St Andrews, who was 55.

After having had one child who died on the day of her birth, Princess Charlotte and suffering a stillbirth, the royal couple were delighted that their third pregnancy, went to full term.

The Duke and Duchess of Clarence had wanted to name her Georgina, but the Duke's brother, King George IV asked that she be named Elizabeth instead, so the royal couple agreed and christened her "Elizabeth Georgiana Adelaide"
Princess Elizabeth of Clarence was christened on the day of her birth at St James's Palace by William Howley, Bishop of London.

At her birth, she was the third in line to the British throne, behind her uncle, Prince Frederick, Duke of York and her father, The Prince William, Duke of Clarence.

[1] The Point of Difference is that the third pregnancy of the Duchess of Clarence went as expected, where the Duchess delivered a girl, not six weeks premature, but on the date due, giving the young royal a better chance at developing in the womb.
 
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Childhood


The nation would get a first glance of Princess Elizabeth, on 19 July 1821, at the age of 6 months, during the coronationof her older uncle, George IV. Many would comment on how happy the royal couple, Duke and Duchess of Clarence and St Andrews, looked.


The young royal, from the age of three, would be always beside her father's side, even while he went to the House of Lords. Princess Elizabeth, would learn the ways of British politics from a young age.

Elizabeth was educated by John Keate, who had ties with the royal family already, with his brother, Robert Keate, being the Serjeant Surgeon to her father. She did well in French, German, Classics, Geography and History.

One thing that Elizabeth, remembered vividly from her childhood, was the love she felt and recieved from her older cousins, Princess Alexandria of Kent and Prince George of Cumberland.
Famously, these three would speak privately in German and Latin.



For the first seven years, the young royal, grew up in bliss, seeing her parents positive and loving influence on her and each other. On 5 January 1827, Princess Elizabeth, was informed that, her uncle Prince Frederick, Duke of York and Albany, had died meaning that herself was now second in line, just behind her father.

At 65, the government and nation, had come to the embrace the fact, that King George IV, was not going to bare a child, meaning that William, who himself was 60, would be the next king, with his daughter as his heir.


Although, Princess Elizabeth, was only 6, when she was elevated to the third in line, she would become one of the most important women in Britain.


When King George IV died on 26 June 1830 without surviving legitimate issue, Elizabeth saw her father, succeeded him as William IV. Aged 64, her father was the oldest person ever to assume the British throne.


At nine year old, Elizabeth was invested as Princess of Wales, the office not held since, her uncle, George became Prince Regent in 1820. She was also supportive of her father's policial reforms such as the poor law updated, child labour restricted, slavery abolished in nearly all the British Empire, and the British electoral system refashioned by the Reform Act 1832.


On 30th May 1837, King William IV, made his last pulic apperence, when he walked (slowly due to age and illness) Princess Elizabeth, down the aisle of Westminister Abbey, for her marriage to her cousin, Prince George of Cumberland.


Not only were these two truely in love, the match, was greeted with happiness by the British public and also allowed the British and Hanoverian thrones to stay united, with George, being titled as King of Hanover, allowing the new royal couple to become equal state heads.


Queen Adelaide and Princess Elizabeth attended the dying William devotedly, neither of them, going to bed for more than ten days.
King William IV died in the early hours of the morning of 20 June 1837 at Windsor Castle, where he was buried.


Elizabeth, was now Queen Elizabeth II at the age of 16, due to being young, the new monarch, would have to serve, a year and seven months, under a regency.

The Royal Regency was made up of nobility and politicians.
- The Queen's Mother, Adelaide
- William's nephew and Elizabeth's husband, Prince Consort, King George.

- William's brother and Elizabeth's father-in-law, Ernest Augustus, Duke of Cumberland.
- Charles Grey, 2nd Earl Grey
- Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington
- Charles Blomfield, Bishop of London [1]
- William's brother and Elizabeth's uncle, Prince Adolphus, Duke of Cambridge was carrying on as Viceroy of Hanover.

[1] Archbishop of Canterbury, William Howley was not put onto the council due to his perception by the public, who disliked his opposition to the Great Reform Act.
 
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Did Prince George still suffer from blindness as he did in OTL?

I do hope that Elizabeth and her husband can seperate themselves from any influence George's father may have over him.
 
Great timeline so far, keep up the effort.
I'm curious to what extent Hanover will be involved with the emerging German Reich if at all. Long live the Queen!
 
Did Prince George still suffer from blindness as he did in OTL?

I do hope that Elizabeth and her husband can seperate themselves from any influence George's father may have over him.

I was hoping to have the childhood accident and illness, butterflied away, either due to the event not happening at all or that the young princess was able to stop the prince from having the accident.

As for Elizabeth's uncle and father-in-law, Prince Ernest Augustus, Duke of Cumberland, he sadly will have a bit more influence in British politics, due to his link to the crown.
As the oldest surviving son of King George III, he is rumoured to have gotten so angry about being overshadowed by the young Queen and his son, that he intended to murder the pair and take the throne for himself, although, this was never acted upon and Ernest, would carry on his role in the House of Lords and reside in Buckingham House until his death in 1851.

Great timeline so far, keep up the effort.
I'm curious to what extent Hanover will be involved with the emerging German Reich if at all. Long live the Queen!

I am hoping to have Hanover, kept out of the German Unification, by its links to Britain.
Thank you for your kind words and Long May She Reign.
 
Jonathan,
So far, so good (and this princess WAS for a brief time ahead of Vic in the succession). I hate to be a wet firecracker however;

1. Princess Charlotte was NOT 'Princess of Wales'. She was the daughter of George IV when HE was 'Prince of Wales' and thus was a 'Princess of Wales' (the same way the future Edward VII's own daughters were when he had that title) not the Princess of Wales. The ONLY way this could have happened would have been had the Prince of Wales himself died before the monarch but had only an heiress to succeed him making her the Heiress Apparent (which could have happened had Prinny actually died shortly after Princess Charlotte's birth when he felt ill enough to make a will thinking he was on death's door). Anyway, the eldest daughter of the King does not become a Princess of Wales because of the possibility of a future brother being born to usurp the title (which is why the current Queen had ONLY been 'Princess Elizabeth of Great Britain and Ireland' but not Princess of Wales prior to her succession).

2. Why would Prince George of Cumberland become King of Hanover INSTEAD of his father Ernest, Duke of Cumberland? Yes, the older man was a pain and a pill but that wasn't reason enough to pass him over in the succession. Moreover, considering how fervently he fought FOR his blind son to become king after him, I seriously doubt he'd have planned his only heir's assassination even if he was the consort of a Queen who didn't listen to the old man.

Still, it would be interesting to imagine how things would have progressed if George V of Hanover had NOT been blinded and I look forward to reading more in that regard.
 
Great timeline few points -

With regard the regency for the minor Princess Elizabeth - the most likely result would be based on the act passed by Parliament in 1830 on William's accession and the fact that Princess Victoria of Kent became heiress apparent.

The Duke of Cumberland and William IV were relatively friendly however Cumberland opposed William over reform, Catholic emancipation, and the Hanoverian constitution (which Cumberland as heir to Hannover was furious about) - William in OTL was always pretty reluctant for Prince George as a spouse for Victoria and I suspect he would have similar views with regard the marriage of his own daughter. William's favourite candidate for Victoria was Prince Alexander of the Netherlands b 1818 who might have been a candidate in this tl for Princess Elizabeth.
William like most of his brothers had little interest in Hannover and non of them were too bothered that the crown's would separate on William's death.

It is extremely unlikely Cumberland would have been passed over as King of Hannover - many in Hannover wanted and desired him to be out of the running - they wanted the younger brother the Duke of Cambridge (who was Viceroy under William IV) to succeed - but the family were pretty united in refusing to allow Cumberland to be passed over. In much the way even Cumberland was supportive of his niece's rights to inherit Britain (when some of his reactionary cohorts suggested Victoria should be passed over due to her age and sex).

The regency act of 1830 -
It effectively vested the regency in the Duchess of Kent until Victoria was 18 or Queen Adelaide produced a child after the death of her husband (in which case Parliament would treat Victoria as if she were dead and proclaim the baby as King or Queen)
Acts without consent of regent were null and void. The regent would be required to take the oath to maintain the true protestant religion. It would be unlawful for the monarch to marry whilst underage unless written consent was given by the regent it would be treason for anyone to marry the monarch without consent and those assisting in such a marriage would also be guilty of treason. The regent could not change the succession or attempt the repeal of the Act of Uniformity - the duchess was disqualified as regent if she married a catholic or a non natural born subject during William's lifetime without consent.
Suggest any regency act for Elizabeth would be the same - Regency vested in Queen Adelaide, Queen Elizabeth to be treated as if she had died if her mother gave birth to a younger brother after her father's death. Adelaide required to take the protestant oath and limits regarding Elizabeth's marriage before she turned 18.
 
Great timeline
So far, so good (and this princess WAS for a brief time ahead of Vic in the succession). I hate to be a wet firecracker however;
Glad you are both liking this and please do not feel like wet firecrackers, I am always happy for "constructive" criticism, I have answered them, and hope this explains my thinking.

1. Princess Charlotte was NOT 'Princess of Wales'. She was the daughter of George IV when HE was 'Prince of Wales' and thus was a 'Princess of Wales' (the same way the future Edward VII's own daughters were when he had that title) not the Princess of Wales. The ONLY way this could have happened would have been had the Prince of Wales himself died before the monarch but had only an heiress to succeed him making her the Heiress Apparent (which could have happened had Prinny actually died shortly after Princess Charlotte's birth when he felt ill enough to make a will thinking he was on death's door). Anyway, the eldest daughter of the King does not become a Princess of Wales because of the possibility of a future brother being born to usurp the title (which is why the current Queen had ONLY been 'Princess Elizabeth of Great Britain and Ireland' but not Princess of Wales prior to her succession).
This is purely a mistake. I forgot that she was only "a" Princess of Wales and not "the" princess of Wales, similar to Prince Harry of Wales and Charles, Prince of Wales.
I will change this now, the reason, I invested Elizabeth as Princess of Wales, was due to King William, knowing he was unable to conceive another healthy child.
2. Why would Prince George of Cumberland become King of Hanover INSTEAD of his father Ernest, Duke of Cumberland? Yes, the older man was a pain and a pill but that wasn't reason enough to pass him over in the succession.
The Duke of Cumberland and William IV were relatively friendly however Cumberland opposed William over reform, Catholic emancipation, and the Hanoverian constitution (which Cumberland as heir to Hannover was furious about) - William in OTL was always pretty reluctant for Prince George as a spouse for Victoria and I suspect he would have similar views with regard the marriage of his own daughter.

In the last will and testimony, William, would not only have the two crowns stay as one, but elevate, George to a position equal to Elizabeth, instead of him just being a consort, he would have his own kingdom to rule.
As much as I like Prince Albert and Prince Philip, their roles, just never felt worthy to me.

They may have been friendly towards each other, but to let the Hanoverian Kingdom, stand alone against the Kingdom of Prussia at this time would lead to the unification of Germany and we know how this plays out in European Politics.
With Prince George and Princess Elizabeth being friends while growing up, I would like to think that King William would have influence the young prince and learn how he will rule.

Moreover, considering how fervently he fought FOR his blind son to become king after him, I seriously doubt he'd have planned his only heir's assassination even if he was the consort of a Queen who didn't listen to the old man.
As I said in my post this was only a rumour - One based on a rumour, from OTL, that before Victoria succeeded to the British throne, Ernest intended to murder her and take the throne himself.

Still, it would be interesting to imagine how things would have progressed if George V of Hanover had NOT been blinded and I look forward to reading more in that regard.
With a liberal wife (who controls the stronger of the two nations) I would hope to believe that TTL George's Hanover, will be a lot different.

It is extremely unlikely Cumberland would have been passed over as King of Hannover - many in Hannover wanted and desired him to be out of the running - they wanted the younger brother the Duke of Cambridge (who was Viceroy under William IV) to succeed - but the family were pretty united in refusing to allow Cumberland to be passed over. In much the way even Cumberland was supportive of his niece's rights to inherit Britain (when some of his reactionary cohorts suggested Victoria should be passed over due to her age and sex).

In TTL, with King George V, being tied between Hanover and Great Britain,
the Duke of Cambridge is still Viceroy.
Could the Duke of Cumberland, not act as Viceroy as well?

William's favourite candidate for Victoria was Prince Alexander of the Netherlands b 1818 who might have been a candidate in this tl for Princess Elizabeth.
William like most of his brothers had little interest in Hannover and non of them were too bothered that the crown's would separate on William's death.
Alexander or "Sasha" as he was know to his family, is not a bad candidate, however I am just not a big fan of him and his military ways, plus with a Russian tie earlier on, it may disrupt future wedding ties.
Also with butterflies, he may have died in in November 1836, while only eighteen-year-old where he was in a serious accident that could easily have cost him his life.

With regard the regency for the minor Princess Elizabeth - the most likely result would be based on the act passed by Parliament in 1830 on William's accession and the fact that Princess Victoria of Kent became heiress apparent.
The regency act of 1830 -
It effectively vested the regency in the Duchess of Kent until Victoria was 18 or Queen Adelaide produced a child after the death of her husband (in which case Parliament would treat Victoria as if she were dead and proclaim the baby as King or Queen)
Acts without consent of regent were null and void. The regent would be required to take the oath to maintain the true protestant religion. It would be unlawful for the monarch to marry whilst underage unless written consent was given by the regent it would be treason for anyone to marry the monarch without consent and those assisting in such a marriage would also be guilty of treason. The regent could not change the succession or attempt the repeal of the Act of Uniformity - the duchess was disqualified as regent if she married a catholic or a non natural born subject during William's lifetime without consent.
Suggest any regency act for Elizabeth would be the same - Regency vested in Queen Adelaide, Queen Elizabeth to be treated as if she had died if her mother gave birth to a younger brother after her father's death. Adelaide required to take the protestant oath and limits regarding Elizabeth's marriage before she turned 18.
Queen Adelaide is still the main Regent of Queen Elizabeth, however due to her being German, the British government, ask for her to have British co-regents to "advise" her
Meaning Queen Adelaide would have the final say and without her consent, all acts were null and void, the co-regents were there just to represent the other voice.
The rest of the act is the same, I am just a strong believer in strong regencies that are made up of a coalition.
 
The Regency Years
(1837-1839)

Following the death of her father, as stated in the Succession to the Crown Act 1707, in the event of the demise of the Crown, an election must be called.
With this the British people began going to the polls from 24th July, and by the 18th August, the results of the 1837 general election, returned former Prime Miniser, Robert Peel and the Conservatives, back into power, with the Viscount Melbourne, losing the election and resigning as leader of the Party.

The Peelite majority government, was a strong one, with Charles Grant, 1st Baron Glenelg, a former Tory and first Indian-born leader of a major British political party.
Serving from 19th August 1837 to 9th June 1846, Robert Peel's second tenure gave him an overall nearly 9 years would see his reforms of local government, and the reform of the Poor laws as well as the Mines and Collieries Act 1842, the Income Tax Act 1842, the Factories Act 1844 and the Railway Regulation Act 1844.

Queen Elizabeth, became close friends, with her head chamber maid, Elizabeth Wellesley, Duchess of Wellington, daughter-in-law of Arthur Wellesley.

On 10th December 1839, Queen Eliabeth turned 18 and on Thursday 2nd January 1840, had her coronation and was officially crowned as Queen Elizabeth II, By the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland Queen, Defender of the Faith, Queen of of Hanover, Duchess of Brunswick, alongside he husband King George V of Hanover and Prince Consort.
 
Chambermaid is pretty low ranking for a duchess. Mistress of the Robes would be more appropriate. Funnily enough, when the Queen of England was a Queen Regnant rather than a Queen Consort, it tended to be a political appointment and changed with the governments in power. This actually caused a fiasco early on IOTL Victoria's reign: Bedchamber Crisis.
 
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