Quebec Votes Oui - Oct. 1995

October 31, 1995.

All over Canada, people wake up to find that, after a night of ballot counting, the province of Quebec has voted 50.6% to 49.4% in favor of seceding from Canada. In the weeks before, federal prime minister Jean Chrétien warned that the government would not recognize the legitimacy of a narrow “Oui” majority. But, now Chrétien is faced with that very same narrow “Oui” majority.


So, the question is, what happens next?

- Does Quebec secede?
- How does Canada react?
- Is there a civil war? (If so, who wins?)
- Does Canada break apart?
- What effect does this have on the United States? Great Britain? France?
- What does this effect on the world stage?
- What have the last ten years looked like?​
 
Both the Statehood Parties [Ontario-Alberta] and the Dollarazation [US] Groups get a big boost.

{Us Manifest Destiny types have been denied to long}
 

Valamyr

Banned
Well, Chrétien had prepared a speech in case of defeat in which he said the vote was legally merely consultative, and the margin of victory too narrow to be recognized. Civil war is a non issue, though, quite obviously, this just isnt the canadian mindset at all. But you would see attempts by Ottawa to deny the results of the vote.

Quebec is however well prepared. France will recognize Quebec's independence within hours, if not minutes, of the official announcement. Billions of Quebec`s dollars are available at the Premier's order to prevent any faltering of the currency. Of course, Quebec's Office of Foreign relations assumes the mantle of Foreign Ministry immediately. The delegate to the United Nations is already chosen, and present at the UN's seat to announce the entrance of Quebec in the community of nations. The Republic's transitionary commitee has a well prepared agenda of negociations, to debate points like the share of the federal debt that belongs to Quebec (Between 21,4 and 23.7%, depending if you base yourself on population, or GNP percentile), economic arrangements if any (Though Ottawa would like to say no, a million jobs just in ontario depend on Quebec. You cant exactly just severe those kind of ties just like that), and the various other things.

These things above are all based on OTL's plans on both sides for the transition. Canada would try to stall and reject points, arguing based on the constitution (Though Quebec never signed it). They would even probably suggest that the regions who primarly voted no be given a choice to remain Canadian, but this would never happen without military agression, because the boundaries of the provinces are well determined, and of course, these very regions were part of the "no" voters in the first place. Quebec has however the big ace in its sleeve, the fact that it democratically chose to secede and succeded despite all attempts to sink the boat. Most nations of the western world would therefore have no choice but to accept that. Some eagerly, some based on self-interests, others because there are few other options.

The somewhat volatile character of the prime minister of Quebec is to be taken into account at this point. He swore many times privately, and publicly later on, that he would have proclaimed independence unilaterally if negociations did not give satisfying results between 24 and 72 hours following the end of the polls, and I am certain he would be true to his word. Canada would take offense at that action, for sure, and would threaten economic sanctions, but the act would be done. Europeans would be the firsts to recognize Quebec. This is where it gets interesting.

There were three copies of the French plans for recognition of Quebec. The first, the best case scenario, was a plain recognition, offering friendship, trade and political assistance to the new kin-country on the other side of the atlantic. The second, in the scenario where Ottawa pushed hard for partitions of english areas, included a guarantee of teritorial integrity and inviolability and a promise of assistance against attempts to break this integrity. The last, the worse case scenario, in the strange event where hotheads would prevail to the point where some people wished military action to prevent secession - offered simultanously an immediate guarantee of independence, asked formally the UN to condemn any attempt at violating the soil of the Quebec, and offered to dispatch immediately French military units to assist the fledging army of the native republic.

Now, these were contingency plans and its unlikely the third scenario could ever happen, but i was mentioning anyway. It does show that Chirac's commitment to the new republic was quite strong. The disclosure of these plans afterwards substantially cooled relations between France and Canada afterwards in OTL, up to until 1999 or so.

So, assuming things go the average way, negociations makes slow progress, Quebec declares independence, Canada refuses to recognize it right away, but most of the rest of the world does, the US stays more quiet for a few days, Quebec says a flat no to any partition plans, France backs it to the hilt, trade is disturbed for several days, Ottawa begins to speak about keeping the rest of the country together, and when it becomes obvious that this is a fait-accompli, the USA recognizes the republic. Ottawa then tries to object to Quebec's joining of NAFTA and other organizations they feel entitled to participate in, and set up tariffs on areas that favors them.

The next few months are of course more politically active than usual in Quebec. The Prime Minister becomes the first President of the Republic and the foreign ministry works on all levels to break diplomatic isolation and resume trade to pre-independence levels, mainly through joining NAFTA. The first North american breakthrough is obtained two weeks later when the USA considers all economic treaties in existance with Canada now applies to Quebec as well, until further notice, aside from the thorny issue of the NAFTA seat.

In Canada, several parties believe that Quebec's secession invalidate altogether the Confederation of 1867 and that another union must be formed. Ottawa strongly objects this point of view, and is struggling on all sides to keep the country in one bloc. Economically, pressure mounts rapidly in Ontario and the Maritimes where tariffs imposed on and by Quebec are hurting the economy seriously. Negociations starts again behind the seat, on the basis of the fait-accompli.

In Quebec, though there is atfirst a small wave of initial emigration of english citizens, and some concerns amongst the first nations (the natives), the situation on that level returns to calm shortly after. Buisnesses and banks, obviously, stay where they are. There is a myth that many would like to leave an independent Quebec, but its a mystery why money-making oriented buisnesses who find Quebec quite profitable, would wish to leave it... while they are busily spending capital to establish themselves in Saudi Arabia, Eastern Europe and China in the meantime.

It takes almost three years for the situation to stabilize fully everywhere. Though it has to make many concessions, Ottawa manages for a time to keep the rest of country together. By 1997, Quebec's independence is fully recognized, and their place in the various political and economic structures are secured. Quebec - more leftist and pacific than most of Canada - choose to stay out of NATO and establish in its constitution provisions akin to those found in Switzerland's. Armed forces are minimal and purely defensive, and any legislation related to war issues requires the unanimity of the National Assembly, and the President's veto.

Quebec also demonstrates its ability to adminster its country quite well, scoring a series of easily balanced budgets, thanks to the taxes reapatriated from Ottawa. Trade bilans are excellent, and social structures prooves to work quite well. Of course, for the average citizen, after the big thrill of the first "free" year, its back to buisness as usual both in Quebec and Canada. There are frankly few other plausible outcomes aside from this.

As for the changes upon the world? Well Quebec never wished to have a crucial impact in world affairs. Though culturally and economically quite open, the nation would most likely remain focused quite inwards politically, and the relief of the Quebec-Ottawa bickering would be very welcome. Life in the US, Europe, or in England, would be for all practical purposes, unchanged.

Later on, Quebec would generally take a European stance on US foreign policy following 9-11. Careful support for the war in afganhisthan (though its fully out of question to dispatch any troops or assistance there), and a firmly opposed stance (akin to France's) against the Iraqi aventure.

In internal policy, the Parti Québécois would probably not last too long, having accomplished the goal that kept it together. The Liberal party would also not last in its current shape, too closely kept together and funded by English canada. Possibly an ADQ takeover in the 2003 elections. Its as much as a center-party Quebec can possibly accept, and they would probably be a bit more mellow in their critics of the campaign of Iraq.

Opinion polls in 2004 shows the western provinces have support rates up to 44% for independence, and 31% of Saskatchewan declares it would not be opposed to joining the USA.
 

Dunash

Banned
In the film "Canadian Bacon"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109370/
the US concocts a war with Canada claiming that the Canucks are trying to close the St Lawrence seaway to the Great Lakes. WI the Quebecois got militant & tried like Nasser did to the Suez, to exert their power, & even threaten to close the seaway unless they got more $? Could we see the US 82nd & British 1st Airborne floating down on the Plains of Jacob?
 
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A few thoughts

Walter_Kaufmann said:
October 31, 1995.

All over Canada, people wake up to find that, after a night of ballot counting, the province of Quebec has voted 50.6% to 49.4% in favor of seceding from Canada. In the weeks before, federal prime minister Jean Chrétien warned that the government would not recognize the legitimacy of a narrow “Oui” majority. But, now Chrétien is faced with that very same narrow “Oui” majority.


So, the question is, what happens next?

- Does Quebec secede?
- How does Canada react?
- Is there a civil war? (If so, who wins?)
- Does Canada break apart?
- What effect does this have on the United States? Great Britain? France?
- What does this effect on the world stage?
- What have the last ten years looked like?​
I've always felt that Canada would brake apart if quebec left. It would be terriable for us here in Altantic Canada, we would be cut off.
Not only that, if Quebec left in 1995, the odds are the liberals would lose the next federal election. And Reform would win. Preston Manning, Prime minister of what's left of canada. burr. Their pro west anti everyone else pollyices would proabley encourge other provinces to leave.
That my two cents.
 
One word would settle this issue: UNGAVA.

This is the region formerly held by Hudson's Bay Company and only broken into Quebec(and Ontario) in 1912. It holds 60% of Quebec's territory, it holds the facilities for Quebec Hydroelectric, the only asset that gives Quebec a chance at independence, and it was part of Canada long before Quebec was allowed to hold part of it for convenience's sake.

Canada announces that this portion of Quebec, inhabited solely by Native Americans and English-speakers(ie anti-Quebec) will remain in Canada regardless of any vote, and deploys troops to hold portions of it.

If anything happens to the facilities, Quebec will see over a fifth of it's total stocks and other financial assets rendered worthless instantly. The costs of building it, however, remain to be paid off.

Quebec is banned from NAFTA, of course. Other economic agreements also see exclusion. Mexico sees nothing to gain by favoring Quebec over Canada while the US has actual financial benefits from excluding Quebec. Needless to say, all moves in favor of Quebec must take into account Canadian hostility. Canada, by the way, DOES have the power to veto Quebec's entry into NAFTA.

Canada will also ban all of the goods(wood, dairy, etc) allowed from Quebec under favorable terms, while Montreal finally learns the hard way that Quebec province receives more in federal taxes than it pays out, either in terms of GDP or population. Services are cut while dairy and lumber industries collapse. Healthcare continues to decline while Quebec finds it harder to acquire medical personnel overseas with the new 'French only' laws(an large percentage of Canadian medical professionals come from India).

Currency problems arise as Canada cuts off Quebec's supply of Canadian currency, forcing the hasty deployment of a Quebec currency. Unfortunately, during the disputes over all matter of important matters, especially financial, this currency will likely sink compared to Canada's. Given the size of Quebec's provincial debt, the addition of any reasonable share of Canada's debt COMBINED with cuts in services can not help but damage the new currency.

Most of the industries in Quebec and Montreal must leave, as no company can call itself 'Canadian' while the headquarters is in a foreign nation. As Canada certainly takes measures, this will cost Quebec tens of thousands of jobs and billions in money and taxes. French language goods quickly become unwelcome in Canada, assuming any are allowed. There is, after all, nothing from Quebec that Canada can't get itself, or from the US.

The Anglophones may depart en masse, leaving a province with a poor birthrate and a sudden surplus of homes and businesses(thereby destroying property values), or they may stay and resist through demonstrations and economic unity at the exclusion of the rest. The Native Americans will almost certainly announce that their territories remain part of Canada and violence is likely to erupt here first.

Once violence does erupt, or if France attempts to intervene, the US acts. Negotiations as to whether Quebec remains or leaves will take place while an American-dominant peace keeping force occupies Quebec. France will NOT be allowed to send forces.

Ironically, the 'common foe' presented by the US may actually calm things down, with Quebec and Canada both wondering what the final results may be if things sink too low with US waiting as an alternative. Alternately, if the US backs Canada hard, they may well prevail and the vote be taken as a call for independence not to be given.

If Canada does break in two, it is likely that US may absorb Canada, bearing in mind that all but three of Canada's English speaking provinces require far more federal aid than they generate. In particular. the US may think twice about the Maritime provinces as several English speaking Puerto Ricos. The affect on American politics once the US has acquired Canada, whose voters are somewhat to the left of the average American remains an exercise for the imagination.

Quebec enjoys its independence and becomes both poorer and then more leftist, undoubtedly blaming mysterious Canadian(later American) plots for the economic decline. But with the breakdown in trade with the rest of Canada, along with American growing dislike(after we absorb over 20 million Canadians), combined with poor services, declining revenue, and serious population decline, the true cause is clear to others.

As for an even bigger, richer, and smug USA, with a likely collapse in relations with France if we manhandle Quebec too hard, along with a general feeling of smugness towards French-speaking(and ALL non-English speaking implied) governments, the US is even more isolationist and less interested in foreign affairs, let alone foreign opinions.
 

Valamyr

Banned
Uh, Ungava is part of Quebec. Theres no way in hell Canada could send troops into Quebec's territory and try to claim it for any reason whatsoever. There would be french nukes falling on Toronto before such a state of affairs was allowed to be made permanant.

Not to mention that anyway, Quebec would be largely viable without even its hydroelectricity. But theres no way that any power would stand for such a blatant agression and theft of territory.

Not to mention even the most extreme plans of Ottawa made no mention of that, nor of the will to use troops. They were smart enough to see that they were in no position whatsoever to use that argument. Economic pressure would already be more acceptable in the world's eyes.

In addition, Id like to point out that while the US would probably remain quietly neutral as long as things stayed bloodless, if Canadian troops crossed the border, its most likely on Quebec's side that theyd need to act, as there is really no way to support a blatant agression. While peacekeeping troops are not out of the question, violating the territorial integrity of the new republic certainly would be for all parties concerned.
 
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Xen

Banned
I imagine thered be some hostilities but I think they can work things out diplomatically. Ungava could remain in Canada, but the southern French Part will go its own way, eventually joining the UN, NAFTA and NATO. It would be poor form for Canada and the other western democracies from treating Quebec like crap over a democratically held election. Thats a way to make permanent enemies, and its not like French Canadians havent ever had a terrorist streak before. They could quickly become to Canada and possibly the US what the ETA is to Spain.
 
Guys, trust me, this break up means the long-term end of Canada. Not as we know it, but simply the long slow merger into the US. Canada will not be acting pleasantly and reasonably, and Ungava would be the easiest target.

Uh, Val, any idea how much of Quebec's income comes from Quebec HydroElectric sales to the US? A very large percentage. Any threat to it is certain to get the US deeply involved with amazing speed.

As for democratic votes, the US has a very clear position on secession, and it's not a friendly one. In Canada's position, this means a tiny margin in a single province means dismemberment and possible death of the nation.

If one American state voted by a slim margin, ignoring turnout and such issues, to secede, how well would it go?

Seriously, if Canada announces it won't allow secession and is forming an army of Anglophones and Natives to challenge the Allophones, the French will be nearly outnumbered just within the province, given a margin of 51 or 52 percent.
 
"Seriously, if Canada announces it won't allow secession and is forming an army of Anglophones and Natives to challenge the Allophones, the French will be nearly outnumbered just within the province, given a margin of 51 or 52 percent."

Yes, but in that case, the French will move (see the Worst-Case Scenario). The French have nukes and Canada does not. Can the Canadian Federals occupy ALL of Quebec before French units begin arriving? Are the French willing to go all the way with their "force of last resort" over Quebec?

Also, in a thread on the old board about a 1990s "militia revolt," the Quebec secession came up. Supposedly there are a lot of French-ethnic people in the northern US along the Canadian border. Owing to the US's more liberal (free, not politically leftist) gun laws, they might start smuggling weaponry to the "kinfolks" in Quebec. This could have political repercussions...a lot of Americans are siding with Quebec (and they vote and can hold press conferences), there might be border incursions from the Canadian army, etc.

If the US intervenes, whose side will it be on (esp. if the French are arriving)?
 

Valamyr

Banned
I'm not sure where all these misconceptions came from, but really guys, theres not much Canada can do once Quebec votes yes, even by one vote. The US position on secession *within its own country* is not pleasant, but it was perfectly neutral in 1995. If there was miltiary action by either side, though, the US would immediately side against the agressor.

As for HydroQuebec's exports, uh, Hydro has a whole brings in only about two billion per year, less than half of that can be creditted to exports. Hydro's main usefulness is to provide cheap electricity to the residents. This being said, Ungava IS a french speaking territory, and it IS part of Quebec and would remain so.

"If one American state voted by a slim margin, ignoring turnout and such issues, to secede, how well would it go?"

Aside from the fact the turnout in Quebec was above 95%, to answer your question, it would NOT work in the US. Im well aware of that. The situation of Quebec is very different. It IS a distinct nation with culture and all.

"Seriously, if Canada announces it won't allow secession and is forming an army of Anglophones and Natives to challenge the Allophones, the French will be nearly outnumbered just within the province, given a margin of 51 or 52 percent."

Quebec's french population still is 81.5% of the province's, and the natives are not that opposed to sessession, as long as their rights are guaranteed. In fact, they massively supported the independence party last elections. If Canada is forming an army, anyhow, the US and France will simultanously condemn the act, and France will send its forces immediately to protect the republic.

And if a US unit or more moved in this scenario, it would certainly not be against Quebec. I realize English canada must have its own views on these matters to feel more secure about their nation's integrity, but truth is nowadays, any canadian province could leave the confederation without much difficulty, as long as it was done democratically. Ottawa could do little more than protest and try to impose temporary economic pressures.

In OTL, at this pace, it might not be Quebec first. But I'm certain that within our lifetimes, we'll see sucessful sessessions. Who knows, maybe Alberta will be first.
 
one assumption in scenarios like this is that parts of Canada, if not everything other than Quebec, would eventually become part of the US. Yet, most of the Canadians on this board seem to regard this possibility with as much joy as they would being castrated without anesthesia. Without Quebec, wouldn't the rest of Canada be economically feasible? Does Canada absolutely have to have Quebec to be solvent?
 

Valamyr

Banned
Nah, Canada can be just fine without us. Several provinces in the west would actually be better off in their own than with Canada, as is the case with Quebec, economically. The maritimes and Ontario would be the big losers, as they are the ones who beneficies the most from the current union.

The whole "the US would absorb all" is an overrated fear IMO. It would only happen to provinces who actually desired that... maybe the maritimes and BC.
 
" parts of Canada, if not everything other than Quebec, would eventually become part of the US. Yet, most of the Canadians on this board seem to regard this possibility with as much joy as they would being castrated without anesthesia."

Heh, heh, heh.
 
Matt, trust me. The US will not allow French intervention and at the first HINT of French nukes the US might well respond with something ugly, ranging from all Allophones being shipped to France to actual preemption of the French nukes.

As for arms smuggling, given the future potential with Mexico in the SW, the US will seal the border on Canada's behalf.

If Alberta and BC join the US, Canada is either Greater Ontario or on the slow track to absorption. Perhaps when Ottawa realizes that joining en masse could actually shift the US into a Democratic-majority nation...(evil laughter in background).

As for Ungava, so what if Canada announces it WILL accept Quebec independence, subject to negotiation AND a partition of Ungava? Since they are willing to concede the big issue in advance, AND since Canada's claim to Ungava is better than Quebec's, what happens if Ottawa makes the case that Ungava only would stay in Quebec as long as Quebec stayed in Canada? After all, had Ottawa thought otherwise, Quebec would never have been assigned the land, as it had been Canadian since there was a Canada.

OK, so we have a real thread now, what if Quebec independence led to a war between the US and France? Anyone?
 

Valamyr

Banned
Grimm, youre deep in ASB territory with that lol.

I wonder on what basis you think Canada has any claim whatsoever to Ungava too? Its as part of Quebec as Quebec city itself.

The land NEVER belonged to Canada; it belonged to the Hudson Bay company. When it was dissolved, Canada got that land from Britain, half to Ontario, half to Quebec.

Quebec has a claim that is just as valid on northern Ontario than the other way around if we follow that logic. And the company's land was brought btw, by all interested parties.

If theres any disputed territory in the north of Quebec, it would be Labrador, not Ungava.
 
Hi all!

It's nice to be back after a rather long-ish cybernation; I like the look of the new board.

My caffeine-addled brain says the following:

1) Any talk of French or American nukes, or a Franco-American war, under any circumstances, tells me that someone has been hitting the Labatt's/Moosehead/Molsen Golden (I prefer the latter!) a wee bit overmuch.

2) Native groups ("First Nations") in northern Quebec have made it clear that if Quebec seceeded from Canada, they would, in turn, not recognize any secession & either seceede from Quebec in turn or declare that they are remaining in Canada (sort of like what Jones County Mississippi did during the US Civil War). The Native groups would certainly use what force they could & would put the Francophone government in Quebec City in a real quandary.

3) The Maritime provinces would be up doody creek if Quebec seceeded & might be prompted to reorganize into x-number of states and seek admission into the USA.

4) Ontario & points west could survive as a shrunken, reorganized Canada. However, once the secession cat is let out of the bag, BC & Alberta might be inclined to go it alone together. Any number of provinces might apply to join the US.

Be well!

ssv
 
Hmmm....you know, its rather funny that someone from Quebec claims Ungava is French speaking when practically everyone else (Canadians included) and numerous geographical magazines, books, etc. consider the area to be populated by Native Americans (First Nations) rather like the people of Nunavut and the Northwest Territories. The Native Americans there may be able to speak French, but that certainly doesn't mean French is their first or only language and that they would wish to remain in an independent Quebec. I have never seen anything to contradict the postulation by fellow members that the native "Ungavans" made their intentions clear to remain in Canada or go independent themselves. In fact I am almost sure that a National Geographic magazine article on Quebec said the same thing.


Also, why does everyone feel the maritimes would go to the USA because they are now physically separated from Canada? Where is the evidence and logic behind that? Why can't Canada have exclaves like the US does in the form of Alaska, Puerto Rico, American Samoa and so on. These areas and Hawaii, Guam and the Northern Marianas are not directly attached to the contiguous 48 states of the USA, but still desire to remain in the USA (although there are independence movements in most of them, even Alaska- but these movements are small). By the logic assuming that the maritimes will go to the USA, then Alaska should have joined Canada from at least 1870, Guam and N. Marianas should have gone to the Philippines, Marshall Islands, Palau or Japan from 1955, Hawaii should have gone independent in 1900 and Puerto Rico should have gone independent or joined the Dominican Republic or Cuba. All of those ideas are rather ludicrous, as is the idea of the maritimes saying "oh my! whatever shall we do? cut off in this cold lonely world of satellites, radioes, air transport (some of it cheap), modern and fast ocean transport which means direct connection to the rest of a territory is no longer required as it was in before 1000AD (and only before then)" and join the USA.
 
Hi all!

Sean Swaby, you posted:

Also, why does everyone feel the maritimes would go to the USA because they are now physically separated from Canada? Where is the evidence and logic behind that? Why can't Canada have exclaves...

Good point.

But, the Maritimes would be separated from the rest of Canada by an unfriendly, possibly hostile, probably unstable, Francophone Quebec. I can't imagine Quebec City exactly bursting with eagerness to be helpful in helping the Maritimes maintain their links with Ontario/the rest of Canada. East and West Pakistan, with India in between, didn't exactly work.

The Maritimes would also have the (lest we forget) enclave of St. Pierre and Miquelon in their midst; who knows what would role it might play given an independent Quebec.

Be well!

ssv
 
But, the Maritimes would be separated from the rest of Canada by an unfriendly, possibly hostile, probably unstable, Francophone Quebec. I can't imagine Quebec City exactly bursting with eagerness to be helpful in helping the Maritimes maintain their links with Ontario/the rest of Canada. East and West Pakistan, with India in between, didn't exactly work.

You make a good point too, except considering that Quebec cannot be compared to India. Whereas India was far stronger than Pakistan and could help determine the fate of East Pakistan (Bangladesh) in becoming indepedent, the inverse is true for a Canada-Quebec situation. No matter how dreamy eyed the PQ may be or how grand its visions, Canada would be stronger than Quebec and in this case Americans (despite the musings of others) will probably feel more sympathetic to the English speaking Canadians than to the French speaking Quebecois and Canada could just as easily link with its maritime provinces via the free trade and travel through the USA if Quebec was being uncooperative. At any rate if Quebec gave Canada any merde, I would imagine that Canada would be more than willing to hit back and hit back hard (and Canada, in comparison to Quebec and with the sympathies of the UK, Commonwealth and USA could). Quebec's best friend would be France, but I doubt the USA will be willing to have France come intervene in the Americas (Monroe doctrine and all that and the fact that this lead to American intervention in the Caribbean to prevent German intervention).

Also, several countries have (or had) successful exclaves: The USA, UK (Northern Ireland being almost one, Gibraltar, all her present day dependencies which now have UK citizenship), France, Russia, South Africa (gave up Walvis Bay voluntarily)...
East Pakistan's independence would have been doubtful without Indian intervention and for the reasons outline above, this situation is not comparable.
Should Palestine finally achieve independence from Israel, it would have an exclave in the Gaza Strip. I rather doubt the Gaza Strip will want to join Israel (as it would following the weird logic being imposed on the maritimes situation) or Egypt (too proud being Palestinian), similarly I think the Canadian citizens in the maritimes have just a bit more pride in themselves as Canadians than people seem to give them credit for (and while 34% in some western province would not be opposed to joining the USA, that is still a rather modest minority. Had it been 49% then maybe we could question Canadian pride, but rounding off the percentage we see that only 1/3rd of those people would be unopposed to joining the USA leaving 2/3rds who would be.)
 
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